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The Baptist Church "From Heaven or of Men"

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Dr John

Celina, TX

#1 Oct 22, 2008

The Baptist Church "From Heaven or of Men"

http://www.gospelpreceptor.com/Ruffner6.htm


Six bible lessons. Enjoy!

http://www.searchingfortruth.org/

in love - Dr John
Dr John

Bonham, TX

#2 Dec 29, 2008
The lesson can be found below.

http://www.the-church-at-hatton.org/gospelpre...
Jerry

Pottsboro, TX

#3 Feb 16, 2009
Dr. John,
I have been reading some of the stuff you misquote from the Scriptures and I do pray God will forgive you. However, my prayers will not help you when you come to HIS judgement, only your prayers, for that forgivenes for yourself, will he hear.
Please read Rev. 22:18-21 and ask HIS forgiveness and stop altering HIS word.
In JESUS' Name,
JC
JB Good

Bonham, TX

#4 Feb 16, 2009
Roman Catholic - Boniface III - Rome - 606

Lutheran - Martin Luther - Germany - 1520

Episcopalian - Henry VIII - England -1534

Presbyterian - John Calvin - Switzerland -1536

Congregational - Robert Browne - England - 1550

Baptist - John Smythe - Holland -1607

Methodist - John Wesley - England - 1739

Latter Day Saints (Mormons)- Joseph Smith - America - 1830

Adventists - William Miller - America - 1830

Christian Scientist - Mary Baker Eddy - America - 1866

Jehovah's Witnesses - Charles T. Russell - America - 1872

None of the above denominations fit bible prophecy scriptures for the true church of Christ.

They are all wrong when it comes to the right time,place and who began the true church of Christ.

1. Its beginning -(Isa.2:3)(Joel 2:28)(Luke 24:49)(Acts 1:5,8).

2. The person who built the church (Mt.16:18,19)(Acts 20;28)

3. Where the church was to begin (Isa.2:1-5)(Zech.13:1,2)(Luke 24:49)(Acts 1:5,8)(Acts 2).

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JB Good

Bonham, TX

#5 Feb 16, 2009
Jerry wrote:
Dr. John,
I have been reading some of the stuff you misquote from the Scriptures and I do pray God will forgive you. However, my prayers will not help you when you come to HIS judgement, only your prayers, for that forgivenes for yourself, will he hear.
Please read Rev. 22:18-21 and ask HIS forgiveness and stop altering HIS word.
In JESUS' Name,
JC
Hello Jerry, thanks for your concern.

Care to show me how I altered the word of God?



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Justified

Dallas, TX

#6 Feb 17, 2009
JB Good wrote:
Roman Catholic - Boniface III - Rome - 606
Lutheran - Martin Luther - Germany - 1520
Episcopalian - Henry VIII - England -1534
Presbyterian - John Calvin - Switzerland -1536
Congregational - Robert Browne - England - 1550
Baptist - John Smythe - Holland -1607
Methodist - John Wesley - England - 1739
Latter Day Saints (Mormons)- Joseph Smith - America - 1830
Adventists - William Miller - America - 1830
Christian Scientist - Mary Baker Eddy - America - 1866
Jehovah's Witnesses - Charles T. Russell - America - 1872
None of the above denominations fit bible prophecy scriptures for the true church of Christ.
They are all wrong when it comes to the right time,place and who began the true church of Christ.
1. Its beginning -(Isa.2:3)(Joel 2:28)(Luke 24:49)(Acts 1:5,8).
2. The person who built the church (Mt.16:18,19)(Acts 20;28)
3. Where the church was to begin (Isa.2:1-5)(Zech.13:1,2)(Luke 24:49)(Acts 1:5,8)(Acts 2).
emorychristians.org
Where was the church of Christ during the years from the first century until Alexander Campbell came along in the 18oo's??

Do you have some documented evidence of a churh of Christ during those years. Please do not send me that hocus pocus stuff from England unless it has good documentation like the Orthodox or catholic church.
Justified

Dallas, TX

#7 Feb 17, 2009
Let's get into the nuts and bolts of your not a denomination church.
JB Good

Bonham, TX

#8 Feb 17, 2009


The Establishment of the church of Christ

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/237-...

