Acts 2:38 and the Holy Spirit
Holy Spirit

Greenville, TX

#21 Jan 21, 2013
Below is a lesson on the Holy Spirit and Acts 2:38.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18559989

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William

Birmingham, AL

#22 Jan 22, 2013
"Do you wash feet (Jn 13)?"

No. Nor do I claim anything in Acts 2, since it was not written to, or about, me. And it wasn't written to you either.

Were you a Jew who physically witnessed the death of Christ and heard Peter's words? Then it WAS written for you.

Not for us today. Paul is your apostle, not Peter.
Paul Baptized Crispus

Greenville, TX

#23 Jan 22, 2013
William wrote:
"Do you wash feet (Jn 13)?"
No. Nor do I claim anything in Acts 2, since it was not written to, or about, me. And it wasn't written to you either.
Were you a Jew who physically witnessed the death of Christ and heard Peter's words? Then it WAS written for you.
Not for us today. Paul is your apostle, not Peter.
Col_4:16 And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

1Th_5:27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.

17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.(1Cor.4:17)

...who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.(1Cor.4:17)

...who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.(1Cor.4:17)

...who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.(1Cor.4:17)

Paul taught the very same thing in all the churches (every church). When you add to this (1Cor.1:10) and (Phil.3:16) what you are teaching is not possible. There is no way there can be two gospels and still be pleasing to the Lord.

16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.(Phil.3:16)

"walk" - G4748
στο ιχε ́ω
stoicheō
stoy-kheh'-o
From a derivative of στε ίχ ω steichō̄ (to range in regular line); to march in (military) rank (keep step), that is,(figuratively) to conform to virtue and piety:- walk (orderly).

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William

Birmingham, AL

#24 Jan 24, 2013
“But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell”(Genesis 4:5 KJV).

We are some 6,000 years removed from today’s Scripture, and yet it teaches us a valuable lesson of our "eternal worth."

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God”(Romans 10:17).“By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain…”(Hebrews 11:4). The LORD gave Cain and his brother Abel clear instructions. Only Abel did what God said because only he believed what God said. Abel, a shepherd (Genesis 4:2),“brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof”(verse 4a). Cain, a farmer (verse 2),“brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD”(verse 3).
Notice what Abel brought—a sheep, a blood sacrifice, and its fat, which is what God said to do. Observe what Cain brought—something he grew. Cain had probably slaved away watering that crop, weeding that patch of ground, and so on. Cain brought the very “best” he could bring—it was the work of his own hands. He rationalized,“Surely, God will accept this fruit of the ground. He knows I put so much effort into it. How can He say no?”
When Cain saw the fire of God come down from heaven and consume his brother’s sacrifice, and yet nothing happened to his sacrifice, today’s Scripture tells us that Cain grew very upset.“How dare You, God! It was my very best, and You do not want it!” Cain probably threw a tantrum and cursed. Eventually, filled with that religious rage, he murdered Abel (verse 8).

Cain symbolizes today’s average religious person, who refuses to do what God’s Word says for us TODAY, and since Paul was given the gospel of the grace of God:“Trust in the finished crosswork of Christ and I will save you.” Like Cain, they offer “their absolute best”... tithing 10%, water baptism, "holy living", acts of charity, penance, church membership, et cetera—things God never commanded them to do for salvation TODAY. Those things are “filthy rags”(Isaiah 64:6) when compared to Jesus Christ’s perfect sacrifice of Himself.

And when these people die, like Cain, they will be greatly disappointed. TRUST what was done FOR YOU at Calvary today, and you will not be disappointed.
Christian

Greenville, TX

#25 Jan 26, 2013
So under Paul's gospel one need not -

...repent of a life of sin (Luke 13:3)

...confess Jesus is the Son of God (Rom. 10:9,10)

...be immersed in water for the remission of sins(Acts 2:38 ; 22:16)(1Peter 3:20,21)(Rom. 6:4)(Col. 2:12)(Heb 10:22)

Is this correct W?

The alien sinner does not need to do any of the things I listed above to be saved b/c then man would be adding something to the finished work of Jesus upon the cross and that would be SIN.

Is that correct W?

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William

Birmingham, AL

#26 Jan 26, 2013
"...confess Jesus is the Son of God (Rom. 10:9,10)"

Where does Romans 10:9-10 say that "Jesus is the son of God"?

