E-mails detail utilities' lack of freeze planning

Full story: El Paso Times 30
On Feb. 6, executives of El Paso Electric Co. and El Paso Water Utilities appeared on television, praising their mutual cooperation and saying the water utility agreed to rolling blackouts during a weather crisis that started five days earlier. Full Story
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Lou

El Paso, TX

#1 Mar 5, 2011
Perhaps during emergency situations leaders might want to think about TALKING to each other on the PHONE! We don't e-mail the 911 operator.
Rick Talamantes

El Paso, TX

#2 Mar 5, 2011
Keep digging, keep the pressure on these hoity-toities, expose the truth to the public. Maybe this will keep them from spending money on PR and use it for emergency infrastructure. This folly must never happen again. I want to know why EPEC was not running water thru those cooling towers after all the alerts of the impending freeze.
24 Charlie 0 0

El Paso, TX

#3 Mar 5, 2011
When the smoke clears, some people need to see some jail time. That will do the most to insure this never happens again.

The apologists out there will yell "jail time for what?" Let's start with public endangerment.

The apologists and survivalist radicals will yell "people should have been prepared!" I was. But that is like saying that I should have food in the refrigerator and not hold McDonald's accountable if they don't get my order right.

And finally, the families of the workers will yell "but they try so hard!" Nobody is blaming the workers, this is about the people in charge.
Vernon

El Paso, TX

#4 Mar 5, 2011
24 Charlie 0 0 wrote:
When the smoke clears, some people need to see some jail time. That will do the most to insure this never happens again.
The apologists out there will yell "jail time for what?" Let's start with public endangerment.
The apologists and survivalist radicals will yell "people should have been prepared!" I was. But that is like saying that I should have food in the refrigerator and not hold McDonald's accountable if they don't get my order right.
And finally, the families of the workers will yell "but they try so hard!" Nobody is blaming the workers, this is about the people in charge.
Speaking as an educator, I must say that your analogy is misguide. You chose to go to McDonald's instead of eating the food in your refrigerator. Caveat emptor still applies to all purchases made.

If I used your logic, then just because Bill Clinton shagged some butter hog in his office then I should do the same. It all has to end somewhere so I say let's pick up the pieces and move on. No point in crying over spilled milk.
reader

El Paso, TX

#5 Mar 5, 2011
educator the word should be misguided not misguide!
where

El Paso, TX

#6 Mar 5, 2011
where the f__uck was archuleta during all this ? isnt he the one being overpaid to death to let costanza do all the work. get rid of archuleta and let nick run it without a raise. we would wait till he actually learns how to run epwu before maybe paying a little more.
Fed Up

El Paso, TX

#7 Mar 5, 2011
Vernon wrote:
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Speaking as an educator, I must say that your analogy is misguide. You chose to go to McDonald's instead of eating the food in your refrigerator. Caveat emptor still applies to all purchases made.
If I used your logic, then just because Bill Clinton shagged some butter hog in his office then I should do the same. It all has to end somewhere so I say let's pick up the pieces and move on. No point in crying over spilled milk.
Speaking as a person who got a decent education (not in El Paso, thank goodness) I find it ironic that you're lecturing Charlie O. Firstly, you should have used the word misguided instead of "misguide". Secondly, if we have educators using language such as "shagged some butter hog", it's no wonder that students today speak and write so poorly. Thirdly, Bill Clinton's sexual disgression is in an equally misguided analogy, so quit crying over spilled milk.
Fed Up

El Paso, TX

#8 Mar 5, 2011
This is one of the better pieces of reporting I have seen from the El Paso Times. Good job.
ohnoyoudidnt

United States

#9 Mar 5, 2011
A decade later and we are still talking about this!? The only thing people will remember out of the whole situation a few years from now are those famous and encouraging words: "l'm not a plumber!"
fed up educator

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Mar 5, 2011
Fed Up wrote:
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Speaking as a person who got a decent education (not in El Paso, thank goodness) I find it ironic that you're lecturing Charlie O. Firstly, you should have used the word misguided instead of "misguide". Secondly, if we have educators using language such as "shagged some butter hog", it's no wonder that students today speak and write so poorly. Thirdly, Bill Clinton's sexual disgression is in an equally misguided analogy, so quit crying over spilled milk.
Hey Fed Up,
Your big fancy out of town education didn't teach you to use the word "discretion" instead of "disgression"? Or maybe you missed that day at Harvard?
Vernon

