the good old boy system triumps again

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uh oh

Quanah, TX

#1 Sep 27, 2012
this town will never change. The DAin vernon is now in the good old boy system for Quanah.
Uh No

Quanah, TX

#2 Sep 27, 2012
uh oh wrote:
this town will never change. The DAin vernon is now in the good old boy system for Quanah.
This comment is not from the original uh oh. At least there was a guilty plea with consequences. How the perpetrator follows the conditions is yet to be seen.
Gpd76

Bowie, TX

#3 Sep 27, 2012
This s a great day! Finally one of the good old boys being held to count.

What I understan is he has to do 6 years probation for a felony and pay a $5000 fine. Ouch. Also, I heard he has to go to drug counseling AND wear some kind of GPS dvice.

Never thouht I'd see it happen.

Where are all those now who said it would be swept under the rug? Or that it would be a misdermenor?
JoyJoy

Bowie, TX

#4 Sep 27, 2012
Looks like he just made the paper in Wichita Falls. lol! With a picture and everything. Shame shame!

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2012/sep/...

WICHITA FALLS — A former Quanah city council member was sentenced to probation Wednesday afternoon in the 46th Judicial District Court in Quanah.

Steven Tim Williams, 51, of Quanah, was sentenced to seven years’ probation following his plea of guilty to recklessly causing injury to an elderly individual while driving while intoxicated, a state jail felony.

On Feb. 19, Williams, who was then serving on the Quanah City Council, was driving an all-terrain vehicle down a residential street in Quanah when his vehicle crashed into two individuals and an automobile parked on the side of the street. The victims, Matt Martin and Norma Trolinder, were standing beside the vehicle and Martin was thrown onto the hood of the ATV while Trolinder was pushed under an automobile. The tire of the vehicle rolled over Trolinder’s leg causing her injuries.

The Hardeman County Sheriff’s Office responded to a 911 call for assistance and arrived at the scene shortly after the accident. A mandatory blood draw was taken from Williams, revealing a blood alcohol level of .15, nearly twice the legal limit. Because Trolinder is over the age of 65, District Attorney Staley Heatly filed the case against Williams as injury to an elderly.

Williams, who had no prior criminal history, was ordered to wear a secured continuous remote alcohol monitor (SCRAM) that will monitor any consumption of alcohol. He was also ordered to pay a fine of $2,000 and complete 100 hours of community service.
flippin joke

Van Nuys, CA

#5 Sep 27, 2012
Gpd76 wrote:
This s a great day! Finally one of the good old boys being held to count.
What I understan is he has to do 6 years probation for a felony and pay a $5000 fine. Ouch. Also, I heard he has to go to drug counseling AND wear some kind of GPS dvice.
Never thouht I'd see it happen.
Where are all those now who said it would be swept under the rug? Or that it would be a misdermenor?
lol-get a clue.
he will pay the fine because thats traceable.
how many of those community service hours will be marked as "helping around the courthouse" or city hall?
the one that really needs to be held accountable is the one who dismiss`s his probation early.
i wonder who that could be.
Uh No

Quanah, TX

#6 Sep 27, 2012
May I suggest that Mr. Williams spend 100 volunteer hours cleaning up our city.....clearing vacant and overgrown lots, demolishing falling down houses and clearing the lots they set on, keeping the sidewalks along 287 cleaned and edged....plenty for him to do. He might even grow to like what he is doing and keep it up after 100 hrs. A sign on each property to read..."clean up by S. Williams to improve Quanah.....Help make Quanah better by keeping your neighborhood clean and well maintained." It is always a positive when something bad can be turned to something good.
flippin idiots

Weatherford, TX

#7 Sep 27, 2012
People that think someone should have to go to prison on their first crime when (1) they did not do it on purpose, and (2) no one was seriously hurt, are COMPLETE idiots.

Our prisons are full of people. Those that are non-violent should get a second chance with strict terms of release.

Idiot above, please explain to me why this man should have to go to prison?
Realityczech

United States

#8 Sep 27, 2012
Listen folks, watch the news from time to time. You will see times when a drunk driver kills someone and gets probation or not charged at all. Yeah, sometimes they get a lotta time and sometimes they get none. And Thats when someone is dead. No one in this wrecke got hurt serious. The law isnt based on "well, he coulda killed someone."When. Dont work that way. If you didnt kill someone than you dont get punished for that.
flippin joke

Van Nuys, CA

#9 Sep 27, 2012
flippin idiots wrote:
People that think someone should have to go to prison on their first crime when (1) they did not do it on purpose, and (2) no one was seriously hurt, are COMPLETE idiots.
Our prisons are full of people. Those that are non-violent should get a second chance with strict terms of release.
Idiot above, please explain to me why this man should have to go to prison?
i didnt say he should go to prison but if someone waves his probation early or signs off on community service that wasnt completed then they should be charged accordingly.
it is sad though that he had an accident the very first time he drove drunk though.