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JB Good

Bonham, TX

#9 Feb 17, 2009
Justified wrote:
Let's get into the nuts and bolts of your not a denomination church.
What denomination are you a member of "Justified"?
JB Good

Bonham, TX

#10 Feb 17, 2009
Alexander Campbell & Christs Church

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/822-...

lt is a matter of historical record that there were churches of Christ – both in Europe and in America – before Alexander Campbell had a clear concept of what primitive Christianity was all about.

Leslie G. Thomas has documented New Testament churches in Scotland, England, and Ireland, dating between 1778 and 1810 (The Restoration Handbook, p. 73).

Historical accounts reveal that the Old Philadelphia congregation of the Lord’s people, which was near Morrison, Tennessee, was organized in the year 1810. Alexander Campbell was not baptized until 1812, and he continued to he affiliated with the Baptists until the 1820s.

Churches of Christ do not owe their origin to Campbell or any other human leader.

The fact that some, therefore, delight in using the term “Campbellite” to refer to those who choose to be called simply “Christians,” rather than wearing humanly-devised titles, is more of a commentary upon their characters than anything else.

Why is it that so many religionists have such a difficult time being comfortable with the name “Christian,” and that alone (cf. Acts 11:26; 26:28; 1 Pet. 4:16)? The use of human titles is sinful (cf. 1 Cor 1:10ff).

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JB Good

Bonham, TX

#11 Feb 17, 2009
I have posted enough to answer your question about the coC. This thread is for those who wish to post about the Baptist Church.

Thomas

United States

#12 Feb 17, 2009
Why doesn't the coc just worry about their own congregations and not blast Methodist, Baptist, Church of God and others? Other denominations don't try to debate with coc over their beliefs.
Justified

Dallas, TX

#13 Feb 17, 2009
JB Good wrote:
The Establishment of the church of Christ
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/237-...
emorychristians.org
I'm not going to read your articles, please explain what you want to teach me in your own words.

From the heart the mouth speaks.
Justified

Dallas, TX

#14 Feb 17, 2009
JB Good wrote:
I have posted enough to answer your question about the coC. This thread is for those who wish to post about the Baptist Church.
Wait a minute, I'm going to turn it into a thread revealing the false teaching of the coc. Apparently there are some things you need to see concerning what you have been taught to believe.
Justified

Dallas, TX

#15 Feb 17, 2009
Thomas wrote:
Why doesn't the coc just worry about their own congregations and not blast Methodist, Baptist, Church of God and others? Other denominations don't try to debate with coc over their beliefs.
You are absolutely right, but I am going to be the exception. Turn about is fair play. I want to play in their ballpark for a while.
JB Good

Bonham, TX

#16 Feb 17, 2009
Once again. You asked for it, You got it.

You are free to read it or not (Acts 28:24).

24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.(Acts 28:24)

Show where this bible information is wrong if you think it is incorrect.

The Establishment of the church of Christ

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/237 -...

emorychristians.org
Justified

Dallas, TX

#17 Feb 18, 2009
JB Good wrote:
Once again. You asked for it, You got it.
You are free to read it or not (Acts 28:24).
24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.(Acts 28:24)
Show where this bible information is wrong if you think it is incorrect.
The Establishment of the church of Christ
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/237 -...
emorychristians.org
I Corinthians 12:12-31,

12"For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ.
13For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
14For the body is not one member, but many.
15If the foot says, "Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.
16And if the ear says, "Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.
17If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be?
18But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired.
19If they were all one member, where would the body be?
Justified

Dallas, TX

#18 Feb 18, 2009
20But now there are many members, but one body.
21And the eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you"; or again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."
22On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary;
23and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable,
24whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked,
25so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.
26And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
27Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it.
28And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.
29All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they?
30All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?
31But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way.
Justified

Dallas, TX

#19 Feb 18, 2009
So we see that God says that there is one BODY of Christ (one Church) but is has many members or parts. Those parts all have their own individual callings and functions. Unfortunately, the Church of Christ denomination says to all other members of the body: "I have no need of you...you are not a part of the body!"
JB Good

Bonham, TX

#20 Feb 19, 2009
Justified wrote:
So we see that God says that there is one BODY of Christ (one Church) but is has many members or parts. Those parts all have their own individual callings and functions. Unfortunately, the Church of Christ denomination says to all other members of the body: "I have no need of you...you are not a part of the body!"
The body has many MEMBERS.

NOT other churches.

There is a great difference. If one does not obey the gospel in the correct manner he/she is not in the one church (or body)(John 10:1).

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

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