Letters: City officials lack common sense

Full story: El Paso Times 18
I have heard of Yenta-men before but not like our mayor, Beto and Steverino. They take the demitasse of common sense. Full Story
pat spence

El Paso, TX

#1 Aug 3, 2010
Michael hart. I am an ex Baptist ( 15 years ) that has come to the True Church that Jesus established. After years of listening to doctrines established by John Smythe, Johm Calvin , Martin luther, and other church reformers.( doctrines that have existed only 500 years) . I started reading the Early Church Father's writings and now know the Truth. Sols Scriptura, Sola Fide, and other new beleifs were never part of their writings, only new ways of thinking. I have really come to Know and Love Christ in a perfect and spirit filled way by receiving Christ in the Eucharist. He tells us to drink His Blood and eat His Body to receive eternal life. The Bible goes on to tell us that many left him after he said this, and I will not leave him. I will only follow Him in His Church. The Holy Catholic Church.
Just Me

El Paso, TX

#2 Aug 3, 2010
I agree with Fernando Pena, except on thinking Rachel Quintana is doing a good job. All of the city council members are big on taxing EVERYTHING!
Trying to have a conversation with Steve is impossible! Thank God we'll be getting rid of Cook soon. Beto is so out of the loop, it's incredible! These guys must stay stoned all the time!
Get Over It

El Paso, TX

#3 Aug 3, 2010
Just Me wrote:
I agree with Fernando Pena, except on thinking Rachel Quintana is doing a good job. All of the city council members are big on taxing EVERYTHING!
Trying to have a conversation with Steve is impossible! Thank God we'll be getting rid of Cook soon. Beto is so out of the loop, it's incredible! These guys must stay stoned all the time!
I doubt that you have watched a single second of any of the budget hearings. This Council is doing all that they can to avoid raising the tax rate, including Beto and Steve. Please expand on what "taxes" have been raised. It should be easy if they are so big on taxing "everything". And by the way, red light cameras, bridge fees, and increased fees for the zoo are not taxes, as many other blathering conservatives have opined recently on this website. They are penalties and fees for law infractions and services that you don't have to pay for if you choose not to break the law or use those services.
WWW

United States

#4 Aug 3, 2010
pat spence wrote:
Michael hart. I am an ex Baptist ( 15 years ) that has come to the True Church that Jesus established. After years of listening to doctrines established by John Smythe, Johm Calvin , Martin luther, and other church reformers.( doctrines that have existed only 500 years). I started reading the Early Church Father's writings and now know the Truth. Sols Scriptura, Sola Fide, and other new beleifs were never part of their writings, only new ways of thinking. I have really come to Know and Love Christ in a perfect and spirit filled way by receiving Christ in the Eucharist. He tells us to drink His Blood and eat His Body to receive eternal life. The Bible goes on to tell us that many left him after he said this, and I will not leave him. I will only follow Him in His Church. The Holy Catholic Church.
Wouldn't it be funny if jesus was not christ? All of you BS assessments and emotional and non-rational rants are nothing more than you believing a myth. By the way, there is nothing holy about the catholic religion. That church is nothing more than a murderous cult that has killed millions of human beings throughout its history and will continue to do so. And this is what the spirit of christ teaches you? Fool.
Rey

AOL

#5 Aug 3, 2010
Taxes as a term have been replaced with fees and surcharges.

Before heaping praise on the two aforementioned, you have to ask WHO created this budget mess? Being political opportunists, of course they will go thru the charade of being concerned with the budget.

Where was the concern when THEY KNEW that the money wasnt there last year and wasnt going to be here this year? Why didnt the pet projects stop or at least delay them? No planning, budgeting or priortizing was used, it was spend and spend. MANY of the projects were just wastful, to gather political support for THEMSELVES, some of the council members.

Does 16 million in DEFICITS, 70 million in Certs and trouble with thwe budget this year, ring a ring? Does that sound like these two were concerned then?
Bobby

El Paso, TX

#6 Aug 3, 2010
Get Over It, you are a blathering liberal moron.

