New York newspaper to list more gun permit holders after uproar

Dec 29, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WTAX-AM Springfield

A suburban New York newspaper that sparked an uproar among gun enthusiasts by publishing names and addresses of residents holding pistol permits is now planning to publish even more identities of permit-toting locals.

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Tray wrote:
<quoted text> It means I'm armed.
There's no such thing as a "CCW OWNER", LOL.

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When was the last time you carried a loaded firearm in public?
You're a proven antigun communist and liar.

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<quoted text>You're a proven antigun communist and liar.
Proven by whom? Only in your mind noid.

I think itís funny you claim Iím a communist simply because I donít like Walmart.
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Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>There's no such thing as a "CCW OWNER", LOL.
Concealed Carry Weapon (that is a permit)(small plastic card). I also am a gun owner. I own and carry both. Surely you understand that. Would a picture help?

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Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Concealed Carry Weapon (that is a permit)(small plastic card). I also am a gun owner. I own and carry both. Surely you understand that. Would a picture help?
The state owns your permit, they are permitting you concealed carry privileges.

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Proven by whom? Only in your mind noid.
I think itís funny you claim Iím a communist simply because I donít like Walmart.
You're antigun, a communist, and a cop collaborator. Cops are thiefs, vandals, rapists, and murderers. All school shooting rampages are deliberately instigated by police. The Sandy Hook school shooting was instigagted by police; if not for police the shooting would not happen. Cops are baby-killers too. eternal cynic has admitted to selling guns at a gun store; this is proof he reports his gun sales to police. I had many problems buying guns at stores that had police or police collaborators working the gun counter.

Anytime I expose antigun cops and their collaborators, the local police send loud vehicles past my home thru-out the day. Police have vandalized my property too.

For anyone interested read post #47 to understand the proof eternal cynic is a communist:

http://www.topix.com/forum/guns/TS2SOIQKVR8M8...
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<quoted text>The state owns your permit, they are permitting you concealed carry privileges.
The state may cancel the card but it's in my pocket and I own it. I don't have a "privilege" I have a right. But until the courts rule on the law I will ATTEMPT to follow said law. I carried long before this stupid law and will continue no matter how the law changes but my rights are not up for negotiation.

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Tray wrote:
<quoted text> The state may cancel the card but it's in my pocket and I own it. I don't have a "privilege" I have a right. But until the courts rule on the law I will ATTEMPT to follow said law. I carried long before this stupid law and will continue no matter how the law changes but my rights are not up for negotiation.
The sad thing in New York is that each handgun is registered on the permit. If your permit is revoked or suspended you must turn your handguns in to the pistol permit office in your County. Sometimes a notice is sent to turn them in but other times the police show up with a warrant to confiscate them. That sure says INFRINGED to me.....
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<quoted text>The sad thing in New York is that each handgun is registered on the permit. If your permit is revoked or suspended you must turn your handguns in to the pistol permit office in your County. Sometimes a notice is sent to turn them in but other times the police show up with a warrant to confiscate them. That sure says INFRINGED to me.....
Yet the thousands of gang members don't apply for permits or really care what the law says. The police, the city, or the state can't seem to do anything about that. Of course there are thousands of guns in New York in the hands of ordinary citizens, their just not stupid enough to tell the Nazi's. My state (among many) want you to have a permit but I know for a fact in my area at least twice as many carry without a permit as those who have one. All those I know are ordinary law abiding citizens and upstanding members of the community. With about 280,000,000 guns (and climbing) in the hands of citizens it would take a lot of cops to try to take them. People who have served and is serving in the military, police officers retired and active, many governors, mayors, ex and active government employees, teachers, firefighters, doctors, nurses, lawyers, judges, ex presidents and vice presidents and the lists go on and on. Would you want to the leader of the country that made them all criminals just for exercising their constitutionally protected rights? Oh I forgot, most secret service members are also private gun owners. Don't stab the guy in the back who's watching YOUR back.

