E-mails detail utilities' lack of fre...

E-mails detail utilities' lack of freeze planning

There are 30 comments on the El Paso Times story from Mar 4, 2011, titled E-mails detail utilities' lack of freeze planning. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

On Feb. 6, executives of El Paso Electric Co. and El Paso Water Utilities appeared on television, praising their mutual cooperation and saying the water utility agreed to rolling blackouts during a weather crisis that started five days earlier.

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ohmygosh

Scottsdale, AZ

#21 Mar 5, 2011
Ticked Off wrote:
Thanks to EPEC and Texas Gas, I now have $2,000 worth of swimming pool repairs that were never supposed to happen! Good job guys in patting yourselves on the back while the rest of us suffer huge plumbing costs.
Maybe you should send them a thank you letter to show your appreciation.
Paco

El Paso, TX

#22 Mar 5, 2011
Ticked Off wrote:
Thanks to EPEC and Texas Gas, I now have $2,000 worth of swimming pool repairs that were never supposed to happen! Good job guys in patting yourselves on the back while the rest of us suffer huge plumbing costs.
That is a sticky situation indeed. But how did the Gas company cause damage to your plumbing? I sympathize with you because both of the toilets in my house went kaput during the storm and I've had to rent a portable crapper until I can scrape together enough dough for the repairs. But I'm not blaming the gas company because the gas in my bathroom, while certainly natural, is not imported into my house through the pipes. Instead, it's spontaneously generated via digestion and then expelled at the proper time and with a thorough spritz of air freshener administered afterward.
RBS

Rome, GA

#23 Mar 5, 2011
It is no doubt that what happened to the city was inconvenient and aggravating at times. However, one must keep in mind that that weather event WAS a first for El Paso. It is likely to never happen again, just like the flooding a few years ago. It is impossible to completely plan for a weather event such as that. El Paso could have been completely without ANY utilities had it not been for the quick thinking of the utility companies. Were mistakes made, absolutely but that is to be expected with an event that has never happened and is not likely that the same mistakes would happen again.
Instead of griping and complaining, be glad that the utility companies were able to at least do what they did.
As citizens we are also personally responsible for preparing for potential weather events or disasters to take care of ourselves and our families and not be completely dependent on the government to think for us. We can make safety plans for our families, have an emergency bag with supplies should a disaster take place etc.
Gary

El Paso, TX

#24 Mar 5, 2011
RBS wrote:
It is no doubt that what happened to the city was inconvenient and aggravating at times. However, one must keep in mind that that weather event WAS a first for El Paso. It is likely to never happen again, just like the flooding a few years ago. It is impossible to completely plan for a weather event such as that. El Paso could have been completely without ANY utilities had it not been for the quick thinking of the utility companies. Were mistakes made, absolutely but that is to be expected with an event that has never happened and is not likely that the same mistakes would happen again.
Instead of griping and complaining, be glad that the utility companies were able to at least do what they did.
As citizens we are also personally responsible for preparing for potential weather events or disasters to take care of ourselves and our families and not be completely dependent on the government to think for us. We can make safety plans for our families, have an emergency bag with supplies should a disaster take place etc.
I don't care about the weather because when it turns bad I just go to my other house in the Dominican. But the emergency bag is a great idea and I adopted it myself a few years ago. I keep first aid supplies, water, two days supply of food and condoms, tools, flashlight and several weapons in it so I'm prepared to absolutely anything that arises.
Rey

El Paso, TX

#25 Mar 5, 2011
Second attempt at posting, must of hit a nerve. Last posting was deleted.

It appears NO ONE knows that water freezes at 32 degrees. Therefore NO ONE, from homeowners to utilities managers to city official do ANY preparation.

We have INEPT city officials and utilities managers. Same problems EVERY year when it rains. Some people dont get it and continue to elect the same inept people.

Some of you believe that with enough skyscapers, trains, trolleys and monorails, you have become a big city. We need to take care of the basic issues first. Better streets, city services, budgets, corruption, jobs, industry.

