Shopping Centers Planned For 309

Shopping Centers Planned For 309

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Just The Truth

Egg Harbor Township, NJ

#1 Aug 12, 2010
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/the_int...

Shopping Centers Planned For 309
8/11/10 by Hilary Bentman - The Intelligencer

RICHLAND TWP.- The developers of both proposed shopping centers have been meeting with township and PennDOT officials to discuss improvements to the Route 309/West Pumping Station Road intersection.

The congested shopping center-lined highway that is Route 309 is about to get a little more crowded.

Two new shopping centers are in the works in Richland, just north of the Quakertown border.

If approved, these centers would sit almost directly across the street from each other at Route 309 and West Pumping Station Road and just south of Richland Marketplace, the largest shopping center in the area.

On Monday, township supervisors gave preliminary plan approval to a project called the Pavilion at Richland on 15 acres at the corner of northbound Route 309 and West Pumping Station Road.

Plans call for building a 14,470-square-foot pharmacy with a drive-through in the first phase of the project, followed by a second phase of constructing nearly 84,000 square feet of retail space divided into three units. The developers have confirmed Rite Aid as the pharmacy tenant.

Meanwhile, across Route 309 and just south of the Workout Plus gym, plans are in the works for a shopping center that would feature a large retail space and one or two businesses with drive-through locations.

General Hancock Partnership Enterprises received conditional use approval Monday for the nearly 10-acre property.

The developers have submitted two possible plans. One calls for an 18,600-square-foot building and a 3,000-square-foot building with drive-through. The second plan calls for a 13,300-square-foot building, a 3,000-square-foot building with a drive-through, and a 3,200-square-foot building with drive-through.

No potential tenants have been identified, but each building with a drive-through is consistent with a bank or fast-food restaurant, said township manager Stephen Sechriest.

The developers of both proposed shopping centers have been meeting with township and PennDOT officials to discuss improvements to the Route 309/West Pumping Station Road intersection. The developers hope to coordinate their efforts and split some of the costs associated with intersection upgrades, said Sechriest.

It could be awhile before the General Hancock project gets off the ground. Besides needing land development approvals, the project must also wait for sewer service.

A few years ago, Richland ran out of its allotted sewage space at Quakertown's treatment plant, leading the Bucks County Water and Sewer Authority, the township's provider, to halt most new development.

Millions of dollars worth of improvements to the plant and its infrastructure are needed in the next few years to provide for current and future needs. Until that happens, several proposed developments in Richland have been shelved.

The developers of the Pavilion project across the street have also been hung up by the sewer moratorium, but they have proposed a temporary sewage holding tank for the pharmacy, which would be the first phase of the project. The second phase will wait for public sewer to become available, they said.

Even with these projects, there are still several other parcels of land available along the Route 309 corridor in Richland that could be developed into office space and/or commercial shopping centers.
general public

Newtown Square, PA

#2 Aug 12, 2010
Just what we need ,another shopping center,why not leave it open space ? 2more areas to pave over,acres of asphalt to collect dirt grease and oil,to only wash in to the streams during rainstorms ,nice.
Disgusted

Grand Rapids, MI

#3 Aug 12, 2010
Great just what we need another Rite Aide, how many do we need in Qtwn? Wait maybe we can make The Guinness Book of World Records for most shopping centers in one mile. wtf

Since: Oct 09

Lisbon Falls, ME

#4 Aug 12, 2010
Disgusted wrote:
Great just what we need another Rite Aide, how many do we need in Qtwn? Wait maybe we can make The Guinness Book of World Records for most shopping centers in one mile. wtf
Soon there may be as many drug stores as there are pizza joints.
qtownres

Perkasie, PA

#5 Aug 12, 2010
Why do we need more shopping centers when we have all these empty stores. They should put a stop on building until existing buildings are filled. Traffic is already a mess during the day. Richland Township is turning into Bensalem.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#6 Aug 12, 2010
This is going to mean yet another traffic light before you hit Rt 663! I cannot see them putting a shopping center inbetween Pumping Station and Walmart without a light it would be to dangerous! 309 is def going to be like driving on Street Road!
mall

