Area gun sales, fears rising

Area gun sales, fears rising

There are 7568 comments on the North Port Sun story from Nov 14, 2012, titled Area gun sales, fears rising. In it, North Port Sun reports that:

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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#819 Dec 9, 2012
duh wrote:
<quoted text>
...but not be job-locked because a child has a child has asthma or diabetes or someone in the family is bipolar. You name it, any condition is job-locking....
That's NOT what she said.

There is NO implication of sick children or disabled family members.

Try again.
Dr Freud

Lithuania

#820 Dec 9, 2012
duh wrote:
<quoted text>
...but not be job-locked because a child has a child has asthma or diabetes or someone in the family is bipolar. You name it, any condition is job-locking....
Allow me to enquire: Is it your thought that everyone should be 'insured' regardless?
Insurance is, in it's most basic essence, a 'gamble' that something 'won't' happen, based on chance.
So, how does FORCING an insurer (or anyone else) to accept as a condition of contract, a KNOWN contract failure, somehow fair, right, and proper?
What you seemingly desire is the essence of this: Every person walking into a place of gambling, should be assured that no matter how much they irresponsibly gamble their money, they will in the end win money, i.e., even if they lose, they will win.
Something else: So-called 'health insurance' is no such thing. In the entirely modern sense, it's become nothing short of an extortion racket, because now that YOUR U.S. government has set the stage for you to MANDATORILY pay that tax, you MUST NOW pay exorbitant fees, themselves which will be given to the very corrupt corporations who will thence declare that YOU ARE TOO SICK TO TREAT, and you'll be kicked to the curb, while THEY CONTINUE to collect YOUR TAX MONEY!
Feeling good yet, about YOUR 'Obama care' taxes?
Whenever YOU ask government to 'do something' for you, then be EXPECTING a darned good SCREW JOB!
So, don't forget to bring along that jar of petroleum jelly when you go to make a medical claim ... You're gonna need it!
Cat74

United States

#821 Dec 9, 2012
So you buy Apple, but pray it isn't a Monday product. Monday the products are subject to how much the worker celebrated over the weekend. The rest of us will look for quality workmanship.
Now

Huntsville, AL

#822 Dec 9, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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You made the same typo that you made earlier. Did you copy and paste from your talking point source?
wtf are you talking about?
So still

Huntsville, AL

#825 Dec 9, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
That's NOT what she said.
There is NO implication of sick children or disabled family members.
Try again.
playing stupid or simply lying? So when it is right there in her own words you can't admit it?

"Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer, a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance. Or that people could start a business and be entrepreneurial and take risks, but not be job-locked because a child has a child has asthma or diabetes or someone in the family is bipolar. You name it, any condition is job-locking. Think of a situation where we can be internationally competitive because we don't have this weight on us that other countries, that other businesses really don't have in other countries because they don't have this expense of health care which will all be reined in, those costs, under this bill.

We cannot afford the status quo. We will make this difference, and it will make a wonderful difference in the lives of our people, but also in the vitality of our economy"

So still

Huntsville, AL

#829 Dec 9, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
That's NOT what she said.
There is NO implication of sick children or disabled family members.
Try again.
trying to play stupid?

"This is about health care for all Americans. And those who want the bill to fail hijacked the good intentions of others who have concerns about federal funding of abortion and should turn it into a conversation about that.

But the more we talk about that, the less we talk about innovation and prevention and wellness; about affordability for America‘s middle income families; about access to those who have not been able to access health care before; about holding insurance companies accountable; ending any denial of access to health care because of preexisting condition; capping of the—of premiums but not capping the benefits either annually or on a life time basis, about what it does for children and young people to stay on their parents‘ policy until they are 26 years old; what it does for seniors in terms of closing the donut hole.

If you are not a senior, which you are not, but which I am, you know, don‘t (INAUDIBLE) all means—but it makes purchasing pharmaceutical drugs -- prescription drugs more affordable for them. And if you are a woman, women have so much to gain from this bill.

Right up until now, being a woman is a preexisting medical condition. If you are a woman, if you are in child-bearing age and you have children, it‘s a preexisting condition. If you can‘t have children, it‘s a preexisting condition. If you have a C-section, it‘s a preexisting condition. If you are a victim of domestic abuse, it is a preexisting condition.

