Overriding of veto on billboards up f...

Overriding of veto on billboards up for vote

There are 39 comments on the El Paso Times story from Jul 27, 2009, titled Overriding of veto on billboards up for vote. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

Billboards are back. The City Council on Tuesday will again delve into the controversial issue of how to regulate them.

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Follow the money ---

Houston, TX

#1 Jul 27, 2009
It's obvious the Mayor is doing Clear Channel's bidding. EPT--do an investigation of the money trail between Cook and Clear Channel.
to susie

El Paso, TX

#2 Jul 27, 2009


#3 Jul 27, 2009
Well, let me try a second posting. Although I made sure my comment was posted, now it has disappeared.

I dont think the mayor is doing Clear channels bidding. But I do wonder whose bidding the council is doing.

He should have vetoed the issue only because the study done by the city staff was proven to be manipulated. Not because there are too many signs or the city looks better. The newspaper did not say a word about the manipulation only that the issue was vetoed. The regular re-broadcast of the council meeting was not done. WHY? The council members looked like a deer in headlights when the FACTS were presented.

Ask that the council meeting be re-broadcast UNEDITED and see for YOURSELF.

The newspaper did publish a later statement, that Ms Lilley had stated that this issue was HER baby and Mr. Oretga stated that the issue should be passed because it was a LEGACY for Ms. Lilley. WHAT? The council is elected for running the city not building personal legacies. Does he really believe we will read about this vote in the encylopedia or see it on a college history exam?

United States

#4 Jul 27, 2009
Susie Byrd is full of herself and thinks she is the only one that has any brains. Watch the meetings. She has to speak on each and every item, no matter what.

No, Mayor Cook is not doing Clear Channels' bidding - rather he is making the playing field fairer for the small billboard sign businesses. With the current Ordinance, Clear Channel will have a monopoly.

United States

#5 Jul 27, 2009
Oh, and Rey is right on this one. One of the attorneys for the billboard companies caught Byrd in an outright lie and played the proof during the Council meeting. And, yes, she looked like a deer struck by headlights.


#6 Jul 27, 2009
Slightly off thread.

Notice how byrd is getting regular coverage with her picture, just started after the elections were over. Wonder if she is running for a future office without running? The trick is usually to get a lot of coverage and opine before announcing a campaign, months in advance.
Girard Kinney

Austin, TX

#7 Jul 27, 2009
Please override the Mayor's Veto of the Billboards Amendment
Girard Kinney

Austin, TX

#8 Jul 27, 2009
Please override the Mayor's Veto of the El Paso City Council passed ordinance that would stop billboards and remove many of them.

Since: Aug 08

El Paso, TX

#9 Jul 27, 2009
Thank God they finally got passed this issue. Now they might be able to work on things that are really important for the city.

El Paso, TX

#10 Jul 27, 2009
I am very sad that our suposedly populist Mayor has caved in to commercial interests which, in truth, care little about the quality of life in our community. Like almost all other businesses headquartered outside of our county,
Clear Channel senior management cares only about the quality of life in the communities in which they reside and about the investment returns to their stockholders. I very much doubt that this is in the long term best interest of El Paso or its residents.

