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Half of Americans No Longer See Link Between Hard Work, Wealth

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Purple

Perkasie, PA

#1 Mar 15, 2013
The American dream? More like a pipe dream, according to a new poll. by Dain Fitzgerald

The final nail in the coffin of the American dream is being hammered down by a new poll showing that well over half of Americans no longer think it possible for "for anyone in the country" to get rich by working hard.

The Washington Examiner's Paul Bedard reports on the gloomy news revealing that 59% of those surveyed by Rasmussen have given up on the traditional conception of the American dream.(However, there may be a newer, less ambitious conception.)

It's the worst news Rasmussen has heard on this front in over four years, and meshes well - if you can describe it that way - with what Bedard himself has heard from struggling young adults:

"It jived with the view of recent college grads who told [me] during an Inauguration conference in January that the materialistic American Dream was out of reach, so they were focused instead on bettering their community with volunteer work."
Okay

Broomall, PA

#2 Mar 15, 2013
Cliff Notes version: Americans have become lazy and want everything without working for it.

This has to make Obama happy with his transformation of America from the land of dreams to a nanny state.
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#3 Mar 15, 2013
Purple wrote:
The American dream? More like a pipe dream, according to a new poll. by Dain Fitzgerald
The final nail in the coffin of the American dream is being hammered down by a new poll showing that well over half of Americans no longer think it possible for "for anyone in the country" to get rich by working hard.
The Washington Examiner's Paul Bedard reports on the gloomy news revealing that 59% of those surveyed by Rasmussen have given up on the traditional conception of the American dream.(However, there may be a newer, less ambitious conception.)
It's the worst news Rasmussen has heard on this front in over four years, and meshes well - if you can describe it that way - with what Bedard himself has heard from struggling young adults:
"It jived with the view of recent college grads who told [me] during an Inauguration conference in January that the materialistic American Dream was out of reach, so they were focused instead on bettering their community with volunteer work."
It is sad. But you know where the "American" dream is still alive and well? Places like China, India, South Korea, Singapore, and Brazil. While they want to be where we used to be, we're racing headlong into becoming an insolvent, non-productive Europe.
JJJ

Lafayette Hill, PA

#4 Mar 15, 2013
What an odd way to read that report and equating people feeling like they're being disenfranchised as demanding things for free.

"It is sad. But you know where the "American" dream is still alive and well? Places like China, India, South Korea, Singapore, and Brazil."

If only WE could force our people to work for slave wages and live in packed dorms owned by their employers. THAT'S the American dream.
Latch

Perkasie, PA

#5 Mar 15, 2013
I understand a little. It seems like no matter how hard I work, I really don't get ahead much. I think the deck's stacked against the average guy with all the tax loopholes for the real rich.
resident

Broomall, PA

#6 Mar 15, 2013
Latch wrote:
I understand a little. It seems like no matter how hard I work, I really don't get ahead much. I think the deck's stacked against the average guy with all the tax loopholes for the real rich.
The American Dream is a myth. The average person can work 60-70 hours a week and get nowhere. Taxes for the rich have never been lower. Corporate profits are exploding through the roof but nothing trickles down to the average worker thanks to greed and weak unions. Unless you inherited wealth or have a job on Wall Street or Silicon Valley, you're going nowhere fast.
Lehigh County Resident

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Mar 15, 2013
resident wrote:
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The American Dream is a myth. The average person can work 60-70 hours a week and get nowhere. Taxes for the rich have never been lower. Corporate profits are exploding through the roof but nothing trickles down to the average worker thanks to greed and weak unions. Unless you inherited wealth or have a job on Wall Street or Silicon Valley, you're going nowhere fast.
Instead of crying about it, why not get off your a$$ and make more money. We went over this before in another thread.
resident

Broomall, PA

#8 Mar 15, 2013
Lehigh County Resident wrote:
<quoted text>Instead of crying about it, why not get off your a$$ and make more money. We went over this before in another thread.
What does that even mean? You are obviously clueless about the challenges millions of Americans face.
Info

Broomall, PA

#9 Mar 15, 2013
Lehigh County Resident wrote:
<quoted text>Instead of crying about it, why not get off your a$$ and make more money. We went over this before in another thread.
"resident" smells like "Joe," don't you think?
OMG

Souderton, PA

#10 Mar 15, 2013
Info wrote:
<quoted text>"resident" smells like "Joe," don't you think?
Here's a post from you,what a sh!thead!!!

Info
Quakertown, PA
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OMG wrote:
<quoted text>Make me. It's easy to tell you're the real idiot who goes by the name southpark69 Quakertown ISP. And the Hsu suckdick!
Oh, for Christ's sake, grow up idiot.