So, you can‘t—everybody has so much to gain from this, small businesses, as I said, seniors, young people, women, our economy. Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance or that people could start a business and be entrepreneurial and take risk, but not job loss because of a child with asthma or someone in the family is bipolar—you name it, any condition—is job locking.

Think of a situation where we can internationally competitive because we don‘t have this weight on us that other country—other businesses really don‘t have in other countries because they don‘t have this expense of health care which will all be reined in, those costs under this bill.

We cannot afford the status quo. We will make this difference and it will make a wonderful difference in the lives of our people, but also, in the vitality of our economy. That‘s what we want people to talk about."

“Antisocialistic”

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#830 Dec 10, 2012
Now wrote:
<quoted text>wtf are you talking about?
You wrote:
...but not be job-locked because a child has a child has asthma or diabetes or someone in the family is bipolar. You name it, any condition is job-locking....

Notice: because a child has a child has asthma...

I've seen that exact post at least twice from you. It appears that you are copy and pasting from your talking points source.
That's what I'm talking about.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#831 Dec 10, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Now who's playing dumb? We already established labor is cheap in China. The question was, why is it worth it to move a factory to China just for cheap labor?
Labor is one of the easiest cost to control for a greedy CEO and a greedy Wall Street.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#832 Dec 10, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
The NRA made $442 million dollars last year off people who never have to be afraid. Not even in the shower!! Guns are the great equalizers. At 5 feet tall, 140 pounds I am as tough as an NFL football player. I guarantee if the girl friend of that half brain dead. drugged up football player had had a gun she would be alive today.
An orderly, well-policed society with far, far fewer guns would be a safer one. Once you go down the road of heavily-armed citizens, there's no going back. You're back to the Wild West eventually, with citizens settling all accounts with guns.

Having a gun in the house is why Belcher's girlfriend died. She was unable to protect herself with a gun, but was instead killed with one. Your self-defense theory just went out the window.

Evidence he was "drugged up," incidentally?

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#833 Dec 10, 2012
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
An orderly, well-policed society with far, far fewer guns would be a safer one. Once you go down the road of heavily-armed citizens, there's no going back. You're back to the Wild West eventually, with citizens settling all accounts with guns.
Having a gun in the house is why Belcher's girlfriend died. She was unable to protect herself with a gun, but was instead killed with one. Your self-defense theory just went out the window.
Evidence he was "drugged up," incidentally?
Your first sentence is almost a direct quote from Hitler.

There is no historical evidence for your theory .

Belcher's girl friend died because one human being decided to take the life of another.

He could have just beat the sh!t out of her but he was to lazy for that.

Your thinking is quite simple , ironic you would call yourself "The Professor".
I guess

Huntsville, AL

#834 Dec 10, 2012
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>Your first sentence is almost a direct quote from Hitler.
There is no historical evidence for your theory .
Belcher's girl friend died because one human being decided to take the life of another.
He could have just beat the sh!t out of her but he was to lazy for that.
Your thinking is quite simple , ironic you would call yourself "The Professor".
you'd know LOL.

Please n - obody is talking about killing Jews or invading Poland. Don't pull out the Hitler card when dealing with rational people.
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#835 Dec 10, 2012
Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives
Liberals think they’re more intelligent than conservatives because they are

It is difficult to define a whole school of political ideology precisely, but one may reasonably define liberalism (as opposed to conservatism) in the contemporary United States as the genuine concern for the welfare of genetically unrelated others and the willingness to contribute larger proportions of private resources for the welfare of such others. In the modern political and economic context, this willingness usually translates into paying higher proportions of individual incomes in taxes toward the government and its social welfare programs. Liberals usually support such social welfare programs and higher taxes to finance them, and conservatives usually oppose them.

Defined as such, liberalism is evolutionarily novel. Humans (like other species) are evolutionarily designed to be altruistic toward their genetic kin, their friends and allies, and members of their deme (a group of intermarrying individuals) or ethnic group. They are not designed to be altruistic toward an indefinite number of complete strangers whom they are not likely ever to meet or interact with. This is largely because our ancestors lived in a small band of 50-150 genetically related individuals, and large cities and nations with thousands and millions of people are themselves evolutionarily novel.

The examination of the 10-volume compendium The Encyclopedia of World Cultures, which describes all human cultures known to anthropology (more than 1,500) in great detail, as well as extensive primary ethnographies of traditional societies, reveals that liberalism as defined above is absent in these traditional cultures. While sharing of resources, especially food, is quite common and often mandatory among hunter-gatherer tribes, and while trade with neighboring tribes often takes place, there is no evidence that people in contemporary hunter-gatherer bands freely share resources with members of other tribes.