Since: Jul 11

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#10 Sep 27, 2012
well we get our good da think for this, he changed everythiing at the last minute is what i was told,he told victims one thing and backd down and changed at the last minute. and our good county attorney doesn't want to file dwi charges, figure that. if this would have been anyone else they would have hung them out to dry. guess it pays to be elite and have money in this town.
Uh No

Quanah, TX

#11 Sep 27, 2012
flippin joke wrote:
<quoted text>i didnt say he should go to prison but if someone waves his probation early or signs off on community service that wasnt completed then they should be charged accordingly.
it is sad though that he had an accident the very first time he drove drunk though.
I think you were jesting on your last statement but just for the record....statistics show that by the time someone is arrested for DWI they have driven intoxicated over 80 times. Law of averages....sooner or later something bad happens.
flippin joke

Van Nuys, CA

#12 Sep 27, 2012
Uh No wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you were jesting on your last statement but just for the record....statistics show that by the time someone is arrested for DWI they have driven intoxicated over 80 times. Law of averages....sooner or later something bad happens.
80 times,well thats just insane.in less of course the law isnt doing their job but of course that cant be the case.
saying someone drives drunk in quanah is like saying you can buy drugs in every neighborhood in quanah.
thats perpos...
propost...
preposter...
REDICKULOUS
not the sarcasm.
make a change at the top and every thing else will come together.
flippin joke

Van Nuys, CA

#13 Sep 27, 2012
*note the sarcasm*
Uh No

Quanah, TX

#14 Sep 27, 2012
Realityczech wrote:
Listen folks, watch the news from time to time. You will see times when a drunk driver kills someone and gets probation or not charged at all. Yeah, sometimes they get a lotta time and sometimes they get none. And Thats when someone is dead. No one in this wrecke got hurt serious. The law isnt based on "well, he coulda killed someone."When. Dont work that way. If you didnt kill someone than you dont get punished for that.
Hurt Serious? How do you define serious? Dead is not DWI it is maybe called vehicular manslaughter or homicide. Don't think anyone gets probation on that one. One chooses to drink then chooses to drive while drunk then if you make those choices and someone is hurt....you pay the price of your choices but those you harm did not make a choice to be harmed. The one who chose to drink and drive are responsible for the harm they cause and should pay the price for their poor choice. Their victims had no choice. Statistics show that by the time someone is arrested for DWI they have driven drunk over 80 times. Over 2000 people a year are killed by drunk drivers in Texas alone. Texas has the highest DWI death rate in the nation.
Uh No

Quanah, TX

#15 Sep 27, 2012
flippin idiots wrote:
People that think someone should have to go to prison on their first crime when (1) they did not do it on purpose, and (2) no one was seriously hurt, are COMPLETE idiots.
Our prisons are full of people. Those that are non-violent should get a second chance with strict terms of release.
Idiot above, please explain to me why this man should have to go to prison?
"did not do it on purpose?" He purposely drank until his BAC was nearly twice the legal limit. He purposely got in his vehicle and drove while highly intoxicated. Did he intend to do the deed.....of course not but he purposely got drunk and drove his vehicle in that condition knowing he was breaking the law and could cause harm. Mr. Stevens has his second chance, now he must live up to the terms of his second chance and get his life back on track. If he fails to make this second chance count....then he should indeed go to prison.....maybe then he will take his problem seriously.
Uh No

Quanah, TX

#16 Sep 27, 2012
flippin joke wrote:
*note the sarcasm*
Sarcasm duly noted
WAIT A MIN

Burkburnett, TX

#17 Sep 28, 2012
Uh No wrote:
<quoted text>
"did not do it on purpose?" He purposely drank until his BAC was nearly twice the legal limit. He purposely got in his vehicle and drove while highly intoxicated. Did he intend to do the deed.....of course not but he purposely got drunk and drove his vehicle in that condition knowing he was breaking the law and could cause harm. Mr. Stevens has his second chance, now he must live up to the terms of his second chance and get his life back on track. If he fails to make this second chance count....then he should indeed go to prison.....maybe then he will take his problem seriously.
We want this man sent to prison, but what about our other 2 drunk drivers who killed themselves and lots of innocent people including a whole family and a man simply doing his job. Both of these were lauded as good men. They were murderers and both would have gone to prison for murder had they lived. GET A Grip people!
MINUTE

Bowie, TX

#18 Sep 28, 2012
If anyone thinks that a jury would have given this man a prison sentence then they are either (1) an idiot,(2) a liar, or (3) deluded in the head.
Hung out

Bowie, TX

#19 Sep 28, 2012
i cant believe wrote:
well we get our good da think for this, he changed everythiing at the last minute is what i was told,he told victims one thing and backd down and changed at the last minute. and our good county attorney doesn't want to file dwi charges, figure that. if this would have been anyone else they would have hung them out to dry. guess it pays to be elite and have money in this town.
If we are going to make claims, let's have SOME information to back them up. Who has gotten "hung out to dry" on there first crime?
freedom 4 55a month

Van Nuys, CA

#20 Sep 28, 2012
WAIT A MIN wrote:
<quoted text>We want this man sent to prison, but what about our other 2 drunk drivers who killed themselves and lots of innocent people including a whole family and a man simply doing his job. Both of these were lauded as good men. They were murderers and both would have gone to prison for murder had they lived. GET A Grip people!
You are correct.Both would have went to prison.One would have been sent to prison based simply on his skin color with addition to his crime.The other would have went to prison for a long time also,only because the heinous crime of murder and burning someone to death was committed somewhere other than Hardeman Co.
If he would have lived and been tried here then he wouldnt of served more than five years behind bars,all because of who he/his family is.

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