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Jul 20, 2009
 
You said -I drove by your church today and your sign at the church says "Gospel Preacher Your Name". Now, you claim not to be a pastor. So what is the difference from a pastor and a preacher? I for one think you are neither!!!

Me - Hi, I am not sure by the tone of your post if you really want a bible answer,but here it goes.

You said - "I drove by your church today"

1. The church is not the building. It is where the church (the people) meets to worship. One might ask how I know that the building is not the church? And that is a good question. I will answer that good question with bible scripture.

1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.(Acts 8:1)

A building cannot be persecuted. And the inspired scriptures would not call a building "THEY". It was the people who had submitted to the will of Christ according to (Rom.6:16-18)(Rom.6:3-6)(Acts 2:38 ; 22:16)(1Peter 3:21)(Heb.10:22). They were being persecuted and they were scattered abroad.

1.And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,(Acts 9:1)

In (Acts 8:1) the church was being persecuted.

In (Acts 9:1) we are told that the disciples of Christ were being threatened by Saul. So the church is made up of disciples of Christ (People) not a building made of brick,mortar and wood.
Pastor / Preacher:

A preacher is one who proclaims the truth of God to others. Paul was sent by God to preach to the Gentiles (Eph.3:1). Peter was a mouthpiece for God in (Acts 2) and in (Acts 10).

It is possible for a preacher to be an Elder / Pastor / Shepherd, but the following qualifications found in (Titus 1:5-9)(1Tim.3:1-13 ; 5:17) must be met first.

The Elders/ Shepherds / Pastors do not make doctrine they can only insure that the church is being taught truth (John 17:17). They can make decisions as to when the church worships,what color the carpet may be, or whether the contribution is either used for this good work or that one,etc.(Titus 1:5-9)(1Tim.3:1-13 ; 5:17)(Acts 20:28)(Heb.13:17)

One aother thing,we should never say the church is "our church". The church belongs to Christ and Him alone for He paid for it with His own blood shed upon the cruel cross (Acts 20:28).

...to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.



The church (those called out of the world)

of Christ (those belonging to Christ)


That is why we put "church of Christ" on the signs in front of the buildings.

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Sep 4, 2009
 
Good Post.

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Blue Ridge, TX

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Jan 5, 2013
 
This will help many if they desire to learn.

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William

Jacksons Gap, AL

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Jan 25, 2013
 
Since the CoC believes that a baptized believer is now a priest, of a royal and holy priesthood like Hebrews says, why aren't CoC preachers just called Priests? Or Chief Priests?

A little too Catholic for your taste?
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Jan 28, 2013
 
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;(1Peter 2:9)

2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.(Isa. 62:2)

thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.(Isa. 62:2)

The Lord names His people after both Jew and Gentile entered the church of Christ (body of Christ)(Rom. 7:4)(Rom. 16:16)(Acts 2:47)(Col. 1;18).

...And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.(Acts 11:26)

Since the Lord gave us a name we think it best to use it (Christians).

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William

Montgomery, AL

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Jan 28, 2013
 
You do realize that the Hebrew epistle is written to ... Hebrews, right?

But Paul wrote that we "know no man after the flesh."

Tough to reconcile, huh?

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Jan 30, 2013
 
The word of God calls each member of the church of Christ a priest.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;(1Peter 2:9)

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William

Opelika, AL

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Jan 30, 2013
 
You are a Hebrew now?
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Quitman, TX

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Jan 31, 2013
 
Stop fussing and judging and worship God.
William

Birmingham, AL

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Jan 31, 2013
 
"Stop fussing and judging and worship God."

I most certainly do worship God, starting with his instruction to "study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

2 Timothy 2:15 in a KJV.

Are you studying to show yourself approved unto God, or to man?
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Quitman, TX

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#11
Feb 1, 2013
 
William, I am a non traditional Church of Christ member. I do not study to justify my thoughts or others interpretation of the bible. I was simply commenting on what seems to be a contentious discussion from some and informed questions and answers from others. It IS NOT MY PLACE TO JUDGE MY FELLOW CHRISTIAN/human being. We are ALL CHILDREN OF GOD. My point is simply that I believe we have to seek the kingdom of God daily, that we are judged by our works inside and outside the church and I will pray for you. Please do the same for me and others. Thank you. NO THE CHURCHES OF CHRIST ARE NOT A CULT, for those who asked.
William

Harpersville, AL

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Feb 1, 2013
 
Every Church of Christ preacher in the country does nothing except want to constantly debate things in the Bible, and will go to great lengths to harangue people who dare to challenge their views. Haven't met one yet that touts studying the Bible per 2 Timothy 2:15 instructs.

The Kingdom of God is waiting to be revealed thusly. But get a KJV in order to be able to read about it.
William

Harpersville, AL

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Feb 1, 2013
 
And NO ONE is a child of God UNTIL they have trusted what God's son did FOR THEM at Calvary. He died FOR YOU. Do you trust his sacrifice and resurrection FOR YOUR salvation?

It is a free gift. Trust him right now as your savior.
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Yantis, TX

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Feb 1, 2013
 
WILLIAM, thank you for those words. KJV all the way. I trust, been baptised and spend constant time in ptayer. I can tell you are a sincere person. Refreshing.
William

Americus, GA

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Feb 1, 2013
 
2 Timothy 2:15

Commit it to memory and refer to it constantly in Bible study.

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Bible Reader wrote:
Stop fussing and judging and worship God.
2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; (Acts 17:2,3)

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Bible Reader wrote:
William, I am a non traditional Church of Christ member. I do not study to justify my thoughts or others interpretation of the bible. I was simply commenting on what seems to be a contentious discussion from some and informed questions and answers from others. It IS NOT MY PLACE TO JUDGE MY FELLOW CHRISTIAN/human being. We are ALL CHILDREN OF GOD. My point is simply that I believe we have to seek the kingdom of God daily, that we are judged by our works inside and outside the church and I will pray for you. Please do the same for me and others. Thank you. NO THE CHURCHES OF CHRIST ARE NOT A CULT, for those who asked.
We are to expose error.(Eph 5:11)

10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.(Eph. 5:11)

(Rom. 16:17,18)(Jn 4:1-6)(Acts 17;11)

William is teaching two different gospels.

One for the Jews and a totally different gospel for the Gentiles.
Note (Gal. 1:6-9)

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

I for one will not allow such error to be taught.

Souls are in the balance.

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Feb 2, 2013
 
Bible reader we study in one sense to correct error according to (2Tim. 3:14-16).

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

continue thou in the things which thou hast learned

thou hast known the holy scriptures,

which are able to make thee wise unto salvation

through faith

All scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

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Feb 2, 2013
 


Bible reader, would you allow someone to teach your family a faith "alone" plan of salvation?

That is what W is teaching.

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Feb 2, 2013
 
W, I do not understand why you would argue anyhow. If one is saved by faith "alone" why does it matter what one does after belief?

According to you it is a mute point.

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