A Vote For Ron Paul is a Vote For Obama
Vote4Gary_Johnso n

Newtown Square, PA

#63 Sep 3, 2012
Stuck_In_The_Middle wrote:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
I would argue that King George has been replaced by the two major political parties.
I would argue that the pragmatic thing to do in 1776 was to do nothing.
I would argue that there was no logical way that simple citizens could defeat the worlds best trained and armed military force.
The lesser of two evils is evil.
Bravo my fellow American. With an astute mind like yours, I am sure that you are aware of Gary Johnson. His candidacy does give us a choice in 2012. While I can respect the tenacity some Americans harbor in seeking to defeat Obama, I must reject some of the assertion made in this thread. A vote for a 3rd Party candidate is NOT a vote for Obama. Many Americans - myself included want to vote for a candidate, not simply against a candidate. Romney and Obama are conducting negative campaigns. Telling us why we should vote against the other, rather than why we should vote for either of them. That's why I support Gary Johnson.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#64 Sep 3, 2012
Okay, I've just been doing a day's worth of studying history. I literally cried reading about the life of Theodore Roosevelt, one of the best presidents ever, and his post-presidential involvement with the Progressive Movement. We're going back a hundred years, guys, but it's so true that nothing really changes. If a guy like Theodore Roosevelt couldn't change the system, who can?

Should I vote at all for a system I no longer believe in? For the last 30+ years, as a single parent struggling to support my children, it has not been good under the Republicans or the Democrats.

I should have bought a couple hundred troy-oz. Krugerrands back in 1979. What a dummy! I worked for a firm where I could have purchased them for $39 each! Now I can't afford to go out for a $39 dinner!

I truly think, for me, it's going to end up being an election-day decision unless something truly earth-shattering happens. I'm waiting for a sign from God (said with semi-seriousness).
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#65 Sep 3, 2012
Vote4Gary_Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>Bravo my fellow American. With an astute mind like yours, I am sure that you are aware of Gary Johnson. His candidacy does give us a choice in 2012. While I can respect the tenacity some Americans harbor in seeking to defeat Obama, I must reject some of the assertion made in this thread. A vote for a 3rd Party candidate is NOT a vote for Obama. Many Americans - myself included want to vote for a candidate, not simply against a candidate. Romney and Obama are conducting negative campaigns. Telling us why we should vote against the other, rather than why we should vote for either of them. That's why I support Gary Johnson.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
Not true. Obama and Romney both have easy to see and differentiate positions on major issues, and Obama's performance is on record. You are an Obama supporter hoping to manipulate undecided voters to favor your candidate. Despicable.
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#66 Sep 3, 2012
Vote4Gary_Johnson wrote:
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Bravo my fellow American. With an astute mind like yours, I am sure that you are aware of Gary Johnson. His candidacy does give us a choice in 2012. While I can respect the tenacity some Americans harbor in seeking to defeat Obama, I must reject some of the assertion made in this thread. A vote for a 3rd Party candidate is NOT a vote for Obama. Many Americans - myself included want to vote for a candidate, not simply against a candidate. Romney and Obama are conducting negative campaigns. Telling us why we should vote against the other, rather than why we should vote for either of them. That's why I support Gary Johnson.
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
You know what, though? Suppose, by some miracle, Gary Johnson DID win enough electoral votes to actually take the election and become the next president of the USA. Do you really think the Congress, in its current state of extreme disfunction and non-activity (especially now as they're in the midst of their 5-week paid vacation), they'd budge to work with the new guy? I doubt it.
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#67 Sep 3, 2012
bethwhistler wrote:
<quoted text>You know what, though? Suppose, by some miracle, Gary Johnson DID win enough electoral votes to actually take the election and become the next president of the USA. Do you really think the Congress, in its current state of extreme disfunction and non-activity (especially now as they're in the midst of their 5-week paid vacation), they'd budge to work with the new guy? I doubt it.
This was also the subject of an article about what would happen if Ron Paul won. I don't remember the specifics, but it concluded the foreign policy things he could do without Congressional approval would be few, but potentially devastating. The more popular things he proposed for economic reform wouldn't have a chance of passing.
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#68 Sep 3, 2012
Inquiring Mind wrote:
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This was also the subject of an article about what would happen if Ron Paul won. I don't remember the specifics, but it concluded the foreign policy things he could do without Congressional approval would be few, but potentially devastating. The more popular things he proposed for economic reform wouldn't have a chance of passing.
Yes, Ron Paul is not who I'd be voting for but I was feeling guilty because I've been trying to talk one of my sons out of voting for him. I guess, as a parent, I feel I have to give him my opinion, especially if it's a vote that will counter my own (if I decide to vote at all).

