Despite racist quote, Lincoln did the...

Despite racist quote, Lincoln did the right thing

There are 77 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Mar 29, 2009, titled Despite racist quote, Lincoln did the right thing. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Regarding the letter, 'Lincoln quote shows a side of president we may not know about,' , regarding President Obama's admiration for President Lincoln despite the fact that Lincoln said in his speech at Charleston, Ill., that he was 'not in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office ....' I would like to add ...

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Asheville Citizen-Times.

First Prev
of 4
Next Last

“Obama = One & Done”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#64 Apr 13, 2010
Ghost Dog wrote:
all traitors should be shot or hung!
For once we agree. I'm just hopeful I will read the announcement of your demise in time to attend.
Ghost Dog

Brookings, SD

#65 Apr 13, 2010
WilltardLimpwoodHartmutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Dan, you are so right about this. But you will never get the crackers, rightards, kluckers, re-enactors, and 21st Century Johnny Rebs to go along with you. They still want to fight the Civil War, even after they have been ignominiously defeated.
The idiots out in Oklahoma, the "State Legislature" are talking of putting in a resolution calling for an "armed state militia" to take on the Federal Government, talk about stupid, stupid, stupid, but hey, McVeigh was linked to one of their militias and Oral Roberts has run Tulsa for over 50 years, so stupid is as stupid does. I say, bring it on, I would love to see that Okee Militia take on a Ranger Battalion, that would be so much fun!
I hate Ignorance

West Des Moines, IA

#67 May 16, 2010
I just find all the negative comments not only wrong but ignorant... Grow the up and care about who your neighbors are and judge them on how they treat you... Why judge a person for race? stupidity!!!! America is a Wonderful but sick place. Who cares what Lincoln thought he dead! Can he help you now? no!!! Who cares if the president is now black!!! move on! Bush was an idiot! People need to think before they speak!!!
Chris M Gaines

Chicago, IL

#68 Jan 24, 2014
Mr Owl 1939 wrote:
Our allegiance, myself and a lot of others, is to the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES and not to socialism. It is socialism and the socialists who promote socialism that are dangerous to the CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC our founding fathers handed to us and they were not progressives by any stretch of the definition or imagination. They were CONSTITUTIONALISTS and despisers of tyranny. They knew about tyranny, living as British subjects under the various tyrannical kings and queens. We Constitutionalists are not the ones who have done great harm to this country. We love this country as a Constitutional Republic and by the voting system are going to take our country back from the socialists. Everyone who wants can be a part of this. I know I deviated from the original subject of this thread but frankly I am not concerned what has happened as much as I am concerned about what is happening and the future of this country .
Interesting comments you must admit. This debate is on going still obviously.
Chris M Gaines

Chicago, IL

#69 Jan 24, 2014
William P Miller wrote:
"Lincoln did the right thing" by invading the South,having Sherman and Sheridan murder rape steal and burn family farms in the South? All so he could take 50% of the South's GNP in taxes?
Lincoln was not only a racist, he was a white-supremist racist. The war had nothing to do with slavery. It was all about centralized Washington power and MONEY.
"
Abraham Lincoln Quote
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:
Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)
Words do matter obviously. Truthful words are powerful and real history proves it.

"Money is the root of ALL evil" Fact.
Real History

Chicago, IL

#71 Jan 25, 2014
Lincoln Was Savvy wrote:
Yes, he pulled off a few scams and worked both sides. But he will be remembered for the Gettysburg Address, the Emancipation Proclamation, and the Thirteenth Amendment. The man was a political genius. In law, he said, the black people of the USA were entitled to equal rights. Does anyone deny that? Sure you do. Even yet the principles of equality and equal rights under the law are violated in the courts. Hell, they're violated without a second thought against white folks too, and the most monstrous legal fictions are guarantees of appellate review.
We may have to fight another war to let our politicians know we are not going to tolerate tyranny in government, our courts infested with scurvy politicians, and our legislatures and governor's mansions occupied by bands of thieves.
__________
U.S. Constitution › 13th Amendment
13th Amendment
Amendment XIII
Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Excellent points. What do you think abou the Union soldiers tradition of drinking and making "Democrats" at that time..to be FORCED to kneel in public and take the "loayality oaths"? Or shot in the back if they attemted to run away? Justification of "The Charleston Riot"? Was/Is violence like this wrong then like it is today concerning our current government? Will another civil war be in our future as a nation? Is a revolution on our horizons? What event or action will ignite it this time?
Loyalty Oaths

Chicago, IL

#72 Jan 25, 2014
* forced loyalty oaths... 

1851-1877January 29, 1864
Senator Resigns to Protest Loyalty Oath James A. Bayard Oath-taking by newly elected members of Congress continues a constitutional rite that is as old as the Republic. While this practice dates from a simple 14-word statement enacted by the First Congress in 1789, the current oath is a product of the 1860s—drafted by Civil War-era members of Congress intent on ensnaring traitors.The original oath served nicely for nearly three-quarters of a century. By 1861, however, the outbreak of the Civil War gave particular urgency to the previously routine act of oath-taking. At a time of uncertain and shifting loyalties, President Abraham Lincoln ordered all federal civilian personnel within the executive branch to take an expanded oath. By 1862, members of Congress who believed the Union had more to fear from northern traitors than southern soldiers enacted the so-called Ironclad Test Oath. Added to the first oath, this text required civil servants and military officers to swear not only to future loyalty but also to affirm that they had never previously engaged in disloyal conduct.Although Congress did not initially extend the 1862 Test Oath to its own members, many took it voluntarily. Angered by those senators such as Delaware Democrat James A. Bayard who refused this symbolic act, Massachusetts Republican Charles Sumner engineered a January 25, 1864, rules change making the Test Oath mandatory for all senators.Senator Bayard contended that the Test Oath ignored the president's pardoning power. Looking ahead to the postwar era, he warned that the Test Oath would block any southern senator-elect who arrived in the Senate with a presidential pardon and a certificate of election. If he took the oath, swearing no past disloyalty to the Union, he would perjure himself; if he refused the oath, he would not be seated. The Delaware senator also feared that this oath set a dangerous precedent, as future congresses could add other limiting requirements related to past behavior, requiring, for instance, that senators swear to their temperance, chastity, and monogamy. Bayard took the oath on January 29, 1864, and then immediately resigned in protest.In 1868, Congress exempted southerners from the Test Oath by creating an alternate vow, the language of which was nearly identical to today's pledge. Northerners angrily pointed to the new law's unfair double standard of requiring loyal Unionists to take the harsh Test Oath while ex-Confederates were offered the less-demanding 1868 version. Finally, in 1884, a new generation of lawmakers quietly repealed the deeply inflaming wartime oath.
ApePeeD