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<quoted text> Yet the thousands of gang members don't apply for permits or really care what the law says. The police, the city, or the state can't seem to do anything about that. Of course there are thousands of guns in New York in the hands of ordinary citizens, their just not stupid enough to tell the Nazi's. My state (among many) want you to have a permit but I know for a fact in my area at least twice as many carry without a permit as those who have one. All those I know are ordinary law abiding citizens and upstanding members of the community. With about 280,000,000 guns (and climbing) in the hands of citizens it would take a lot of cops to try to take them. People who have served and is serving in the military, police officers retired and active, many governors, mayors, ex and active government employees, teachers, firefighters, doctors, nurses, lawyers, judges, ex presidents and vice presidents and the lists go on and on. Would you want to the leader of the country that made them all criminals just for exercising their constitutionally protected rights? Oh I forgot, most secret service members are also private gun owners. Don't stab the guy in the back who's watching YOUR back.
I fully agree with what you are saying. Criminals do not follow laws and all the laws passed will not stop them.
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<quoted text>I fully agree with what you are saying. Criminals do not follow laws and all the laws passed will not stop them.
One would think, criminals are criminals because they break laws would be easy to grasp but somehow..........

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<quoted text> The state may cancel the card but it's in my pocket and I own it. I don't have a "privilege" I have a right.
Nope, you're way off, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege...keeping (owning) and bearing (open carry) are rights.

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Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, you're way off, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege...keeping (owning) and bearing (open carry) are rights.
BEARING defined: having, carrying.

Since when did 'BEARING' indicate OPEN only ?

BEARING doesn't discriminate against exposed or concealed. BEARING is either or.
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Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, you're way off, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege...keeping (owning) and bearing (open carry) are rights.
We have been down this road. NOWHERE is BEAR spelled out to be open. These ILLEGAL laws are being struck down and it's just a matter of time before SCOTUS is forced to face the Constitution.

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<quoted text>You're antigun, a communist, and a cop collaborator. Cops are thiefs, vandals, rapists, and murderers. All school shooting rampages are deliberately instigated by police. The Sandy Hook school shooting was instigagted by police; if not for police the shooting would not happen. Cops are baby-killers too. eternal cynic has admitted to selling guns at a gun store; this is proof he reports his gun sales to police. I had many problems buying guns at stores that had police or police collaborators working the gun counter.
Anytime I expose antigun cops and their collaborators, the local police send loud vehicles past my home thru-out the day. Police have vandalized my property too.
For anyone interested read post #47 to understand the proof eternal cynic is a communist:
http://www.topix.com/forum/guns/TS2SOIQKVR8M8...
You need to lay off the drugs. Seek professional help. Even ISRA doesnít like you. Now itís time you call them anti-gun as well.

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Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, you're way off, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege...keeping (owning) and bearing (open carry) are rights.
In New York the Right to own pertains only to rifles and shotguns. Handguns are a Permit Only item even for your private dwelling. That is the direct result of The Sullivan Act of 1911. A law sponsored by the biggest crook in the State to make sure that only HIS people were given the permits.

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Tray wrote:
<quoted text> One would think, criminals are criminals because they break laws would be easy to grasp but somehow..........
Tray, never underestimate the power of stupidity. Laws only pertain to them that are inclined to follow laws to begin with. Criminals are only affected by laws when they are caught and even then the great institution of the Plea Bargain lessens their sentence.
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<quoted text>Tray, never underestimate the power of stupidity. Laws only pertain to them that are inclined to follow laws to begin with. Criminals are only affected by laws when they are caught and even then the great institution of the Plea Bargain lessens their sentence.
%0 of criminals killed by armed victims ever re offend. Even criminals are not as stupid as some liberals,%57 fear an armed victim more than police.
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The Freedom of Information Law-FOIL allows the clerk to with hold names and/or information that may cause harm to an individual.

http://www.theexaminernews.com/putnam-county-...

How is arbitrarily listing a guns owner NOT putting them endanger? Why can't social security numbers be published in most places then. It's frequently on the 'public' records being requested.

There is the business of government/public and then there is the government business of an individual which should be discrete if not private.

To top it off this newspaper didn't even write a good article or put it into perspective. If I recall correctly most writing classes tell you to narrow the topic and come of with a thesis. The paper really didn't put the list into perspective. It's one thing to say certain neighborhoods have 50% gun ownership but to arbitrarily list individual names is another. Safety-give me a break-What is the actual illegal unsafe act these gun owners are committing?
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Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, you're way off, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege...keeping (owning) and bearing (open carry) are rights.
I donít see anywhere ďto keepĒ or ďbearĒ in the 2A refers to the location own, open or concealed. I consider it my decision how my weapon will be carried and where I keep it.
The interpretation of the 2A straight forward and requires no compromises.

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