Romans 10:9-10

King James Version (KJV)


9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Now I know that the CoC hates those verses because they don't mention water baptism as part of salvation, but I've never seen those verses reworded to included something that Paul already knew and preached about Jesus being the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God. But believing that Christ is the son of God will not save anyone, and that is not the gospel that was given to Paul from the resurrected Christ, as 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 outlines.

Christ died FOR YOUR sins. Peter never preached it. John never preached it. James never preached it. Only Paul was given the gospel of Jesus Christ, and he calls it MY GOSPEL three times in his epistles.
William

Birmingham, AL

#27 Jan 26, 2013
"...be immersed in water for the remission of sins(Acts 2:38 ; 22:16)(1Peter 3:20,21)(Rom. 6:4)(Col. 2:12)(Heb 10:22)"

Since Paul was not sent to baptize, but to preach what was given to him in 1 Corinthian 15:1-4, why would one assume that he is talking about "water baptism" in his Roman, Colossian, or Ephesian letter? And no, he didn't write Hebrews either.

Peter was sent by Christ to the circumcision. Paul to the uncircumcision. Galatians 2 makes this clear. You really need to start reading THE BIBLE, and not some book that claims to be the Bible (NKJV, NIV, ESV, NASB, ASV, NLT, The Message, etc., etc.)

The KJV is THE BIBLE in the English language.
Repent Confess

Greenville, TX

#28 Jan 30, 2013
So under Paul's gospel one need not confess or repent. Is this what you are teaching W?

...repent of a life of sin (Luke 13:3)

...confess Jesus is the Son of God (Rom. 10:9,10)

The alien sinner does not need to do any of the things I listed above to be saved b/c then man would be adding something to the finished work of Jesus upon the cross and that would be SIN.

Is that correct W?

Please be a man and just answer YES or NO.

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William

Birmingham, AL

#29 Jan 30, 2013
Repent of a life of sin? Or repent of idolatry and turn to God for salvation through faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of his son FOR YOU?

You CoC people kill me. There is NOT ONE PERSON who has ever "repented of a life of sin" and "cleaned up his flesh" so that he or she could be "pleasing to God."

And Romans 10:9-10 does not deal with the fact that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God. Paul already knew that. The Romans that he wrote to knew that. You and I know that.

What I know and trust because I believe the gospel of Jesus Christ as given to Paul, is that Jesus Christ died on that cross, took the sin of the world (and my sin) with him to hell, and God resurrected him for our justification if we believe and trust what was done FOR US. Sin is no longer the issue today, and hasn't been for close to 2,000 years. The ONLY thing that will send a person to hell is whether or not a person trusts Jesus Christ as their savior ... apart from ANYTHING added to what Christ did at Calvary and his resurrection.

Do you believe and TRUST what he did, or do you reject it, preferring to add to the finished work of Calvary?

Sosthenes

Since: Aug 11

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#30 Feb 6, 2013
You sidestepped my very simple questions W.


1. Must an alien sinner "Confess" Jesus is the Son of God to be saved.

2. Must an aline sinner "Repent" (of a life of sin) to be saved?

You are teaching one need NOT do anything to be saved (belief "alone" salvation).

Yet the bible claims one "cannot" be saved without repenting of sin and "confessing" Jesus is the Son of God.

You can crack a joke if you want but the questions still remain.

Is a person saved by belief "alone" or MUST one "repent" and "confess" to be saved.

(Luke 13:3)(Rom. 10:9,10).

...if thou shalt "confess" with thy mouth the Lord Jesus...

The word "if' means "upon the condition that" so "confession" is not an optional matter but rather man is obligated to confess Jesus is the Son of God to be saved.

I would also point out that "confession" is something man DOES with his mouth (action).

So this one point (one must confess) proves anyone teaching a faith "alone" salvation is in error.


9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God...(2Jn 9)

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Sosthenes

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31 Feb 6, 2013
Corrction :

You sidestepped my very simple questions W.

1. Must an alien sinner "Confess" Jesus is the Son of God to be saved.

2. Must an alien sinner "Repent" to be saved?

Sorry I still had the words you wrote in my head as I was posting.



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William

Talladega, AL

#32 Feb 7, 2013
God says that the carnal mind is enmity against him and that they that are in the flesh cannot please him.