New Braunfels, TX

#11 Jul 27, 2009
Please, the Mayor is a transplant from Los Angeles because he seems to be doing the same thing in El Paso that Villagrossa did to Los Angeles. Doesn't it seem funny that Clear Channel is willing to give up all those billboards for the digitals they have up against city ordinances. It is a settlement for breaking the law, same thing they did in L.A.- let us leave up the ones put up illegally and we will take down these older trashy signs that would cost us more to repair anyway AND produce less revenue for Clear Channel. Go to www.clearchanneloutdoor.com , click on their rate cards then select El Paso. If a business there in EL Paso can not afford to pay,$4,000 down to $220 for a conventional sign that shows their advertisement 24/7 then someone needs to explain how this same business can afford $5,800 for a digital that only displays the ad every 8 seconds thus is seen by one out of every six drivers? It is the biggest lie the billboard industry has that if they are not allowed digitals then small businesses will go out of business. All prices are for a four week time frame too. The Mayor has been doing his own back room deals without public scrutiny and that is on par for how things are done. Work out the details behind closed doors and then say this is what we have worked out. This deal is so familiar. Some expressed worry that it would be an unfair advantage for Clear Channel and bar smaller billboard companies, well there is an unfair advantage already - who owns the most billboards for trading right now - someone already owns about 80%. Also the ones up were done against ordinances - someone care to show me where it says in your ordinance that digitals are allowed? Chapter and section as ordinances are online at www.municode.com . So the Mayor wants to REWARD those that are put up by rewarding the billboard industry by increasing the number of digitals allowed, saying the 17 up right now are NOW legal because they traded for them - after the ordinance was passed and decreasing to the number that the billboard industry wants to trade 5:1 - their orginal offer last year. So much for compromise - too bad your Mayor is going against the publics wishes. Who do you think will put up 18, 19, 20... a small business billboard company - what are you smoking?
Ted Wu

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Jul 27, 2009
Please fight visual pollution by billboards. Billboards lowers quality of life and are bad for business.
Sad Face

United States

#13 Jul 27, 2009
What a disappointment Mayor Cook has been. Before this last election he appeared to be Pro-El Paso and interested is looking our for what was best for our very provencial City and bringing it to compete with other cities in our peer group. Well the elections are over and now he must pay the Piper.

Ms. Lilly has done so much to improve and protect what is still beautiful in El Paso, from protecting the arroys, to improving the looks of the cell phone towers. She has taken on Golieth and money talks.

Dallas, TX

#14 Jul 27, 2009
why is it that only a handfull of businesses pull more weight then the majority of the population, shame on you mayor !!!!!!


#15 Jul 27, 2009
What a misleading statement, they obviously ignored the statement made in the EP Times, that this issue was about leaving a legacy for Ms Lilley.

People are elected to represent the best interest of the people NOT build legacies. In any case do they really this issue will be in the history books or some plaque posted downtown?
lillys legacy

El Paso, TX

#16 Jul 27, 2009
anne lilly's legacy will be that she had to be nudged to wake up and "second that" ever time byrd wanted.
Just Someone

El Paso, TX

#17 Jul 27, 2009
Ms Byrd-The veto by the Mayor is part of the process. He is an active member in city council. Just because you didn't and won't get your way doesn't mean that we have to change the process. The veto was put there for a reason. If the vote had been 4-4 and the Mayor had broken the tie against the ordinance would you have been alright with that decision? You will never be satisfied until you get your way so keep on with your crusade for a couple more years until we can vote you out of office. Ms. Lilly-it isn't going to pass so move on to something else. How about finishing up with the eyesore you all created when you shut down Asarco. At least when it was open there were some jobs available for the many unemployed that we have here. That problem will be taken care of by council members who probably have not even been born yet. And to the council members who voted against the ordinance-stick to your guns. Going against your previous vote just because you don't like the veto process.
June Kachtik


#18 Jul 27, 2009
I encourage all city council representatives to override the Mayor's veto regarding digital billboards. He is not really addressing citizen concerns about digitals, which are:

1. Digital and all billboards are the opposite of good urban design - they clutter the scenic environment.
2. Digital billboards in particular may be unsafe - the City will not really know until an unbiased study on the federal level comes out in 2010.
3. Digital billboards are big energy consumers - this is against the national trend of energy conservation.

United States

#19 Jul 27, 2009
I sincerely hope the Council will overide the Mayors veto. Signs cost each and every one of us in higher retail costs of goods and services. Thank You
Texas Toast

Huntington Beach, CA

#20 Jul 27, 2009
Digital billboards are unsafe by distracting drivers,and they waste energy.
The number of digital billboards should be limited to less than 30 in the city.
The mayor is looking out for his hide, and not the residents of El Paso.

City council, vote to override the mayor, if you have the spine to do so.

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