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Youre-kidding-ri ght

Harwich, MA

#1 Oct 1, 2010
To Manu Sivaraman: You might be one of the most shameful people on the planet. You shamefully state, "As you also know if you have been reading the news, we have had problems here, too. They happen in any manufacturing facility -- but"

How dare you try to trivialize the leaks at your aged, obsolete plant. No other manufacturing facility would leak radiation into our groundwater. If, by some chance, any other manufacture DID leak radiation into our groundwater, and then LIED about it, they would be out of business. Just like most Vermonters hope will happen to you and your company. Your bosses lied. When people lie, other people don't want to do business with them any more. It's that simple.

You can gloss over and make light of all of the failures of this plant but you are not fooling anyone. Frankly, this shameless letter should be about enough for anyone to want to close this plant.
Why so angry

Bellows Falls, VT

#2 Oct 1, 2010
If you had the power and a gun, would you just line them all up shoot one at a time? Would that satisfy you. It must be hard to live up to or improve your own perfect standards.
Eaststardust

West Rutland, VT

#3 Oct 1, 2010
Youre-kidding-right wrote:
To Manu Sivaraman: You might be one of the most shameful people on the planet. You shamefully state, "As you also know if you have been reading the news, we have had problems here, too. They happen in any manufacturing facility -- but"
How dare you try to trivialize the leaks at your aged, obsolete plant. No other manufacturing facility would leak radiation into our groundwater. If, by some chance, any other manufacture DID leak radiation into our groundwater, and then LIED about it, they would be out of business. Just like most Vermonters hope will happen to you and your company. Your bosses lied. When people lie, other people don't want to do business with them any more. It's that simple.
You can gloss over and make light of all of the failures of this plant but you are not fooling anyone. Frankly, this shameless letter should be about enough for anyone to want to close this plant.

And you sir, how dare you sensationalize and fear monger when numerous independent / neutral experts and oversight committees? Experts such as the DOH, NRC, DPS, Vertical Audit (commissioned by VT Legislature…… have found the plant to have no adverse effect on the environment and the public’s health and that it can be operated safely and reliably over the next 20 years? Vermont Yankee is safe. I wouldn’t live in Vernon if it wasn’t.
I Know More Than You

Nashua, NH

#4 Oct 1, 2010
Youre-kidding-right wrote:
If, by some chance, any other manufacture DID leak radiation into our groundwater, and then LIED about it, they would be out of business.
You may one of the most ignorant people on the planet next to Northstaridiot.

A single tritium filled exit sign contains up to 10 times the amount of tritium that leaked from VY (assuming the leak went undetected for 3 years!)

http://www.hydroqual.com/publications/rdm_07_...

While everyone agrees that the tritium leak was unacceptable, the potential for harm was almost immeasurable. You would have done more environmental damage by dumping your used oil from one oil change down the storm sewer.

The more you idiots rant, rave, and lie, the more people will see you all for the ignorant ideologues you are. Keep up the good work.
Youre-kidding-ri ght

Harwich, MA

#5 Oct 2, 2010
Apparently I know More Than You doesn't know much at all, or would prefer to keep some inconvenient facts out the discussion. In addition to tritium, the plant leaked cesium, cobalt, and strontium. You won't find this highly radioactive materials in your exit lights. When you are done with your exit light it must be disposed of as radioactive waste; not tossed in the Ct. River.

To Eastardust, your so-called experts at DPS were told a dozen times about the underground pipes but did nothing about it until the pipes leaked. Also, the person who holds the title of State Nuclear Engineer is not a nuclear engineer. He has never built, never operated or never engineered a nuclear plant, so let's be just a little careful about tossing around experts, shall we?

The DPS ignored all warnings because they work for Gov. Douglas who is in the tank for VY.

Read the report in this paper on the NRC. They make FEMA look good. The NRC is funded by the nuclear industry. Need more be said?
Life is Good

West Rutland, VT

#6 Oct 2, 2010
Youre-kidding-right wrote:
Apparently I know More Than You doesn't know much at all, or would prefer to keep some inconvenient facts out the discussion. In addition to tritium, the plant leaked cesium, cobalt, and strontium. You won't find this highly radioactive materials in your exit lights. When you are done with your exit light it must be disposed of as radioactive waste; not tossed in the Ct. River.
To Eastardust, your so-called experts at DPS were told a dozen times about the underground pipes but did nothing about it until the pipes leaked. Also, the person who holds the title of State Nuclear Engineer is not a nuclear engineer. He has never built, never operated or never engineered a nuclear plant, so let's be just a little careful about tossing around experts, shall we?
The DPS ignored all warnings because they work for Gov. Douglas who is in the tank for VY.
Read the report in this paper on the NRC. They make FEMA look good. The NRC is funded by the nuclear industry. Need more be said?
Ok, So now your side is resorting to telling lies. Show us the documentation by a neutral party(s) supporting your claims. You can pick the experts as apparently, not even those chosen by the Vermont State Legislature met your standard of neutrality.
Life is Good

West Rutland, VT

#7 Oct 2, 2010
"The report also provides a long-term comparison of previous surveillance reports, which shows no significant increase in radiological exposures due to the plant's operation, including in the period following a 20 percent power uprate in 2006.

According to the report, samples of fish, milk, water, soil and sediment showed no levels of radioactivity "outside historical range."

The report also states "an analysis of health statistics for people who live in the communities surrounding Vermont Yankee shows that health outcomes do not differ significantly from people in the rest of Windham County, elsewhere in Vermont, or the U.S. as a whole."

DOH reviews data for new cancer cases (the incidence rate) and cancer mortality for Windham County and the six towns in the emergency preparedness zone. The rates calculated in the 2009 report were similar to those in the 2008 report, states the DOH.