Are you in the flesh? Yes, you most certainly are. So what is repentance then if the flesh cannot please God?

It is turning fo God for salvation through Christ's merits, and Christ's merits alone. HIS righteousness is the only thing that God will accept.

How do you turn from sin. Trust Jesus Christ ALONE as your savior. HIS righteousness is the only thing God will accept on your behalf. Galatians 2:16 tells us that we are justified by the faith OF Jesus Christ.

Or does your NKJV replace OF with IN?

Sosthenes

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#33 Feb 13, 2013
You will not find that any one thing "ALONE" saves man.

You are in a tough spot w.

*Man must have faith to be saved (Heb. 11:6).
Faith is something man does (action) and it is also called a work (Jn 6:29).

...this is the work of God, that ye believe


*Man must confess to be saved and confession is something man does (action) to be saved (Rom. 10:9,10).

...9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth

* Man must repent to be saved (Luke 13:3).
Repentance is something man does (action) on the part of man.

3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. 29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.(Mt. 21:28)

* Man must be baptized (in water) to be saved according to (Acts 2:38)(Acts 22;16).

It amazes me that the very thing that is a passive act, you denominational people claim is a work. Baptism is something which is done to you. the person wanting to be baptized is passive, but you still call it a work.

But that is not enough, you denominational people say each and every thing man must do (which I have listed above) to be saved is not work. It seems you have it all turned backwards. Ole Satan is good at getting people to turn the commands of the Lord around backwards. Remember Eve?

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(James 2:24)

20.... faith without works is dead?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

W, you are teaching a dead faith will save.

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.(2Cor. 4:4)


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William

Birmingham, AL

#34 Feb 13, 2013
So when Paul said that he was not sent to baptize, and even thanked God for not baptizing, wasn't he "out of the will of the Lord" regarding the so-called "great commission" of Mark 16:16?

According to the CoC, he was preaching "the gospel" wasn't he?
Not But Passage

Greenville, TX

#35 Feb 14, 2013

(1Cor. 1:17) is a classic example of a "not/but" passage in grammar.

In other words, not so much this, as that.

The first element is not entirely negated but only toned down to bring forth the emphasis on the second.

What (1Cor.1:17) is actually saying is that Christ sent me not to baptize ONLY, but to preach the gospel.


We know that water baptism is a part of the gospel which saves by reading (Mark 16:15,16).

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved ...(Mark 16:15,16).

We could go to (Mt. 10:19,20) which is a parallel passage to the "not/but" passage of (1Cor.1:17).

19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Were the apostles not speaking literally? Of course they were, they were just being led to speak by the Holy Spirit as (Jn 14:26 : 16:13) teaches.

If people force the same incorrect understanding on (Mt. 10:19,20) as they do (1Cor.1:17) then the apostles would not even be speaking with their own voice but with the very voice of God.

"For it is not ye that speak" (Mt. 10:20)

Was this the apostles voice men heard or Gods?

The fact is, it was Gods message they heard through the apostles voice.

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Not But Passage

Greenville, TX

#36 Feb 14, 2013
William wrote:
So when Paul said that he was not sent to baptize, and even thanked God for not baptizing, wasn't he "out of the will of the Lord" regarding the so-called "great commission" of Mark 16:16?
According to the CoC, he was preaching "the gospel" wasn't he?
When dealing with (1Cor.1:17) one must keep in mind the problem they were having in this chapter.

The problem was preacher-idus.

12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?(1Cor.1:12,13)

People began claiming they were baptized of this person or that person and the person baptizing them became a status symbol rather than a biblical example.

Were are not to esteem one brother over another. Instead of humbling themselves they had already began to hold certain members of the church in a much higher regard than other members. this is sin. and b/c of this sins Paul said He was glad he did not baptize any other than Crispus, Gauis and I baptized also the household of Stephanas (1Cor.1:14,15).

14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

To teach this chapter is teaching Paul was not teaching baptism is a part of the gospel which saves is error (false doctrine). Mark 16:15,16) clearly teaches one must -

believe + be baptized = to be saved.(Mark 16:15,16)

Whatever (1Cor.1:17) teaches it must harmonize with (Mark 16;15,16).

(Mark 16:15,16) does not harmonize with what you are teaching W. So you have a real big problem. You are opposing the very word of God.