United States

#7 Aug 12, 2010
I wish this place would just build a mall. I love that we are getting more stores. There is plenty of farm land and openspace around here. Why do. We need it on 309 ? So people can dump stuff and pollute it?
There are plenty of back roads to take . I never have problems with traffic.
As for having a police dept you should have one anyway. I wouldn't want to wait for the state to come from 30 minutes away.
bucksres

Trenton, NJ

#8 Aug 12, 2010
Disgusted wrote:
Great just what we need another Rite Aide, how many do we need in Qtwn? Wait maybe we can make The Guinness Book of World Records for most shopping centers in one mile. wtf
SERIOUSLY I COULDNT AGREE MORE, I MEAN HOW ABOUT WE MIX IT UP WITH A WALGREENS? RITE AID....??? UGH
I THINK ITS GREAT THAT THEY ARE BUILDING THESE SHOPPING CENTERS, IT GENERATES JOB SO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO SHOP AT THESE NEW STORES!
qtownres

Perkasie, PA

#9 Aug 12, 2010
bucksres wrote:
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SERIOUSLY I COULDNT AGREE MORE, I MEAN HOW ABOUT WE MIX IT UP WITH A WALGREENS? RITE AID....??? UGH
I THINK ITS GREAT THAT THEY ARE BUILDING THESE SHOPPING CENTERS, IT GENERATES JOB SO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO SHOP AT THESE NEW STORES!
I dissagree about the shopping centers yes they will bring jobs but low paying min. wage jobs. Not jobs people can live on. If we're going to ruin the land lets try to bring manufactoring jobs to the area. Jobs people can live on and raise their families on. But our local governments are so shortsighted they won't even think of this.
TruthBToldSeller vileISP

Hatfield, PA

#10 Aug 12, 2010
qtownres wrote:
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I dissagree about the shopping centers yes they will bring jobs but low paying min. wage jobs. Not jobs people can live on. If we're going to ruin the land lets try to bring manufactoring jobs to the area. Jobs people can live on and raise their families on. But our local governments are so shortsighted they won't even think of this.
Surely you realize that it is the property owners and the developers and the banks that provide them with financing for their projects who decide what will be built. As long as the development follows zoning ordinances, the "local governments" aren't making the call.

Of course "local governments" may prefer (clean) manufacturing facilities to raise tax revenues and provide jobs. Tim Arnold ran for supervisor in Richland Township on a platform plank to encourage just such development. Unfortunately, the property owners decide what they will do with their property.

On a positive note- shopping centers will bring jobs and revenue to the school district without adding to the school rolls. The property owners might have chosen to build residences.
Yippie

Burlington, NJ

#11 Aug 12, 2010
another shopping center! more stores! why put them in the vacant stores we have now?? more ugly gross shopping areas!
No Way

Quakertown, PA

#12 Aug 12, 2010
TruthBToldSellervileISP wrote:
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The property owners might have chosen to build residences.
Residential developments on 309? Yeah, right! Are you NUTS???
No Way

Quakertown, PA

#13 Aug 12, 2010
Besides, those areas aren't zone residential, you nitwit.
TruthBToldSeller vileISP

Hatfield, PA

#14 Aug 12, 2010
No Way wrote:
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Residential developments on 309? Yeah, right! Are you NUTS???
Notice the apartment development on 309 at Colmar? The new development at 309 and 63? The development of new homes over the past 15 years along 309 south of route 78?

