Adultery at the Copper Basin YMCA

[Former Director]

Iam ready to defend myself...I will no longer sit back and let all of you gossip about my life....

Anyone....???? What else do you people have to say???? Maybe finally realized that your own life needs working on??? I do know for a fact that some of you talking about me have your own marital problems.....why dont you focus on your own life and fix your marriage or get out...dont be jealous because I did just that.

[Former Director]

Thank you Former Y user....
It is nice to see and hear from decent people around the community. An actual REAL person.
I thank you dearly for your comment

[Mormon Mommy]

I think anyone's life could be made into a TV movie of the week. All of us have things that we may wish to do over or even just simply forget ever happened. It's unfortunate that people feel the need to remind us of our imperfections. As for Former Director: I don't know or care to know the details of your story (as it is none of my business) however, I certainly do wish you and all the people effected by this situation an opportunity to heal and move forward in your lives.

[Former Director]

I have moved forward in my life and so has my family. It is the people in my community that have nothing better to do then to sit around and continue to have conversations or comments about me. I am extremely touched that so many people find my life so interesting. And you are exactly right. It is none of your business and NONE of anyone elses. Thats how it should have been from the start. I just get extremely frustrated to have so many people and religious ones at that think they can judge me or my life. No one can judge me. Our community is full of Hippocrites. So thank you for comment. You are exactly right, anyones life can be made into a TV show. I would just like anyone who reads these post to take a BIG LONG look at themselves and OPEN YOUR OWN CLOSET......I could almost bet that flowers and bumble bees wont be flying out.....Think of that. Everyone has a crap load of skeletons or two.....think of that before any of you want to open your mouths about other people....No ones perfect.....no one. And if you think you are...then I would like to meet you....not even Jesus was perfect.

[Mormon Mommy]

I understand and appreciate your comments. I've relocated to the Queen Creek area (within the past year)and stumbled upon this site the other day while trying to research the YMCA. While living here in QC, I've been lucky enough to meet nice and kind people, but I'm sure every city has it's fill of those who pass judgement.

Anyway, there are so many things in this life that I don't understand but the one thing I truly know for sure is... We all stumble through this life doing the best we can with what we know. I'm sure you've learned from this experience and grown stronger because of the trials you've had to endure. I am happy to hear you've moved on and I wish the same to everyone involved or effected.

Thanks for letting me comment. May we all learn to speak more kindly to one another.

[Former Director]

I appreciate your comments. I am sorry if I came across as being defensive, but with all this you have to understand where I am coming from. Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[teacher]

I agree that people should mind their own business because most likely they have no room to talk. However, aren't you encouraging people to stay in your business? For example, on April 17th you posted "Anymore Takers????" You have stated your side and people have been sympathetic- Let it go- This started back in September- 8 months ago!!!!

[Mormon Mommy]

To "Former Director": I understand completely. We've all been unfairly judged for one reason or another at some point in our lives. Ignorant criticism is both hurtful and damaging.

I don't mean to make light of adultery because it is a serious issue and not something I condone or excuse. However, you sound like a good person who probably made a bad choice. Hey... who of us hasn't done that, am I right? Before you know it, this whole thing will blow over and someone else will be the new target of verbal attacks.

Like I tell my kids, the important thing to remember is... resist the urge to verbally battle with those who have hurt you. Opinions will never be changed by force. Plus, you know what they say, "The best revenge is living well".

[Former Director]

I absolutly agree with " Mormon Mommy" I love the quote "resist the urge to verbally battle with those who have hurt you. Opinions will never be changed by force." Sometimes it is hard to resist...when you want to stick up for yourself...and I also dont agree with adultery..that is what no one on this site understands. I dont feel that I need to explain on my part any further. This is what was so frustrating that people wanted and felt the need to make up their own conclusions of my life. Without the whole true story. And as for " The Teacher" I have tried to let it go. Yes, I did write "any takers"...because as to my surprise, I was trying to move on with my life and when I stummbled across this we site I was mortified that people felt it was their business to post my life on here as a topic they felt they needed to make public. I am asking you... is this right? Of course I commented back in my own defense...this was so unreal to me as I WOULD never butt my nose in anyones business. So I have let it go...I am just amazed on what I see or hear on a daily basis....and yes this site does have comments from 8 months ago...but did you not see the recent ones? I was ready with my dukes up waiting to finally have the chance to defend myself....I DO HAVE THAT RIGHT. So I dont appreciate that comment of letting it go. I felt that I finally could explain my part and not let the community of gossip talkers felt they could bring down my spirit. I do though appreciate "Mormon Mommy" you seem to be very wise and I appreciate you not judging me. I do think I am a good person and I think I am an excellent mom. Thank you for your kind words. Happy Mothers day to you.

[Former Director]

To the Teacher.....did you not see the comments dated March and April...
Now can you fairly tell me to let it go? I feel as long as people want to visit this site and make comments about my life that is a lie and let it continue till now...I have the right to comment right back on the defensive, after all...all of you are making opionions about someones life that started from a community full of nosey people. FULL OF THEIR OWN LIES AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO ADD ON TO THE LIES TO MAKE IT MORE JUICY EVERTIME IN WENT IN AND OUT OF SOMEONES MOUTH.....