According to a review of the data conducted by the DOH, cancer incidence in the EPZ is lower than in Windham County as a whole, the state and the country.

Incidence rates for invasive thyroid cancer and leukemia are no different from those in the county, the state or the nation, states the report.

However, the rate of cancer in children was not calculated as there were fewer than six cases over the time period studied, too few to make any statistical correlation.

DOH reviews data for new cancer cases (the incidence rate) and cancer mortality for Windham County and the six towns in the emergency preparedness zone. The rates calculated in the 2009 report were similar to those in the 2008 report, states the DOH.

According to a review of the data conducted by the DOH, cancer incidence in the EPZ is lower than in Windham County as a whole, the state and the country.

Incidence rates for invasive thyroid cancer and leukemia are no different from those in the county, the state or the nation, states the report.

However, the rate of cancer in children was not calculated as there were fewer than six cases over the time period studied, too few to make any statistical correlation.

DOH reviews data for new cancer cases (the incidence rate) and cancer mortality for Windham County and the six towns in the emergency preparedness zone. The rates calculated in the 2009 report were similar to those in the 2008 report, states the DOH.

According to a review of the data conducted by the DOH, cancer incidence in the EPZ is lower than in Windham County as a whole, the state and the country.

Incidence rates for invasive thyroid cancer and leukemia are no different from those in the county, the state or the nation, states the report.

However, the rate of cancer in children was not calculated as there were fewer than six cases over the time period studied, too few to make any statistical correlation.
Life is Good

West Rutland, VT

#8 Oct 2, 2010
Water from wells and waterways surrounding the station and milk from local dairy farms are sampled every month to determine the amount and identity of natural and human-made radioactivity within them.

Analysis of milk samples showed no radiation as a result of nuclear power generation, according to the report, and no water samples, including those taken at the Vernon Elementary School and the Brattleboro municipal water supply, were found to contain radionuclides attributable to the plant's operation.

No samples of vegetation showed radiation levels outside the historical range, states the report, nor did any of the soil samples.

The report states that radionuclides found in fish included potassium-40 and cesium-137.

"This cesium-137 is thought to be from atmospheric fallout from nuclear weapons testing in past decades and the nuclear accident at Chernobyl in 1986," states the report.

The fish that had detectable cesium-137 levels was caught in the Vernon Pond. All fish, from north of Brattleboro and from the Vernon Pond tested positive for potassium-40, which is naturally occurring.

Sediment samples taken from the bottom of the Connecticut River, including a location near a storm drain that was the source of cobalt-60 contamination in 1997, were within normal historical levels, according to the report.

Cobalt-60 was last detected in a sediment sample near the storm drain in 2004, states the report.

DOH has been monitoring and reporting on radiation emissions and radiological effluents from Yankee since 1971 to verify that it is operating within the limits of the state's radiological health rule.
I Know More Than You

Swanzey, NH

#9 Oct 2, 2010
Youre-kidding-right wrote:
Apparently I know More Than You doesn't know much at all, or would prefer to keep some inconvenient facts out the discussion. In addition to tritium, the plant leaked cesium, cobalt, and strontium. You won't find this highly radioactive materials in your exit lights. When you are done with your exit light it must be disposed of as radioactive waste; not tossed in the Ct. River.
The isotopes you mention were never found in any groundwater (no matter what Northstaridiot says) and the contaminated soil has been removed.

As for exit signs, it's clear you didn't read the link I provided or are too stupid to understand it, but tritium contamination of landfills is an issue.
Youre-kidding-right wrote:
He has never built, never operated or never engineered a nuclear plant, so let's be just a little careful about tossing around experts.
I'll remember this the next time I see a quote from Shadis and company.
Youre-kidding-right wrote:
The NRC is funded by the nuclear industry. Need more be said?
You are just ramping up up crazy to 11 now. The NRC is "funded" by charging for licenses and review fees. Just like numerous other gov't agencies. If they were funded just by taxpayers, you idiots you scream about that.
Smith15

Manchester, NH

#10 Oct 4, 2010
Youre-kidding-right wrote:
To Manu Sivaraman: You might be one of the most shameful people on the planet. You shamefully state, "As you also know if you have been reading the news, we have had problems here, too. They happen in any manufacturing facility -- but"
How dare you try to trivialize the leaks at your aged, obsolete plant. No other manufacturing facility would leak radiation into our groundwater. If, by some chance, any other manufacture DID leak radiation into our groundwater, and then LIED about it, they would be out of business. Just like most Vermonters hope will happen to you and your company. Your bosses lied. When people lie, other people don't want to do business with them any more. It's that simple.
You can gloss over and make light of all of the failures of this plant but you are not fooling anyone. Frankly, this shameless letter should be about enough for anyone to want to close this plant.
I humbly suggest that you attempt to understand the actual significance of the tritium leak - so as to have a rational perspective on this - and to get us over "trivializing" and "dramatizing" the impact of the leak. The science of radiation dose analysis has been internationally accepted for decades - have you heard any scientists state a dose? I haven't, I believe because the dose is nil to miniscule. In the big picture, we naturally receive notable amounts of radiation from natural sources (including from tritium). And very small doses are regularly determined - did you know that eating a banana gives you 0.01 mr? I believe that with a sincere effort ot gain knowledge of the science, you would develop a perspective on the tritium issue.
dingdingding

Holyoke, MA

#11 Oct 4, 2010
we naturally receive notable amounts of radiation from natural sources like the sun but if you stand under it too long you might get a sun burn and or cancer. are you saying thats ok and the warnings and sun screen are not needed? like electricity we need the sun but we can't shut the sun down. we can shut vy down though. watch and see.

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