Everyone is someone else to you, aren't they? Go back under your rock, you crazy loon.
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#11 Mar 15, 2013
JJJ wrote:
What an odd way to read that report and equating people feeling like they're being disenfranchised as demanding things for free.
"It is sad. But you know where the "American" dream is still alive and well? Places like China, India, South Korea, Singapore, and Brazil."
If only WE could force our people to work for slave wages and live in packed dorms owned by their employers. THAT'S the American dream.
I'm talking about the entrepreneurs, professionals, and businesspeople. They are the emerging class in these countries achieving the "American" dream. I agree that the workers have a long way to go. That's why they still want to come to America, where workers are treated much better and fairer - in spite of what many Left wing-nuts claim. What we're losing is American exceptionalism and leadership in many areas.
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#12 Mar 15, 2013
Latch wrote:
I understand a little. It seems like no matter how hard I work, I really don't get ahead much. I think the deck's stacked against the average guy with all the tax loopholes for the real rich.
Don't be misled. As unfair as "Tax loopholes for real rich" may seem to you (and may actually be), it doesn't really affect YOUR ability to get ahead. That's up to you, not some rich guy who's legally taking advantage of deductions so that he can keep more of HIS money. The "rich guys" you need to blame are the ones calling the shots in Washington who allow people to game the system without facing any consequences, or through greed and corruption seek to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense.
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#13 Mar 15, 2013
resident wrote:
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The American Dream is a myth. The average person can work 60-70 hours a week and get nowhere. Taxes for the rich have never been lower. Corporate profits are exploding through the roof but nothing trickles down to the average worker thanks to greed and weak unions. Unless you inherited wealth or have a job on Wall Street or Silicon Valley, you're going nowhere fast.
YOU'RE going nowhere fast with an attitude like that. Do YOU work 60-70 hours a week? I doubt it very much. Most of us who work hard are doing just fine, without inherited wealth or a job on Wall Street or Silicon Valley. Of course, there are people struggling in this (or any) economy. Blaming others for your own failings is a pretty lame strategy for achieving success.
Snowman

Sellersville, PA

#14 Mar 15, 2013
Latch wrote:
I understand a little. It seems like no matter how hard I work, I really don't get ahead much. I think the deck's stacked against the average guy with all the tax loopholes for the real rich.
Your not getting rich because your landlord isn't charging enough school tax to fund all your illegitimate kids.
my 3 cents

Sellersville, PA

#15 Mar 15, 2013
The people who really work hard never make any real money. The people who work the least and talk the most make the most. It's not about working hard it's about who you know and slick talking to become wealthy. You have to be shady and cut throat to make big money. It's nothing new.
my 3 cents

Sellersville, PA

#16 Mar 15, 2013
And the words "work hard" means nothing. I guarantee I work 100X times harder then lets say Donald Trump but I have nowhere near his wealth. Again it's not about working hard it's about knowing the right people, slick talking, and going at each others throats to make it to the top.

How hard is Donald trump working by sitting in his desk making phone calls all day and attending meetings and stuff like that? Is that hard work? Not in the slightest.
resident

Broomall, PA

#17 Mar 15, 2013
my 3 cents wrote:
The people who really work hard never make any real money. The people who work the least and talk the most make the most. It's not about working hard it's about who you know and slick talking to become wealthy. You have to be shady and cut throat to make big money. It's nothing new.
Amen brother (or sister)
dbar

Quakertown, PA

#18 Mar 15, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
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It is sad. But you know where the "American" dream is still alive and well? Places like China, India, South Korea, Singapore, and Brazil. While they want to be where we used to be, we're racing headlong into becoming an insolvent, non-productive Europe.
Germany is non-productive?
hardly.
Italy no longer produces leading edge sport cars?
the Brits no longer lead the world in cuisine?(just kidding about that one)

The EU has it's problems, but using a wide brush and saying Europe is non-productive is a stretch.
Major Malfunction

Broomall, PA

#19 Mar 15, 2013
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Nothing more is guaranteed. Succeed or fail.
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#20 Mar 15, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>Germany is non-productive?
hardly.
Italy no longer produces leading edge sport cars?
the Brits no longer lead the world in cuisine?(just kidding about that one)

The EU has it's problems, but using a wide brush and saying Europe is non-productive is a stretch.
Germany is the exception that proves the rule. I am a great admirer of the German work ethic, which persists in spite of the drain of other EU countries, including Greece, Spain, Portugal, France, and yes, Italy. The UK is not an EU country, but it has its own economic woes related to labor problems.

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