I always wonder how Democrat/Republican marriages work at election times. You'd think they'd just not vote at all knowing the one will cancel out the other!
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#69 Sep 3, 2012
Sorry. When commenting on the state of Congress, I misspelled "disfunction. Should have read "dysfunction."
Vote4Gary_Johnso n

Newtown Square, PA

#70 Sep 3, 2012
bethwhistler wrote:
Okay, I've just been doing a day's worth of studying history. I literally cried reading about the life of Theodore Roosevelt, one of the best presidents ever, and his post-presidential involvement with the Progressive Movement. We're going back a hundred years, guys, but it's so true that nothing really changes. If a guy like Theodore Roosevelt couldn't change the system, who can?
Should I vote at all for a system I no longer believe in? For the last 30+ years, as a single parent struggling to support my children, it has not been good under the Republicans or the Democrats.
I should have bought a couple hundred troy-oz. Krugerrands back in 1979. What a dummy! I worked for a firm where I could have purchased them for $39 each! Now I can't afford to go out for a $39 dinner!
I truly think, for me, it's going to end up being an election-day decision unless something truly earth-shattering happens. I'm waiting for a sign from God (said with semi-seriousness).
What's quite sad is that Teddy Roosevelt - one of the greatest American President's - could not win a Republican primary in today's poisoned political environment. They have mutated into something this nation has never known. Why would anyone cast their lot with Romney/Ryan?
Nope

Newtown Square, PA

#71 Sep 4, 2012
Vote4Gary_Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>
What's quite sad is that Teddy Roosevelt - one of the greatest American President's - could not win a Republican primary in today's poisoned political environment. They have mutated into something this nation has never known. Why would anyone cast their lot with Romney/Ryan?
Right, Kline. Whatever.
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#72 Sep 4, 2012
Vote4Gary_Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>
What's quite sad is that Teddy Roosevelt - one of the greatest American President's - could not win a Republican primary in today's poisoned political environment. They have mutated into something this nation has never known. Why would anyone cast their lot with Romney/Ryan?
Simple. Obama has been a total failure and has made the economy worse off than when he took over (or more correctly, let Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi take it over). The real question is why anyone would want to make the same mistake twice. 54% of the population now say he doesn't deserve re-election.

http://thehill.com/conventions-2012/dem-conve...
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#73 Sep 4, 2012
Vote4Gary_Johnson wrote:
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What's quite sad is that Teddy Roosevelt - one of the greatest American President's - could not win a Republican primary in today's poisoned political environment. They have mutated into something this nation has never known. Why would anyone cast their lot with Romney/Ryan?
Theodore Roosevelt didn't like being called "Teddy."
Vote4Gary_Johnso n

Newtown Square, PA

#74 Sep 4, 2012
Gary Johnson interviewed by the Philadelphia Inquirer.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120904_In...
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#75 Sep 4, 2012
Vote4Gary_Johnson wrote:
Gary Johnson interviewed by the Philadelphia Inquirer.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120904_In...
Actually that's a good article, thank you. But it doesn't change anything, just like a vote for Johnson won't change anything except to help Obama. If that's okay with you, go for it.

If you don't want 4 more years of Obama, this time with him running amok without fear of losing re-election, then you must vote for Romney. It's as simple as that.
smiley

Sunbury, PA

#76 Sep 5, 2012
Inquiring Mind wrote:
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Not true. Obama and Romney both have easy to see and differentiate positions on major issues, and Obama's performance is on record. You are an Obama supporter hoping to manipulate undecided voters to favor your candidate. Despicable.
Oh gee Guy I guess tht makes me an obama supporter too!