Of course I am nuts but the possibility of residences being built along 309 is a fact backed up by other developments along that very same route.
qtownres

Perkasie, PA

#15 Aug 12, 2010
TruthBToldSellervileISP wrote:
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Surely you realize that it is the property owners and the developers and the banks that provide them with financing for their projects who decide what will be built. As long as the development follows zoning ordinances, the "local governments" aren't making the call.
Of course "local governments" may prefer (clean) manufacturing facilities to raise tax revenues and provide jobs. Tim Arnold ran for supervisor in Richland Township on a platform plank to encourage just such development. Unfortunately, the property owners decide what they will do with their property.
On a positive note- shopping centers will bring jobs and revenue to the school district without adding to the school rolls. The property owners might have chosen to build residences.
Instead of paying on losing lawsuits all the time, maybe the great supervisors could start reaching out to companies who may be interest in building or moving their facilities. This is what other municipalities do. And guess what every now and then they attract one. Then you will see more jobs more revenue without more traffic. And we will have more products made in the U.S.A. Instead of creating more dead end jobs.
oh geez

Broomall, PA

#16 Aug 12, 2010
Unfortunately with the economy not many corporations or manufactuers are looking to build.
qtownres

Perkasie, PA

#17 Aug 12, 2010
TruthBToldSellervileISP wrote:
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Surely you realize that it is the property owners and the developers and the banks that provide them with financing for their projects who decide what will be built. As long as the development follows zoning ordinances, the "local governments" aren't making the call.
Of course "local governments" may prefer (clean) manufacturing facilities to raise tax revenues and provide jobs. Tim Arnold ran for supervisor in Richland Township on a platform plank to encourage just such development. Unfortunately, the property owners decide what they will do with their property.
On a positive note- shopping centers will bring jobs and revenue to the school district without adding to the school rolls. The property owners might have chosen to build residences.
You are correct that the landowners decide who to sell to but if the township, borough or county finds a company interested i guarantee you they will find suitable land with a landowner willing to sell to them.
TruthBToldSeller vileISP

Hatfield, PA

#18 Aug 12, 2010
qtownres wrote:
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You are correct that the landowners decide who to sell to but if the township, borough or county finds a company interested i guarantee you they will find suitable land with a landowner willing to sell to them.
The properties in question are not for sale. The owners have made a decision to develop them and have started the development process and have secured some tenants and funding. I don't know your personal relationship with the owners that enables you to guarantee that they would abandon their plans and sell their properties to phantom buyers instead but am inclined to doubt your veracity.

I agree that it would be in the best interest of the community if the elected officials and employees could solicit manufacturers who were looking for a place to relocate or expand and were able to convince them that Richland Township would be an ideal location. Doubtless, there might possibly be suitable sites for some companies that are for sale or whose owners could be convinced to sell. Wishing and hoping and imagining are happy places to go in our minds.
qtownres

Perkasie, PA

#19 Aug 12, 2010
TruthBToldSellervileISP wrote:
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The properties in question are not for sale. The owners have made a decision to develop them and have started the development process and have secured some tenants and funding. I don't know your personal relationship with the owners that enables you to guarantee that they would abandon their plans and sell their properties to phantom buyers instead but am inclined to doubt your veracity.
I agree that it would be in the best interest of the community if the elected officials and employees could solicit manufacturers who were looking for a place to relocate or expand and were able to convince them that Richland Township would be an ideal location. Doubtless, there might possibly be suitable sites for some companies that are for sale or whose owners could be convinced to sell. Wishing and hoping and imagining are happy places to go in our minds.
I have no personal relationship with these owners nor do i know who they are. I am speaking in general. We must expand our thinking.
Local

Quakertown, PA

#20 Aug 12, 2010
TruthBToldSellervileISP wrote:
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Notice the apartment development on 309 at Colmar? The new development at 309 and 63? The development of new homes over the past 15 years along 309 south of route 78?
Of course I am nuts but the possibility of residences being built along 309 is a fact backed up by other developments along that very same route.
All the developments you mention have infrastructure to support them. We do not.

Colmar: No shopping center across the street and existing light at Broad St.

309 & 63: Multi-lane roads on both sides with dedicated turn lanes/jug handles.

309 & 78: Main entrances are on Lanark Rd. and there are no shopping centers across the street, plus that section of 309 is divided so only southbound traffic can access it with no need for a light.

Nice try. Not.

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