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#1 Feb 23, 2009
Does anyone have a link where I can find QCSD teacher salaries for the currrent year?
Teacher Salary Link

Chipley, FL

#2 Feb 23, 2009
Seeker wrote:
Does anyone have a link where I can find QCSD teacher salaries for the currrent year?
http://php.app.com/PAteachers0607/results.php...
Any Recent Numbers

Bethlehem, PA

#3 Feb 23, 2009
???? These are numbers from 2006-2007; prior to the early retirement incentive that was part of the last contract in acknowledgement of many long term teachers at the top of the scale.

Surrounding districts are settling for greater increases than the 2% on scale in the Quakertown contract and teachers are paying 1/2 of what Quakertown teachers are paying in medical premium co-pays for the BC/BS PC5 plan.

Use recent data to make your point, not spin on outdated numbers that do not reflect the current reality.
George

Hatfield, PA

#4 Feb 23, 2009
Any Recent Numbers-

You seem a bit paranoid here. There are no points or "spin" other than your entry about other districts....

Why are you on the defensive without anything to defend yet?

Guilty?
No spin

Stroudsburg, PA

#5 Feb 23, 2009
These are the most recent numbers available on the web. The poster simply provided a link. No judgment or spin involved.
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Bethlehem, PA

#6 Feb 23, 2009
Mea Culpa- was rushing out the door.

C'mon now though, we all know it doesn't take long for a Topix thread to disintegrate to a bash QCSD run.

Go to the district office and ask to see the most recent numbers if you want accurate info.
Teacher Salary Link

Chipley, FL

#7 Feb 23, 2009
Any Recent Numbers wrote:
Mea Culpa- was rushing out the door.
C'mon now though, we all know it doesn't take long for a Topix thread to disintegrate to a bash QCSD run.
Go to the district office and ask to see the most recent numbers if you want accurate info.
The numbers may not be recent..BUT you can be certain current stats are no lower..so add on a 2-3% increase for the missing years. Ain't gonna make them look any better.
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Bethlehem, PA

#8 Feb 23, 2009
But you will see 41+ less of the highest numbers. That's what jumped out at me when I glanced at the list- a bunch of names of people with 30+ years of experience who are no longer employed by the district.
Adjuster

Broomall, PA

#9 Feb 24, 2009
George wrote:
Any Recent Numbers-
You seem a bit paranoid here. There are no points or "spin" other than your entry about other districts....
Why are you on the defensive without anything to defend yet?
Guilty?
ANR was making a point that MANY of these people aren't there any longer--including Dr. Scanlon!

Take off all of those $92,069 salaries to get a better picture of what's really being paid out to our teachers.
Adjuster

Broomall, PA

#10 Feb 24, 2009
Teacher Salary Link wrote:
<quoted text>
The numbers may not be recent..BUT you can be certain current stats are no lower..so add on a 2-3% increase for the missing years. Ain't gonna make them look any better.
All of those $92,069 salaried teachers are GONE. Of course it will make a difference.
Teacher Salary Link

Fair Lawn, NJ

#11 Feb 24, 2009
Adjuster wrote:
<quoted text>All of those $92,069 salaried teachers are GONE. Of course it will make a difference.
Of course it will..upwards.
-School Taxes are increasing 5+%
-High paid teachers who retired have been replaced by greater numbers of lower paid teacher.
-60+% of Monies go to Salaries and Benefits.
-QCSD faces using the $9M fund to cover costs
>So Whats the Problem??<
If you use Fuzzy Math..it works out OK
-except for the Taxpayers whose income is either flat or lost their jobs and are now wiping carts at Walmart.
George

Hatfield, PA

#12 Feb 24, 2009
Teacher Salary Link wrote:
<quoted text>
The numbers may not be recent..BUT you can be certain current stats are no lower..so add on a 2-3% increase for the missing years. Ain't gonna make them look any better.
While doing the math, remember for those who were there 2 years ago and remain, add "step" increases to maximum that are achieved 2 years sooner in QCSD than most other districts. Also add any increases due to additional graduate courses and degrees earned. Also factor in the additional district-wide "bonus" for reachiing the "goals" set by the QCSD Board. These slaries also do not reflect additional pay for sponsoring activities or coaching. These figures also do not include benefits (at least 28% more)for existing teachers and the whopping payments the district will soon owe the PA teacher retirement fund for underpayments.

To add the words of an East Greenville ISP blogger on another thread who often writes in behalf of the QCSD and who described the situation: "You have had a tremendous loss of talent, use tax dollars with no benefit to education or community, exhaustion, exasperation, and low morale in the talent that remains. This does not serve education or the taxpayers well at all."
It seems teachers and administrators are unhappy. Perhaps they need a raise.
George

Hatfield, PA

#13 Feb 24, 2009
OOPS! And to avoid "fuzzy math" remember to compound the % raises- with each passing year, the base the % is computed on increases even without considering the steps and bonuses and additional pay for additional activities. Sorry for the omission.
Fritz

Newtown Square, PA

#14 Feb 24, 2009
Teacher Salary Link wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it will..upwards.
-School Taxes are increasing 5+%
-High paid teachers who retired have been replaced by greater numbers of lower paid teacher.
-60+% of Monies go to Salaries and Benefits.
-QCSD faces using the $9M fund to cover costs
>So Whats the Problem??<
If you use Fuzzy Math..it works out OK
-except for the Taxpayers whose income is either flat or lost their jobs and are now wiping carts at Walmart.
These are new times, we need new solutions. Teacher can't have it all one way.