Wakeup dear...
smell the coffee..
not EVERYONE want to throw their vote away!

Many of us do vote with our conscience, and not out of FEAR.

If the media would be fair and balanced the Libertarians and candidate like Ron Paul would have an opportunity at winning.

Instead they media, party leaders control the vote by indoctrinating your mind with fear.

Youre vote for Romney is out of fear. You know u cant deny that.
smiley

Sunbury, PA

#77 Sep 5, 2012
Vote4Gary_Johnson wrote:
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What's quite sad is that Teddy Roosevelt - one of the greatest American President's - could not win a Republican primary in today's poisoned political environment. They have mutated into something this nation has never known. Why would anyone cast their lot with Romney/Ryan?
Roosevelt planted the seeds for the destruction of our country!

I fail to see how someone who claims to have Libertarian leanings could post anythng favorable about Roosevelt- the Progressive!

Really do you know which way youre walking down the st???
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#78 Sep 5, 2012
smiley wrote:
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Oh gee Guy I guess tht makes me an obama supporter too!
Wakeup dear...
smell the coffee..
not EVERYONE want to throw their vote away!
Many of us do vote with our conscience, and not out of FEAR.
If the media would be fair and balanced the Libertarians and candidate like Ron Paul would have an opportunity at winning.
Instead they media, party leaders control the vote by indoctrinating your mind with fear.
Youre vote for Romney is out of fear. You know u cant deny that.
We've had this argument before, Smiley, so we're not going to budge off our positions. My vote for Romney IS out of fear - fear for what another four years of Obama would do to the country. But I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul anyway, just as most people wouldn't. So, in reality there is no chance under any scenario of him or Gary Johnson winning and reality is where I live!

You can vote for Paul or Johnson, Smiley, but that just means you don't care if Obama wins or not. Everything has consequences, some are unintended, but we have to live with them just the same.
Nope

Newtown Square, PA

#79 Sep 5, 2012
smiley wrote:
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Roosevelt planted the seeds for the destruction of our country!
I fail to see how someone who claims to have Libertarian leanings could post anythng favorable about Roosevelt- the Progressive!
Really do you know which way youre walking down the st???
Smiley, this poser is pulling you into his lie. He's no Libertarian--he's a far left LIBERAL Democrat posing as a Libertarian.

He sneaks around posing under different names, some of the female, and has also posed as a Catholic Republican, but the vicious way he refers to Republicans in his posts gives him away every time. He's Richland's own uber-Liberal, Brian Kline, who has run for office several times, and lost badly because of his extreme progressive views which don't fit in this area whatsoever.

It amazes me that on 20% of the population leans liberal, but with the way they posture themselves, they act like they are in the majority!

The vast majority of the country is center-right.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conser...
smiley

Sunbury, PA

#80 Sep 5, 2012
Nope wrote:
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Smiley, this poser is pulling you into his lie. He's no Libertarian--he's a far left LIBERAL Democrat posing as a Libertarian.
He sneaks around posing under different names, some of the female, and has also posed as a Catholic Republican, but the vicious way he refers to Republicans in his posts gives him away every time. He's Richland's own uber-Liberal, Brian Kline, who has run for office several times, and lost badly because of his extreme progressive views which don't fit in this area whatsoever.
It amazes me that on 20% of the population leans liberal, but with the way they posture themselves, they act like they are in the majority!
The vast majority of the country is center-right.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conser...
LOL! Hes NOT pulling me into anything.
I have been voting Libertarian since 1994!

I could careless how he votes or the game you think hes playing.
Either way he is getting the Libertarian candidates name out there-and that in itself is a good thing!
SINCE THE MEDIA is failing at keeping the public informed, the sheep in the dark!
Baaaa!
LibertyMinded

Freehold, NJ

#81 Sep 22, 2012
A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama's policies.

A vote for Obama is a vote for Romney's policies.

No thanks.

Johnson 2012
smiley

Sunbury, PA

#82 Sep 23, 2012
LibertyMinded wrote:
A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama's policies.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Romney's policies.
No thanks.
Johnson 2012
Good one!!
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

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