I guess spending 23 million dollars to beautify 2 international bridges, making loans with tax payers money, and painting buses at a cost of 1.3 million are a few things that libs like you think are necessary services.
here is how

El Paso, TX

#7 Aug 3, 2010
Get Over It wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt that you have watched a single second of any of the budget hearings. This Council is doing all that they can to avoid raising the tax rate, including Beto and Steve. Please expand on what "taxes" have been raised. It should be easy if they are so big on taxing "everything". And by the way, red light cameras, bridge fees, and increased fees for the zoo are not taxes, as many other blathering conservatives have opined recently on this website. They are penalties and fees for law infractions and services that you don't have to pay for if you choose not to break the law or use those services.
my property now pays 12,000 a year in stormwater fees while my property tax is 48,000. thats a raise in property tax of 25 percent. all that happened was the street department and its head guys were moved to the psb stormwater. where is the surplus money that should be in the budget since the street department doesnt have to worry about drainage anymore. why are they building a park in saipan when they should have just built a large retention pond just in case the one above the freeway needs to release water again then it has somewhere to go. the soccer fields could have still been there. just high banked sides would allow a more stadium approach to view. during monsoon season they would be out of commission for a few weeks but so what. look how much extra money they put into that park when they didnt have the money to do it. stupid spending on a park that will probably rarely be used.
See the truth

United States

#8 Aug 3, 2010
Guns from the United States are making their way into Mexico and are coming from Gun Shows, shady gun store owners and from gangs that steal guns. To think otherwise is not being honest.

Also, the reason why there is all this gang activity on the streets of America and drug gangs on the border with America is because America can't live without their daily fix of illegal drugs. It is American dollars that is causing this nightmare to continue. Seems to me that the sickness is on our side of the border.

Now I suppose I will get comments about me being a sick liberal, anti-American or whatever other terminology a radio or TV talking head might be using these days to keep their gun toten/drug using herd gathered together, but the truth is the truth - even if you don't want to see it.
Frank

El Paso, TX

#9 Aug 3, 2010
See the truth wrote:
Guns from the United States are making their way into Mexico and are coming from Gun Shows, shady gun store owners and from gangs that steal guns. To think otherwise is not being honest.
Also, the reason why there is all this gang activity on the streets of America and drug gangs on the border with America is because America can't live without their daily fix of illegal drugs. It is American dollars that is causing this nightmare to continue. Seems to me that the sickness is on our side of the border.
Now I suppose I will get comments about me being a sick liberal, anti-American or whatever other terminology a radio or TV talking head might be using these days to keep their gun toten/drug using herd gathered together, but the truth is the truth - even if you don't want to see it.
What PROOF do you have of your claims?

Indicate a link or two stating facts on your accusations.
Follow up

United States

#10 Aug 3, 2010
Gun smuggling into Mexico, there are hundreds of stories, many with specific busts or Evidence tracking guns back to the U.S. Many stories dating back many years.

NY Times May 19, 2001 US Guns smuggled into Mexico
CNN March 26, 2008 Smuggling deadly cargo Cop Killing guns.
NY Times April 14, 2009 US stymied as Guns flow to Mexico.

I suggest for those that don't believe to not just keep saying ""show the links". Maybe you should look up your own links. The truth is out there is you can handle it.
wizkid

El Paso, TX

#11 Aug 3, 2010
No Triple A for El Taxo! We can't even hang on to a double A club. El Paso is a Pitiful Toilet and will never change as long as we keep electing these utter FOOLS as city leaders.
Concerned Dem

Plano, TX

#12 Aug 3, 2010
Where were all these tea party groups 8 years ago, when the GOP was racking up this bill for our National dept?
Selling of guns

United States

#13 Aug 3, 2010
Many of the guns smuggled into Mexico are sold at gun shows by unlicensed gun sellers. There is no way to track these sales and that is why all the pro gun people say "prove it" when they know the only proof is a confession when somebody is caught. Just a big game being played here.
tea partier

El Paso, TX

#14 Aug 3, 2010
we were complaining then, too. the problem is the democrats only offered obama and hillary. we wanted a ross perot type. run the government like a business and not a f__ucking charity.
FROMTHEBLOGOSPHE RE

