Gun show injuries prompt concerns

Full story: The Clarion-Ledger

In the wake of a negligent gun discharge at a Tupelo gun show last weekend that injured a man and a 4-year-old child, gun enthusiasts are discussing safety measures at gun shows.
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Nov 14, 2012
 
"The Constitution protects the right "
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The bill of rights protects the rights as the constitution has been trashed according to Nancy.

We have a government that selectively enforces laws.
Tray

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Nov 15, 2012
 
Where Is My America wrote:
Do you deny the rioters were violent and were committing assaults and destroying public and private property? Do you deny they had attacked the guard first? Do you deny the rioters as a whole were endangering innocent citizens and their property for days before the guard was called in? What part of this shows I can't operate a car on private property without insurance, registration, license, or tag?
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#159
Nov 15, 2012
 
anon wrote:
"The Constitution protects the right "
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The bill of rights protects the rights as the constitution has been trashed according to Nancy.
We have a government that selectively enforces laws.
The government violates the Constitution and Bill of rights daily. Elected officials are more often corrupt and self serving than not. This is why there is a Second amendment, so in the event the people must they can defend their rights. The reason the military is broken into branches is to ensure the military has difficulty organizing and getting to much power or control. It is harder to corrupt separate entities than a single entity. Corruption only works if you have control over something. Your government employed mail carrier is probably not corrupt as what would be the point.
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Nov 15, 2012
 
"The government violates the Constitution and Bill of rights daily"
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As the leaders give the orders. It is up to the individual not to submit to government control. A person that follows orders is corrupt as the persons giving orders. Why would a person that admits corruption volunteer to be a part of it? Money and benefits?
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Nov 15, 2012
 
anon wrote:
"The government violates the Constitution and Bill of rights daily"
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As the leaders give the orders. It is up to the individual not to submit to government control. A person that follows orders is corrupt as the persons giving orders. Why would a person that admits corruption volunteer to be a part of it? Money and benefits?
Unfortunately we require a government to live in a civilization we have gotten use to. We just have to keep corruption to a minimum if possible. It's just the nature of the beast. A short leash works best but I promise they will always be pulling at that leash for a little more leeway. Give an inch they will take a mile.
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#162
Nov 15, 2012
 
"It's just the nature of the beast."
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You kill beasts that are a problem. It is part of the worlds on going history.
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Nov 16, 2012
 
anon wrote:
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You kill beasts that are a problem. It is part of the worlds on going history.
Great idea but what then? The government is there to provide for the people things and services an individual could not accomplish alone. The building of roads, the creation and enforcement of laws that are needed, the defense of our nation as a whole, power grids, water and gas service, education facilities and teachers, postal service the list goes on and on. Humans are corruptible and when placed in a position of power over others they tend to abuse that power as I said it's just the nature of the beast. This is not only true in government but anything or anywhere humans are involved.
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Nov 16, 2012
 
Most all services can be handled by private pay as you go business. The main thing that is needed is a dispute settlement arbitration which also an be private. You do not need laws only guidelines. Very few things would fall into the absolute.

Abuse of power would meet abuse of enforcement by those abused. The consequences would be a deterrent to treating people poorly. Many that have no sense would not live long.
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<quoted text> Great idea but what then? The government is there to provide for the people things and services an individual could not accomplish alone. The building of roads, the creation and enforcement of laws that are needed, the defense of our nation as a whole, power grids, water and gas service, education facilities and teachers, postal service the list goes on and on. Humans are corruptible and when placed in a position of power over others they tend to abuse that power as I said it's just the nature of the beast. This is not only true in government but anything or anywhere humans are involved.
"Humans are corruptible and when placed in a position of power over others they tend to abuse that power as I said it's just the nature of the beast."

It doesn't have to be that way, not at all, and in fact, such a situation can indeed be prevented entirely.
People should not be elected to public office. Rather, every citizen should be made to serve in public office for no more than a year, and then return to private life.
Further, no person in those offices would have any power at all to make law. Instead, what they would do is take suggestions from their own fellow citizens and present them to the committees, boards, assemblies, or legislatures as applicable. There they would hash out whether or not to address those matter insofar as that particular body might possess the power to do anything at all.
Once they arrived at a decision, they would make a proposal to the states, wherein those assemblies would give the idea an up or down vote, and the present the matter to the people in a quarterly plebiscite.
It would take not less than 80% of all registered voters to approve of the law, or act. Any person vote nay on the matter would be exempt from paying for the administration of the law or act.
Of course that means that your vote would be public, and recorded. Before you object, remember this: You already know how your elected representatives vote, and if you attend a political rally, or place signs on your lawn during an election, then everybody knows how you voted anyway.
No law would be allowed which violated individual human rights.
Finally, all laws. excepting the various constitutions of the states, would sunset three years after their approval. It would again require that same 80% approval to continue for another three years. Lacking the 80%, the proposal would not appear again for at least 20 years.
Few laws, maximum freedom, and no tyranny of the majority.
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Most all services can be handled by private pay as you go business. The main thing that is needed is a dispute settlement arbitration which also an be private. You do not need laws only guidelines. Very few things would fall into the absolute.
Abuse of power would meet abuse of enforcement by those abused. The consequences would be a deterrent to treating people poorly. Many that have no sense would not live long.
Very much agree!
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#167
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Better idea. Any public official caught violating the public trust would be hanged in a public area. The problem with government corruption is no deterrent is there. Sense they are granted powers over the public welfare and service they should be held to a much higher standard than the average citizen. ANY crime or misuse of power should be a hanging offense. I think we should have a special word for that crime. Treason sounds about right to me.
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"The problem with government corruption is no deterrent is there."
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They control the enforcement. Selective enforcement is why we live under tyranny.

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