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#73 Jan 26, 2014
Chris M Gaines wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting comments you must admit. This debate is on going still obviously.
DEAD thread troll.
Chris M Gaines

Chicago, IL

#74 Jan 26, 2014
ApePeeD wrote:
<quoted text>
DEAD thread troll.
Umm...No Mr. Troll. I beg to differ..lol. Its very relevant information(more so currently than most threads here for most people reading this site obviously)and very interesting to me and very a important debate to me on these issues in this thread, considering the upcoming 150th Anniversary of "The Charleston Riot" is scheduled very soon on March 28-30,2014 on the courthouse square in Charleston, Il. I live on the square. Its my block. The REAL history concerning it is of interest to me obviously. If you don't find it interesting..I have started numerous other threads here on every CONCEIVABLE "Topix" I find relevant and important to me and others here on Topix.com Your welcome for the time and information I've shared here in the past year or so btw. Its REAL history. All truthful words and easy to verify information I have provided to the public here. Information that wont ever be available in mainstream media or published regular history books or closed sources of information. Duh. Winning! lol

You appear more like a "troll" here than me..DUH!...lol Winning! Lmao, as my brother Charlie Sheen would say. Understand?
Chris M Gaines

Chicago, IL

#75 Jan 26, 2014
* a very..not "very a"
ApePeeD

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#76 Jan 27, 2014
Chris M Gaines wrote:
* a very..not "very a"
PRAISE JESUS AMEN YES!
Chris M Gaines

Chicago, IL

#77 Jan 27, 2014
ApePeeD wrote:
<quoted text>
PRAISE JESUS AMEN YES!
I'm confused I guess. Are you praising our Lord Jesus because I corrected my typo mistake from my previous comment? lol Or what? Your being kinda vauge. Help us in this audience better understand your comment. Jesus..I'm positive would love you more for that as well. God Bless.
lol

Go Green!
It's the new Gold!
ApePeeD

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#78 Jan 27, 2014
Chris M Gaines wrote:
Go Green!
It's the new Gold!
As long as it's the green of a dollar bill, then yes.
Chris M Gaines

Chicago, IL

#79 Jan 27, 2014
ApePeeD wrote:
<quoted text>
As long as it's the green of a dollar bill, then yes.
No. Its marijuana. Duh. lol
Chris M Gaines

Charleston, IL

#80 Jan 27, 2014
Jesus used cannabis oil to anoint people. Google that America and put in your pipe and smoke it..lol

Go Jesus!
Go Green!
Chris M Gaines

Chicago, IL

#81 Jan 27, 2014
world news

Jesus 'healed using cannabis'

Monday 6 January 2003 4:20 PM CST
Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles

Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings.The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims."There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic religion," Carl Ruck, professor of classical mythology at Boston University said.Referring to the existence of cannabis in anointing oils used in ceremonies, he added: "Obviously the easy availability and long-established tradition of cannabis in early Judaism _ would inevitably have included it in the [Christian] mixtures."Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the oils used by Jesus were "literally drenched in this potent mixture _ Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin".Quoting the New Testament, Mr Bennett argues that Jesus anointed his disciples with the oil and encouraged them to do the same with other followers. This could have been responsible for healing eye and skin diseases referred to in the Gospels."If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil _ and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ," Mr Bennett concludes.
Unfiltered Reality

Chicago, IL

#82 Feb 3, 2014
Enemy Combatants | Who is really "terrorizing" who here? Us or them? Look in the mirror..what do you see? Be honest with yourself. Are you the enemy or a patriot? USA Law enforcement member or gang member? USA Military soldier or paid killer of innocent civilians? Murderer or paid killer? Crazy or 'normal'? Jesus or Satan? The lines can be confusing for some to understand around you or within your own mind. Are you my brother or my enemy? Who am i? Are we connected as humans? Do we all share our world equally? Is life fair? Do we have any real enemies in this world or other worlds around us or do we(through being manipulated by government mind control operations) create(manufacture) our own fear in our minds from an enemy within it, do we justify our fear and need for protection from whatever or whoever are labeled the 'enemy'? What is your reality? Are you the enemy or my friend? You decide? Or them?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 4
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Quincy Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Quincyans suck major balls (Oct '09) 23 hr ThereWillBJustice 22
Andrew Campbell Mon Coronado Ambrose 1
Todd Rost aka "The Small Claims King" Mon Coronado Ambrose 1
Quincyinjustice Mar 26 Nojusticeinquincyil 9
DWI Attorney's (Jul '13) Mar 25 BadAttorney 3
quincy illinois crooked pray 4 quincy il Mar 25 Injustice4all2 3
Eliminate Quincy Mar 24 QCY SUX 1

Quincy Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Quincy Mortgages