El Paso, TX

#15 Aug 3, 2010
From Peace Through War/"Obama's Afghan Formula"
By Ralph Nader

This is an asymmetrical, multi-matrix war. It is a war defined by complex intrigue, shifting alliances, mutating motivations, chronic bribery, remotely-generated civilian deaths, insuperable barriers of language and ethnic and subtribal conflicts. It is fought by warlords, militias, criminal gangs, and special forces discretionary death squads. Millions of civilians are impoverished, terrified and live with violent disruptions. There is no central government to speak of. The White House uses illusions of strategies and tactics to bid for time. In Afghanistan, the historic graveyard of invaders, hope springs infernal.

Neatly dressed Generals—who probably would never have gotten into this mess if they, not the civilian neocon, draft dodgers in the Bush regime, had made the call—regularly trudge up to Congress to testify. There they caveat their status reports, keeping expectations alive, while cowardly politicians praise their bravery. General David Petraeus could receive the Academy Award in Hollywood next year, as long as he doesn't say what he really thinks, obedient soldier that he is. Listen to General Stanley A. McChrystal, not known for his squeamishness. Speaking of civilian deaths and injured at military checkpoints, he said: "We have shot an amazing number of people, but to my knowledge, none have ever proven to be a threat."

On the ground are 100,000 U.S. soldiers with another 100,000 corporate contractors. The human and economic costs are huge. According to the CIA, James Jones—Obama's national security adviser—and other officials, there are only 50 to 100 Al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan and 300 to 400 members of the group in Pakistan. The rest have scattered to other nations or just melded back into the population. Affiliates of Al Qaeda have emerged in the southern Arabian peninsula, Somalia, North Africa, Indonesia and other locales. There is something awry about this asymmetry.

In early 2001, George W. Bush awarded the Taliban $40 million for stamping out the poppy trade; now Afghanistan is the number one narco grower in the world. U.S. soldiers walk right past the poppy fields so as not to turn the locals against them.

U.S. dollars pay warlords and the Taliban in order for them not to blow up U.S. conveys going through mountain passes, some carrying fuel that costs taxpayers $400 per delivered gallon. The Taliban receive half the electricity from a U.S. built power plant and collect the monthly electric bills in their controlled areas. The more electricity, the more money for the Taliban to fight the American and British soldiers

Last year, over three billion dollars in cash moved out of Kabul's airport unaccounted for, while billions of US dollars flow into Kabul for undocumented purposes.

Furthermore, nothing will happen without a few million Americans back home stomping, marching and bellowing to end the boomeranging, costly invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and concentrate on America’s needs at home.
Walter Whiteman

El Paso, TX

#16 Aug 3, 2010
Concerned Dem wrote:
Where were all these tea party groups 8 years ago, when the GOP was racking up this bill for our National dept?
Exactly!
wandering in the darkness

El Paso, TX

#17 Aug 3, 2010
Concerned Dem wrote:
Where were all these tea party groups 8 years ago, when the GOP was racking up this bill for our National dept?
Walter Whiteman wrote:
Exactly!

I many ways they were not voting for Republicans, look at what happened in 2006.

You both need to be honest though, while spending was out of control during the Bush Administration memebers of the Democrat party were not voting against any of those spending bills. I've written before, for the first six years of his administration George W. Bush was the best friend the Democrats had, he say no, or veto anything except stem cells.
Finally, look at the deficts the first two years of this adiminstration they far and away eclipse any of the Bush era, last years 1.2-1.4 trillon which contained Tarp and the Stimulus is one thing, this years' has neither large ticket items and is on pace to match or eclipse last years' largest deficit in history. I'll ask what is all that money being spent on?!?
Sal

El Paso, TX

#18 Aug 3, 2010
Walter Whiteman wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly!
Sorry Liberal Walter Whiteman. You are wrong again.

The dems have controlled congress for almost 4 years and have increased the debt every year. Yes, Bush was president for 8 yrs but the last 2 were with a dem. congress.

For those that doubt that the Democrats and Obama are not increasing the national debt at a tremendous rate; appease me, educate yourselves and watch this short clip explaining the national debt and where it is going.

It a great explanation.

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