El Paso, TX

#11 Mar 5, 2011
Fed Up wrote:
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Speaking as a person who got a decent education (not in El Paso, thank goodness) I find it ironic that you're lecturing Charlie O. Firstly, you should have used the word misguided instead of "misguide". Secondly, if we have educators using language such as "shagged some butter hog", it's no wonder that students today speak and write so poorly. Thirdly, Bill Clinton's sexual disgression is in an equally misguided analogy, so quit crying over spilled milk.
How else do you want for me to phrase it? I tell my students like it is - I don't beat around the bush like these namby pamby modern teachers. Besides, I teach history and not English and my record speaks for itself: 27 years and a 72% passing rate and 2 of my kids got into college last year, one at EPCC and one at Angelo State.
bozo

El Paso, TX

#12 Mar 5, 2011
fed up educator wrote:
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Hey Fed Up,
Your big fancy out of town education didn't teach you to use the word "discretion" instead of "disgression"? Or maybe you missed that day at Harvard?
...hahaha... awesome... harvard? very doubtful... univ of phoenix in santa teresa more than likely... it is, after all, "outside of el paso"...
hahaha..
fed up educator

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Mar 5, 2011
bozo wrote:
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...hahaha... awesome... harvard? very doubtful... univ of phoenix in santa teresa more than likely... it is, after all, "outside of el paso"...
hahaha..
I know, right? And I didn't even expand fully. The correct word to use in this context would have been "indiscretion", but I thought adding more letters may have been to complex for Fed Up's superior intellect.

If I was Fed Up, I would call UOP and ask for my money back....
Fed Up

El Paso, TX

#14 Mar 5, 2011
fed up educator wrote:
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I know, right? And I didn't even expand fully. The correct word to use in this context would have been "indiscretion", but I thought adding more letters may have been to complex for Fed Up's superior intellect.
If I was Fed Up, I would call UOP and ask for my money back....
You can all blow it out your backsides. You can laugh all you want but the truth is that I'm spending the weekend with an 18 year old beauty who has an enormous rack and who thinks I'm the cat's meow. We're even thinking about buying some property and moving into together. Her had already put her half into escrow. So you can laugh now but you'll be laughing out of your butts later while I get serviced by my new soul mate.
MamaLaVerga

El Paso, TX

#15 Mar 5, 2011
Fed Up wrote:
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You can all blow it out your backsides. You can laugh all you want but the truth is that I'm spending the weekend with an 18 year old beauty who has an enormous rack and who thinks I'm the cat's meow. We're even thinking about buying some property and moving into together. Her had already put her half into escrow. So you can laugh now but you'll be laughing out of your butts later while I get serviced by my new soul mate.
This, forum readers, is the epitome of a modern El Pasoan! Positive mental attitude is everything and if more of you emulated Fed Up, this town would be a better place.
Gil

El Paso, TX

#16 Mar 5, 2011
So the utility "God's" had no communication amongst themselves. Richard Fleager and David Stevens should of Stayed at Southern Union Gas (now Texas Gas) where Fleager was the boss and Stevens was in Austin. Archuleta was nowhere to be seen so he gets a Pass give me a break. The "I'm not a plumber" guy didn't give a hoot. Her majesty was running the show and appearantly couldn't get the right hand to talk to the left.
I AM NOT SURPRISED EL PASO IS RUN BY IDIOTS
Cathy

El Paso, TX

#17 Mar 5, 2011
Vernon wrote:
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Speaking as an educator, I must say that your analogy is misguide. You chose to go to McDonald's instead of eating the food in your refrigerator. Caveat emptor still applies to all purchases made.
If I used your logic, then just because Bill Clinton shagged some butter hog in his office then I should do the same. It all has to end somewhere so I say let's pick up the pieces and move on. No point in crying over spilled milk.
I'm also offended by your language. I think it's a sign of an educated person to make their point without being vulgar.
Who Cares

United States

#18 Mar 5, 2011
You all know these companies are going to lie, they are like goverment elected officials of El Paso, Texas
james russell

El Paso, TX

#19 Mar 5, 2011
Twenty seven years teaching and you have a seventy two percent passing average? Kind of low isn't it? Would have been better if the number of students passing was at least eighty five percent or better. THE Full truth of the is coming out in the E-mails and yes maybe someone will get fired and someone will end up going to jail. BY the way "Where" being vulgar does not help your arguments in the slightest.
Ticked Off

El Paso, TX

#20 Mar 5, 2011
Thanks to EPEC and Texas Gas, I now have $2,000 worth of swimming pool repairs that were never supposed to happen! Good job guys in patting yourselves on the back while the rest of us suffer huge plumbing costs.

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