[Former Director]

I will let it go when I visit this site and see that no one cares to comment on MY LIFE ANYMORE and put it all to rest. As long as people feel the need to comment about things they truly dont know about...I will feel the need to talk back in my own defense until it all comes to an End....as I am sure you would do the same.

Thank you all

[teacher]

I am sorry you were offended by my comments. I do agree that this should not have been made a public issue. I feel sad you are consumed with this. You stated that you were over this but you respond even when no one has made a reply. I do understand your need to defend yourself but after awhile why do you care what people think? Unfortunately, there is always going to be a critic. Stop reading the posts and/or responding and I am sure this will go away. I go to the Y often (and not because I am a fat ass or because my life sucks)and I have not once heard gossip of this "affair" so people are not as interested in your life as you think. There are only a couple posts that were really negative towards you- the rest appear to be in support of you! I am truly in support of you- Spend your time reading other things- happy things!!! This will be my last post because I want it to get to the point where there will be no more posts for you to read :)

[myself]

Offended by Disgusted wrote:

He who has not sinned, cast the first stone... You, Ms. or Mr. Disgusted are an evil judgemental hypocrite! You are not God--- you are not judge---you are not jury. It isn't your place to point the finger at others. How dare you post private details about someone elses personal life. You make me sick!

speaking of being sick apparently you think this is ok to do and must be doing it yourself so shame on you and there is no god otherwise he would put a stop to this right yeh think with your own mind dont let some preacher tell you how to think and by the way dont forget to tell your husband about your affair

[CANADIAN LOOKING IN]

WOW. UNBELIEVABLE! SO MUCH JUDGMENT, PROBABLY SO LITTLE FACTS. BESIDES, WAS THIS AFFECTING THE WORKING OR DUTIES OF THESE PEOPLE, ARE THEY VOTED IN LIKE PUBLIC OFFICE?
I AM FROM CANADA, LOOKING TO MOVE PART TIME UPON MY RETIREMENT FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. I WORK IN AN ORGANIZATION WHERE I HAVE SCENE AND EXPERIENCED PETTINESS, PREJUDICED FIRST HAND, MOST INNUENDOS.
PLEASE, KEEP OUT OF OTHER PERSONS BUSINESS UNLESS IT DIRECTLY INVOLVES YOU!

[Former Director]

WOW... Thank you "CANADIAN LOOKING IN" I revisit this site every so often just out of curiousity to see if this all finally has truly ended. It actually brought tears to my eyes to read kind words and from a real person at that. Thank you...just reading this has made my day.

[QC Mom]

If it is any consolation, I live in QC, we attend the Y, and I couldn't care less about whatever it was that happened.

As long as business gets done and life goes on--who cares? If someone was messing around with my husband (or rather, if my husband elected to mess around with someone--seduction my ass--it would be our problem). I don't see why these people have to get picked on. I mean, this is Nathaniel Hawthorne stuff. What is this? The 17th century?

(Note to QC residents: pinning letters to people for public hummiliation over "sins" is quite passe--even if it is a digital letter...oh, and we don't burn witches anymore, either. Just a quick FYI. It's considered rude.)

WHY is this so high on the Google list when I Google "Copper Basin YMCA"? It is positively surreal!

[Former Director]

Thank you!!

[Red Rag]

Sounds like.....SIN CITY !!!!

[take the C our of YMCA]

Want to talk about a christina orginazation! I ran into Tanner (the guy that taught kickboxing) at the Chandler mall. Turns out he was fired after he dislocated his arm while teaching a class at the Y. What the heck is going on with the Y!?!?!? I stumbled onto this website while trying to find the phone number and had no idea all of this stuff was going on. Sounds like a "top down" organization problem. Does anyone know who or where we can report this stuff? Doesn't sound like very christian things are going on at this place...

[Queen Creek Resident]

The problem with all of this is...people exactly like YOU...." Take the C out of our YMCA" It is people like you that feel the need to report EVERYTHING, when in fact you all should keep to your own business and let other people sort out their own problems without the community getting involved. All you are reading is people who didnt have anything else to do with their boring lives then to put other peoples business on the internet. I get so furious when I com across issues on the net like this. It has nothing to do with you. And as for Tanner, I also know him and there is WAY more to the story then he shared. This is exactly how rumors and gossip start people who stick their noses in where they shouldnt. Take some advice and keep to yourself. Or put yourself in anyone of these directors position, would you like peopl freely commenting on false accusations about you???? I bet you wouldnt. But here we go again with all you Christians who want to act like you walk a pure life. You have no right to judge. And if anyone of these persons are religious or if you even are for that matter should know that only Jesus can judge and forgive all you other hippocrites in the community especially Lifepoint Church have NO SAY OR RIGHT TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT ANYONE....I dont think we read the same bible. Take that to bed with you. You are awful. Worry about yourself...not the YMCA or Tanners issues. Get your facts straight first. If everyone got their facts straight before they commented on these poor directors...this site wouldnt even be a site. I know the directors personally from when they worked at the Y, and they were not treated right. People didnt know the story and still dont...but they sure do speak on it. Just mind your own damn self.