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Sosthenes

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#1 Feb 7, 2013

Sosthenes

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#2 Feb 7, 2013
William

Talladega, AL

#3 Feb 7, 2013
Looks like ol' Norm is "ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
William

Talladega, AL

#4 Feb 7, 2013
Why, oh why, does the CoC use the hellish NKJV? They used to use the KJV exclusively not that many years ago.

Why did they ditch The Bible for this imposter?
William

Birmingham, AL

#5 Feb 7, 2013
William

Birmingham, AL

#6 Feb 7, 2013
Look closely at those two verses compared side by side between the KJV and the NKJV.

Notice anything different in them?

Sosthenes

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#7 Feb 9, 2013
I do not think many will give you the time of day since you teach the Jews are taught one gospel and the Gentiles are taught different gospel.

That is what I notice DIFFERENT.


How can people teach two differing gospels yet teach the very same thing. It cannot be done.

16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.(Phil. 3:16)

10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.(1Cor.1:10)

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.(Acts 17:11)


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William

Birmingham, AL

#8 Feb 9, 2013
"I do not think many will give you the time of day since you teach the Jews are taught one gospel and the Gentiles are taught different gospel."

You haven't heard a thing that I have said so I will summarize it briefly regarding "two gospels".

Today, and ever since Paul was given the gospel of the grace of God, there is ONE GOSPEL. For Jew and Gentile alike. Now if you want someone who preaches TWO gospels for today you can go and listen to that idiot (from Texas) named John Hagee, who believes that a Jew, today, doesn't even need the gospel of Jesus Christ.

HOWEVER, when Paul and Peter were both alive and preaching, there WERE two gospels being preached. Peter preached the gospel OF the circumcision and he, James, and John confined their ministry to believing Israel. They DID NOT go unto all the world, Paul did. Paul is THE apostle to the Gentiles and he also preached the gospel (of Jesus Christ) to "Jews and kings of the earth" as well. If you owned a KJV and not the NKJV you would see in Galatians 2 who agreed to preach to what group of people.

The gospel today, for everybody, is the gospel of Jesus Christ. What is that gospel?

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Paul calls it "MY gospel."
Paul Taught Jews

Greenville, TX

#9 Feb 13, 2013
Allow the word of God to tell us about the gospel which saves.

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved (Mark 16:15,16).

Go ye into all the world

preach the gospel

to every creature (Both Jew / Gentile).

He that believeth and is baptized

shall be saved (Mark 16:15,16).

The gospel found in (Mark 16:15,16) is for all people (every creature) in all the world.

It is amazing what people will do to teach a faith "alone" salvation plan.

All one need to do is read (James 2;24) to learn the truth.

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

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William

Birmingham, AL

#10 Feb 13, 2013
My Bible says that I am justified by what Christ did FOR ME:

Galatians 2:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith OF Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith OF Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

How do I know that?

Because I believe and trust what Christ did FOR ME at Calvary.

But if you are claiming to be one of those people in James 1:1 (i.e., the believing Jews scattered abroad after the death of Stephen) then what "works" are you to be doing? Spell them out.
Sosthenes

Greenville, TX

#11 Feb 13, 2013
William wrote:
My Bible says that I am justified by what Christ did FOR ME:
Galatians 2:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith OF Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith OF Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
How do I know that?
Because I believe and trust what Christ did FOR ME at Calvary.
But if you are claiming to be one of those people in James 1:1 (i.e., the believing Jews scattered abroad after the death of Stephen) then what "works" are you to be doing? Spell them out.
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)(Eph. 3:3,4)

17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.(Eph. 5:17)

...learn in us not to think of men above that which is written...(1Cor.4:6)


18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.(Rev. 22:18,19)

2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.(Deut.4:2)

There are two covenants.

The Old Testament and The New Testament.

A Covenant can be nullified by leaving out or adding to any part of the Will or Covenant.

The book of James is a part of the NT Will of God.

For any person living today to reject the book of James (or any other NT Book) is to nullify the coverage (spiritual blessings) found within the New Covenant Law of Christ (James 1:25)(Eph. 1:3).

25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

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Sosthenes

Greenville, TX

#12 Feb 13, 2013
William wrote:
My Bible says that I am justified by what Christ did FOR ME:
Galatians 2:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith OF Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith OF Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
How do I know that?
Because I believe and trust what Christ did FOR ME at Calvary.
But if you are claiming to be one of those people in James 1:1 (i.e., the believing Jews scattered abroad after the death of Stephen) then what "works" are you to be doing? Spell them out.
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; (Titus 2:11,12)

Grace has appeared to ALL MEN.

But all men will not be saved.

WHY?

Some men will not avoid (or deny) those things the word of God says to avoid (deny).

Some men will not do those things which (Titus 2:12) says to do to be saved.

That is the simple answer to why "all" men will not be saved.

It ends up being mans own decision which keeps him from heaven



*Some things are to be avoided - "ungodliness and worldly lusts,".