*11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; (1Peter 4:11)

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.(Jn 12:48)

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Not But Passage

Greenville, TX

#37 Feb 14, 2013
William wrote:
So when Paul said that he was not sent to baptize, and even thanked God for not baptizing, wasn't he "out of the will of the Lord" regarding the so-called "great commission" of Mark 16:16?
According to the CoC, he was preaching "the gospel" wasn't he?
You are wrong again W.

Paul did baptize some people. He was glad he did not baptize any more than he did according to (1Cor.1:14-16).

14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;

15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.

16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

It seems you are having a difficult time admitting Paul did baptize some people as recorded in (1Cor.1:14-16). You will not harmonize with the word of God until you accept this fact.

Paul done what he was commanded (Jn 14:15,21)(Jn 15:10,14).

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.(1Jn 2:3-6)

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William

New Orleans, LA

#38 Feb 14, 2013
Paul certainly did baptize some, but he was not sent to baptize and thanked God for not baptizing others. That isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for adhering to the so-called "great commission" now is it

Why?

Because water baptism has no part in the gospel which Paul received by revelation from Christ. Nowhere in any of his 13 epistles does he reference water baptism or instruct Timothy, Titus, Barnabas, Aquila, Priscilla, or anyone else to water baptize.

The gospel that Paul received IS NOT the same gospel that John the Baptist or Peter preached. They were sent TO baptize. Paul was sent NOT yo baptize, but to preach Christ and him crucified and resurrected FOR OUR sins. Jew and Gentile alike. Peter never preached this to those Israelites in Acts 2. It just isn't there.

Paul is your apostle, not Peter. Paul's gospel (Romans 2:16) is the only gospel that anyone today is saved by, and it has been that way for 1900+ years. What is Paul's gospel that he calls MY gospel?

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Hear it. Believe it. Trust it.

Anything else other than 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is an accursed gospel that will not save anyone.

"MY gospel."
Grace Teaches

Greenville, TX

#39 Mar 1, 2013
Notice what the apostle Pauls said in (Acts 22:16).

16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

...arise,

...and be baptized,

...and wash away thy sins

One cannot be saved while still in his sins.

Paul in the verse above says sins are not washed away by the blood of Jesus until after being baptized.

One cannot have any part with God until he has his sins forgiven according to (Isa. 59:1,2).

But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

What Paul taught in (Acts 22:16) harmonizes with (Isa. 59:1,2). it also harmonizes with (Rom. 6:16-18).

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Grace Teaches

Greenville, TX

#40 Mar 1, 2013
William wrote:
Paul certainly did baptize some, but he was not sent to baptize and thanked God for not baptizing others. That isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for adhering to the so-called "great commission" now is it
Why?
Because water baptism has no part in the gospel which Paul received by revelation from Christ. Nowhere in any of his 13 epistles does he reference water baptism or instruct Timothy, Titus, Barnabas, Aquila, Priscilla, or anyone else to water baptize.
The gospel that Paul received IS NOT the same gospel that John the Baptist or Peter preached. They were sent TO baptize. Paul was sent NOT yo baptize, but to preach Christ and him crucified and resurrected FOR OUR sins. Jew and Gentile alike. Peter never preached this to those Israelites in Acts 2. It just isn't there.
Paul is your apostle, not Peter. Paul's gospel (Romans 2:16) is the only gospel that anyone today is saved by, and it has been that way for 1900+ years. What is Paul's gospel that he calls MY gospel?
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Hear it. Believe it. Trust it.
Anything else other than 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is an accursed gospel that will not save anyone.
"MY gospel."
Water is mentioned in the epistles but you would not accept the scriptures I post. So I will give you all the water you want. To learn how peoppe became Christians one mUST go to the book of Acts. In the book of Acts we can read of the history of how each church had its beginning.



Pentecostians - Baptized ---> (Acts 2:38,41)

Samaritans ----- Baptized --->( Acts 8:12)

Simon -------- Baptized ----> (Acts 8:13)

Ethiopian ---Baptized -----> (Acts 8:38-39)

Cornelius --- Baptized------> (Acts 10:48)

Lydia --------- Baptized ---->(Acts 16:14)

The Jailer --- Baptized ----->(Acts 16:33)

Corinthians --Baptized -----> (Acts 18:8)

Ephesians ---Baptized ------> (Acts 19:5)

Paul ----------Baptized ----> (Acts 22:16)

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