The first step is to stop electing these corrupt and inept people. Then hold the civil sector accountable. NOT a wink and a nod.
LikeitIS

Siler City, NC

#26 Mar 5, 2011
Vernon wrote:
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Speaking as an educator, I must say that your analogy is misguide. You chose to go to McDonald's instead of eating the food in your refrigerator. Caveat emptor still applies to all purchases made.
If I used your logic, then just because Bill Clinton shagged some butter hog in his office then I should do the same. It all has to end somewhere so I say let's pick up the pieces and move on. No point in crying over spilled milk.
If you're an educator, then you must work at UTEP. Your first sentence is incorrect. Go back kissing Natalicio's a$$.
El Permeador

El Paso, TX

#27 Mar 5, 2011
MamaLaVerga wrote:
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This, forum readers, is the epitome of a modern El Pasoan! Positive mental attitude is everything and if more of you emulated Fed Up, this town would be a better place.
It's more likely that if you left your heinous, foulous mouth open, the city would be a better place because your breath, which reeks of rotten fruit, excrement and garlic would belay the flies which regularly plague our desert environment.

More people running around smiling and stupid is the last thing this city needs. Look at what the current stupid, smiling bunch at city hall got you.

But perhaps I am amiss, as most people I see are stupid and smiling after stepping out of the voting booth, fresh off selling their city and their family's future off to a bushel of folks looking to line their own pockets.

This city will reek until it can elect people who truly represent it. Dems/Reps, who cares. SOMEONE needs to stand up for the people, and I'm not talking about CrOOk the plumber. Honestly--that's the best we can do? EVERYONE in El Paso must've been high on some s__hit on that election day. Might as well have elected Howdy Doody---at least he's been successful at SOMETHING (and he's better looking)

Peace, out, and long live the ELP.
Taxpayer

El Paso, TX

#28 Mar 5, 2011
Great reporting; I really hope you continue to dig for more information. It's clear our infrustructure is nowhere it should be. EPE has had profits at the cost to our community there is no excuse for lack of preparation. It's also clear they have not invested in improving their equipment. They are to be blamed for everyone's whoas! Because of them we looked liked idiots on national news. How do you explain the debilitated infrustructure to potential companies looking at El Paso as a place to bring their business? Now that we know EPE hasn't done their maintenance how will we ensure it doesn't happen again? What will the city do to ensure better communication? When will EPE have competition; a monopoly is not good to our community?
24 Charlie 0 0

United States

#29 Mar 6, 2011
Vernon wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking as an educator, I must say that your analogy is misguide. You chose to go to McDonald's instead of eating the food in your refrigerator. Caveat emptor still applies to all purchases made.
If I used your logic, then just because Bill Clinton shagged some butter hog in his office then I should do the same. It all has to end somewhere so I say let's pick up the pieces and move on. No point in crying over spilled milk.
Vernon, you may think you speak as an educator, but I am sure the educated educators wished that you wouldn't claim to be one. Let me try simple terms for you, because obviously this discussion is over your head. Please, don't try to bring your head-of-the-third-grade-class mentality into the real world.

1. If "Caveat emptor" applied to all purchases, there would be no legal recourse available. Since there is, your argument is empty and implies that you have no idea what the term means.

2. Apparently you have no idea what logic means either. Following my logic, we need to pursue every legal means against a vendor that did not live up to the contract.

3. "No point in crying over spilled milk..." Actually if we can keep this fiasco from occurring again as well as perhaps receiving some financial restitution, there is plenty point.

Vernon, I don't think you are an educator. At best, you fill the position and draw a check. More likely, you are a want to be shut in, as your attempt at an argument indicates.
MamaLaVerga

El Paso, TX

#30 Mar 7, 2011
El Permeador wrote:
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It's more likely that if you left your heinous, foulous mouth open, the city would be a better place because your breath, which reeks of rotten fruit, excrement and garlic would belay the flies which regularly plague our desert environment.
More people running around smiling and stupid is the last thing this city needs. Look at what the current stupid, smiling bunch at city hall got you.
But perhaps I am amiss, as most people I see are stupid and smiling after stepping out of the voting booth, fresh off selling their city and their family's future off to a bushel of folks looking to line their own pockets.
This city will reek until it can elect people who truly represent it. Dems/Reps, who cares. SOMEONE needs to stand up for the people, and I'm not talking about CrOOk the plumber. Honestly--that's the best we can do? EVERYONE in El Paso must've been high on some s__hit on that election day. Might as well have elected Howdy Doody---at least he's been successful at SOMETHING (and he's better looking)
Peace, out, and long live the ELP.
I don't keep my mouth open continually like you, as you mamalaverga! Quit huffing gasoline, please, your brain damage is showing.

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