They must pay a goodly portion for healthcare

They must not have their retirement shortfalls banked by us the taxpayer...who gives you back money from your 401 that is now a 101.

If you retire at 70-80K per year plus SS...sorry, pay your own medical.

You can't teach, we don't want you.

Get some bright eyed and bushy tailed new teachers in who have a passion to teach. Get rid of all the old farts who hate to come to work everyday.

Get rid of the disruptive, chronic offenders who don't want to learn, let them join the military.

Become zero tolerant for bullying and damn bad attitudes.

Boost the special ed program to help the kids who are in jr/sr high school with more important life skill programs, let them become productive citizens.

NEW contract negotiations are needed. No talk about give-backs. Just a brand new contract period. This is it, take it or leave it, thus is what we can afford.

And, that jerk Rick orloff can pay my tax increase from his own pocket. He can also stick his 280K street lights up his assets. This is not the time for such foolishness.
Bucks County Resident

Hillsborough, NJ

#15 Feb 24, 2009
Its tough to say teachers are overpaid. I am looking at salaries of my friends that are my age. I actually feel bad for them. You don't make great money until you have been teaching a long time, and by then you probably deserve it.
George

Hatfield, PA

#16 Feb 24, 2009
B.Bernanke is testifying (its live on TV)as we write. He reported a zero cost of living increase. 3% salary bump looks pretty good in light of the falling home values, rising joblessness and other economic indicators he is reporting on.
George

Hatfield, PA

#17 Feb 24, 2009
Bernanke went on to testify that the economy is "undergoing a Severe Contraction" and "is likely to keep Shrinking throughout the year". Our fortunate public employees aren't expected to experience this like those who pay their salaries and benefits will.
Tea Party Time

Murrieta, CA

#18 Feb 24, 2009
Fritz wrote:
<quoted text>
These are new times, we need new solutions. Teacher can't have it all one way.
They must pay a goodly portion for healthcare
They must not have their retirement shortfalls banked by us the taxpayer...who gives you back money from your 401 that is now a 101.
If you retire at 70-80K per year plus SS...sorry, pay your own medical.
You can't teach, we don't want you.
Get some bright eyed and bushy tailed new teachers in who have a passion to teach. Get rid of all the old farts who hate to come to work everyday.
Get rid of the disruptive, chronic offenders who don't want to learn, let them join the military.
Become zero tolerant for bullying and damn bad attitudes.
Boost the special ed program to help the kids who are in jr/sr high school with more important life skill programs, let them become productive citizens.
NEW contract negotiations are needed. No talk about give-backs. Just a brand new contract period. This is it, take it or leave it, thus is what we can afford.
And, that jerk Rick orloff can pay my tax increase from his own pocket. He can also stick his 280K street lights up his assets. This is not the time for such foolishness.
Right on Fritz...I was kind and didn't figure in my 'Fuzzy Math' that most non-teachers work a 49-50 week year. Teachers work a 38 week year which is a Fuzzy 22% less time. So Albert Fuzzstein figures that average $76k/yr salary is really an equivalent $93,100./yr. So the top grade of $96,000. is equivalent to $117,600./yr with benefits & pension.
Yep..Using Fuzzy Math a salary increase is a must! But lets talk about salary negotiation and potential strikes after they get back from 2 months at the Jersey Shore.
George

Hatfield, PA

#19 Feb 25, 2009
From the Feb. 6, 2009 QCSD Budget Update on the school district website:
"Are salaries out of control? What about benefits?
Even at the “preliminary stage,” salaries at 3.64% increase are in line with or lower than previous years, under the government cost of living, and well below the board mandated goal of 5.1%....and that number is BEFORE adjustments that will be made over the next few month"
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Bethlehem, PA

#20 Feb 25, 2009
The district's salary schedule includes 13 "steps." Please back up your allegation that this is less than other districts with specific examples. Please cite your range and how many districts you included and excluded within this range along with your sources of information.

This means that after a maximum of 13 years in the district (less if you entered the district with advanced degrees and experience), the annual increases are the 2% "on scale" and the 1.25%(or a percentage thereof) the performance incentive with goals rooted in student achievement.

This maximum of 1.25% is on the base salary and is not compounded annually.

The superintendent sets these goals, not the board- another rallying point for the supporters of a strong council/weak manager model. I do not agree with your assertion and preference that the power and will of politicians should consistently trump the recommendations of trained educators- especially given the agendas and ethics of a team of politicans in this area working hard to obtain a board majority.

The critics will continue to call this performance incentive a bonus and others regard it as moving union pay away from strictly a longevity model; a win for taxpayers and those who support rewarding competency and progress in a unionized entity.

Contact your state legislators about the universally frustrating unfunded mandates regarding the retirement system. The Pennsylvania School Boards Association (a non-profit statewide association of public school boards that supports high quality local lay leadership of our public schools) is launching an initiative to advocate for relief from this and other un- or underfunded mandates.

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