*Some things must be done - "we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;" (Titus 2:11,12)

It is very clear that man must do some things or he will not be saved by the grace of God.(Heb. 5:9)(Acts 10:34,35)(Jas.2:24)

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)(Eph. 3:3,4)

17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.(Eph. 5:17)

17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God,...(Jn 7:17)

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.(Acts 17:11)

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.(Jn 5:39)

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world....6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.(1Jn 4:1-6)

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Sosthenes

Greenville, TX

#13 Feb 13, 2013
If I wanted to sit on just one verse like some men do, I would choose (Rom. 5:9).

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Believeing this one verse without learning what man must do to be saved will not save me regardless of how much I believe it.

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The Only Church

Greenville, TX

#14 Mar 1, 2013
How do people come up with 1000s of churches and not a one can be found in the bible?

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Sosthenes

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#15 Mar 3, 2013


Why all the churches?

29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.(Acts 20:29)

...to draw away disciples after them.(Acts 20:29)

...to draw away disciples after them.(Acts 20:29)

...to draw away disciples after them.(Acts 20:29)

People are looking for a following.

They thrive on power and control.

They couldn't care less about your soul.

They just want your money.

They ask you to send them the money so you can get a blessing from God. Tell them to send you money and let them get the blessing from God.

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Sosthenes

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#16 Mar 3, 2013
William wrote:
My Bible says that I am justified by what Christ did FOR ME:
Galatians 2:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith OF Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith OF Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
How do I know that?
Because I believe and trust what Christ did FOR ME at Calvary.
But if you are claiming to be one of those people in James 1:1 (i.e., the believing Jews scattered abroad after the death of Stephen) then what "works" are you to be doing? Spell them out.
You believe in works also for belief is a work according to (Jn 6:29).

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Then of course you will say one must confess Jesus is the son of God according to (Rom. 10:9,10).

Then you will say one must repent according to (Luke 13:3).

All of the above are works men do. Which btw man cannot be saved without doing.

Would you agree?

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William

Birmingham, AL

#17 Mar 4, 2013
"...NOT of works, lest any should boast."

That's what it says to those Ephesian gentiles who were not allied with Israel in any way, shape, or form.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are written to, for, and about Israel.

Matthew 10:5-7
Mathew 15:24

Who was Christ sent to preach to during his earthly ministry? You'll find it there.

Who did Christ send to preach to you and me?

Paul.

Sosthenes

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#18 Mar 15, 2013
William wrote:
"...NOT of works, lest any should boast."
That's what it says to those Ephesian gentiles who were not allied with Israel in any way, shape, or form.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are written to, for, and about Israel.
Matthew 10:5-7
Mathew 15:24
Who was Christ sent to preach to during his earthly ministry? You'll find it there.
Who did Christ send to preach to you and me?
Paul.
The epistles are telling those who are already in Christ (Christians) how to live for Christ.

You do not go to (Eph.2:8,9) to learn how to become a Christian.

They were already Christians, living in Ephesus.

If you want to know where they were converted to Christ look to (Acts 19:1-6). There you will learn the Ephesians were baptized twice (in water).

Folks that does not sound like being saved by faith "alone" or grace "alone".

Those who teach this false doctrine are teaching a "dead faith" will save.

Notice what the word of God says -

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.(James 2:17)

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?(James 2:20)

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(James 2:24)

How many times must the Lord say something before we get it?

If you do not think people who teach belief "alone" teach a works salvation just read (Jn 6:29).

It teaches belief is a work.

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

It (belief) is something man does towards salvation.

Not only that but (Rom. 10:9,10) teaches man must "CONFESS" to be saved.

CONFESSION is something man must "DO".

See the action man must "do" in this section of scripture?

Yall are teaching a works salvation just like all the rest but you refuse to acknowledge it.

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William

Birmingham, AL

#19 Mar 16, 2013
"If you want to know where they were converted to Christ look to (Acts 19:1-6). There you will learn the Ephesians were baptized twice (in water)."

Those 12 certain disciples were Jews, not gentiles. The Ephesian letter was written to idol-worshipping gentiles who had nothing to do with Judaism, Israel, or God. Water baptism was no more part of what they heard, believed, and trusted any more than it was for these gentiles to have had Paul lay his hands on them to receive the Holy Spirit like he did for those 12 in Acts 19.

Rightly divide the word of truth.
William

Birmingham, AL

#20 Mar 16, 2013
John 1:31 (KJV)

31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

John the Baptist baptized Jews. Not gentiles.

Acts 19:3-4 (KJV)

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

But then we see:

Ephesians 2:11-12 (KJV)

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world.

There is more than one group of people in the Bible, and there is more than one type of gentile. The gentiles that Paul wrote his letter to are not even the same gentile as people like Cornelius, or the woman at the well, or the woman with the daughter vexed with a devil.

Rightly DIVIDE the word of truth.

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