City gives group $200,000 for low-inc...

City gives group $200,000 for low-income job training

There are 16 comments on the El Paso Times story from Sep 15, 2009, titled City gives group $200,000 for low-income job training. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

A divided City Council on Tuesday gave $200,000 to a local nonprofit to help train hundreds of low-income residents for jobs in health care, education and technology -- all areas of high need in El Paso.

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Stripe

El Paso, TX

#1 Sep 16, 2009
How about setting the sights a tad higher and shooting for training for "High Paying Jobs"... or wait... better yet... let us attempt to attract higher caliber companies to the area and maybe keep some of the college grads here with higher pay as an incentive...
concerned retired teacher

El Paso, TX

#2 Sep 16, 2009
When the city reduces costs by going to a four day schedule, we applauded; yet we continue to see our tax dollars used for special projects that most other non-profits dig deep into their own pockets and do sweat equity to raise funds to pay the way. We have far too many of them dipping into the property tax moneys to further their own agendas. Stop the insanity and rethink the using our tax dollars for their original intended use. I would like to see a list of every tax dollar "given" away to all non profits and an accounting of all those dollars made public. Just how does the administrative costs break down and specifically who gets how much for the admin costs. Ten percent is even excessive in my mind.
El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#3 Sep 16, 2009
Stripe,

"High Paying Jobs" is exactly what Arriba is all about -- it's the EPT's reporting error. Arriba graduates are teachers RNs, and LVNs, for the most part. The average wage at graduation is in the mid-$30K range, with a clear career path and benefits. A damn sight better than average in El Paso!
Joe

Newcastle, CA

#4 Sep 16, 2009
More freebies for the welfare class, the losers who won't learn English and expect the government to give them everything.

Meanwhile American students get jobs and pay their own tuition.
EPcynic

Glendale, AZ

#5 Sep 16, 2009
Well, that wipes out the $100,000 the city saved with 4 day weeks.
Say What

El Paso, TX

#6 Sep 16, 2009
Joe wrote:
More freebies for the welfare class, the losers who won't learn English and expect the government to give them everything.
Meanwhile American students get jobs and pay their own tuition.
TRUE! Carl Robinson is batting a 1000! Voted against this and the "Domestic Partner" issue. He might sound like he has no idea what he is talking about, but at least he makes good decisions for his district. Thanks Carl! Beto you could learn something.
El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#7 Sep 16, 2009
"Joe" and "Say What" -- Project Arriba's students are English-speaking US citizens (yes, every single one -- ineligible to participate otherwise), attending classes at EPCC and UTEP. They are breaking the hold that poverty has on them and moving into well-paying, private sector jobs. A typical Arriba participant used to be working minimum wage, but graduates earning much more. They are then able to buy a home, pay property tax, and contribute to the local economy.

Maybe you should learn about the project before writing untruthfully about it.

www.projectarriba.org
Here-we-go-again

El Paso, TX

#8 Sep 16, 2009
A contract for $200,000 to a non-profit which is required to graduate a set number of people each year who will join the workforce and become contributing members of the community is much more impressive than throwing away $250k on La Mujer Obrera.
CF Emerson

United States

#9 Sep 16, 2009
El Pasoan wrote:
"Joe" and "Say What" -- Project Arriba's students are English-speaking US citizens (yes, every single one -- ineligible to participate otherwise), attending classes at EPCC and UTEP. They are breaking the hold that poverty has on them and moving into well-paying, private sector jobs. A typical Arriba participant used to be working minimum wage, but graduates earning much more. They are then able to buy a home, pay property tax, and contribute to the local economy.
Maybe you should learn about the project before writing untruthfully about it.
www.projectarriba.org
El Pasoan - maybe the name is the misleading factor "Project Arriba" hmmmm? Yeah that is a typical draw for what ethnic group? Why in it not called "Project Upward Bound"? Yes, a name in english as we are in AMERICA! El Paso is well known for saying one thing and doing something else. My guess is that "Joe" and "Say What" are correct in their reasoning. To go further, I would say these people are probably required to take courses in english, but are mentored in their everyday language with which they "feel more comfortable"(spanish). Another money pit with no return for the "Taxpayers" of EL Paso.
DR Westside

United States

#10 Sep 16, 2009
Another total waste of tax payers money for an elect few. If they want to get ahead let them PAY like every one else. El Paso is full of money grabbing leaches.. Enough of giving our money to special interest groups. Remember, the city works for us, not the other way around. Bird, you're there to represent your constituants not to go with the wishes of the Cook cronies. You should step down and let someone who CAN handle the job take over.
Project Gringo

United States

#11 Sep 16, 2009
How many blacks, whites, or asians have benefited from Project Arriba? I'm guessing zero.

If a similar nonprofit catered only to one of these ethnic groups, it would be called "elitist" and not receive one dollar from the city.
Rey

El Paso, TX

#12 Sep 16, 2009
Robinson asked the only sensible question. He wanted to know what if any penalties were levied against the particpants if they broke the agreement they signed.

The agreement is that they will stay in EP for at least one after completing the training. This is to keep the investment in EP.

Apparently the program is used as a launch to higher paying jobs in other cities so EP gets no return on its investment.

Well after Robinson having to rephrase the question a couple of times, he finally got a straight answer. There are NO penalties for breaking the agreement. Robinson was right when he stated the agreement is a worthless piece of paper.
EPcynic

Glendale, AZ

#13 Sep 16, 2009
Rey wrote:
Robinson asked the only sensible question. He wanted to know what if any penalties were levied against the particpants if they broke the agreement they signed.
The agreement is that they will stay in EP for at least one after completing the training. This is to keep the investment in EP.
Apparently the program is used as a launch to higher paying jobs in other cities so EP gets no return on its investment.
Well after Robinson having to rephrase the question a couple of times, he finally got a straight answer. There are NO penalties for breaking the agreement. Robinson was right when he stated the agreement is a worthless piece of paper.
I don't always agree with Carl Robinson, but I find him to be the most respectable person on City Council. At a minimum he always tries to make Council consider the practical implications of their social experiments.
OutInTheWestTexa sTown

El Paso, TX

#14 Sep 16, 2009
EPcynic wrote:
Well, that wipes out the $100,000 the city saved with 4 day weeks.
I've got to agree. I sure hope that the police and fire departments don't read this and realize that they gave up their pay so the city could give hundreds of thousands of dollars away to a group that will not hold the people they help accountable or be punished for not keeping their end of the bargin.
Go Carl!
Joe

Newcastle, CA

#15 Sep 16, 2009
El Pasoan wrote:
"Joe" and "Say What" -- Project Arriba's students are English-speaking US citizens (yes, every single one -- ineligible to participate otherwise), attending classes at EPCC and UTEP. They are breaking the hold that poverty has on them and moving into well-paying, private sector jobs. A typical Arriba participant used to be working minimum wage, but graduates earning much more. They are then able to buy a home, pay property tax, and contribute to the local economy.
Maybe you should learn about the project before writing untruthfully about it.
www.projectarriba.org
Bull! If this project were for English speaking US citizens, the name itself wouldn't have to be in Spanish. The name of the project would be in English. It's for Mexicans.

The typical American works to pay tuition, or his parents worked and saved money to help pay for tuition.

Not everyone gets handed free college, free day care and free everything else. This IS just another welfare handout.
Joe

Newcastle, CA

#16 Sep 16, 2009
Project Gringo wrote:
How many blacks, whites, or asians have benefited from Project Arriba? I'm guessing zero.
If a similar nonprofit catered only to one of these ethnic groups, it would be called "elitist" and not receive one dollar from the city.
Zero. This is another racist project.

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