Because all members of a hunter-gatherer tribe are genetic kin or at the very least friends and allies for life, sharing resources among them does not qualify as an expression of liberalism as defined above. Given its absence in the contemporary hunter-gatherer tribes, which are often used as modern-day analogs of our ancestral life, it may be reasonable to infer that sharing of resources with total strangers that one has never met or is not likely ever to meet – that is, liberalism – was not part of our ancestral life. Liberalism may therefore be evolutionarily novel, and the Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely than less intelligent individuals to espouse liberalism as a value.

Analyses of large representative samples, from both the United States and the United Kingdom, confirm this prediction. In both countries, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to be liberals than less intelligent children. For example, among the American sample, those who identify themselves as “very liberal” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 106.4, whereas those who identify themselves as “very conservative” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 94.8.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#836 Dec 10, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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I'm just curious, what deal did Obama have with Clinton? Enquirer minds want to know.
Supposedly Obama agreed to pick the next DNC Chairperson from a list of people Clinton favored and to announce support for a Hillary run in '16. Weeell,its been a long campaign season and Obama felt comfortable with the job Debbie Wasserman Schultz as DNC Chair cause he reappointed her and completely dissed Bill's list. And the Hillary support? Uh,Bill got told that 2016 is a long ways off and besides that Obama has a full plate with the fiscal cliff thingy and all. Apparently Clinton had a royal hissy and his people were so concerned they called a Doctor just in case he burst a vessel.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#837 Dec 10, 2012
JusttheFacts wrote:
<quoted text>Taxes on business have never caused one to fail. Taxes on a business is based on profit. Business makes money they pay taxes. No profit then no taxes. You Repub always list the problem coming from the poor. How about the fact that most millionaires and billionaires now pay a tax rate of 15%. How about the fact that America spends more than the next 10 nations on defense combined. How about the fact that the rich CEOs have closed 22,000 factories in the US over the past 20 years leaving 5.5 million without a job. And I did mean the RICH CEOs did it. I have never heard of a worker on a factory floor tell his fellow workers we need to close and ship this to China.
Born stupid and been losing ground ever since.....
And

Huntsville, AL

#838 Dec 10, 2012
okimar wrote:
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.
of course you have special insider knowledge of all of this. LOL
Sorry

Huntsville, AL

#839 Dec 10, 2012
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>

Born stupid and been losing ground ever since.....
to hear that about you, but good that you admit it.

We progressives continually move forward, so please get out of the way.
Besara

Omaha, NE

#841 Dec 10, 2012
Ratfuck wrote:
Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives
Liberals think they’re more intelligent than conservatives because they are
It is difficult to define a whole school of political ideology precisely, but one may reasonably define liberalism (as opposed to conservatism) in the contemporary United States as the genuine concern for the welfare of genetically unrelated others and the willingness to contribute larger proportions of private resources for the welfare of such others. In the modern political and economic context, this willingness usually translates into paying higher proportions of individual incomes in taxes toward the government and its social welfare programs. Liberals usually support such social welfare programs and higher taxes to finance them, and conservatives usually oppose them.
Defined as such, liberalism is evolutionarily novel. Humans (like other species) are evolutionarily designed to be altruistic toward their genetic kin, their friends and allies, and members of their deme (a group of intermarrying individuals) or ethnic group. They are not designed to be altruistic toward an indefinite number of complete strangers whom they are not likely ever to meet or interact with. This is largely because our ancestors lived in a small band of 50-150 genetically related individuals, and large cities and nations with thousands and millions of people are themselves evolutionarily novel.
The examination of the 10-volume compendium The Encyclopedia of World Cultures, which describes all human cultures known to anthropology (more than 1,500) in great detail, as well as extensive primary ethnographies of traditional societies, reveals that liberalism as defined above is absent in these traditional cultures. While sharing of resources, especially food, is quite common and often mandatory among hunter-gatherer tribes, and while trade with neighboring tribes often takes place, there is no evidence that people in contemporary hunter-gatherer bands freely share resources with members of other tribes.
Because all members of a hunter-gatherer tribe are genetic kin or at the very least friends and allies for life, sharing resources among them does not qualify as an expression of liberalism as defined above. Given its absence in the contemporary hunter-gatherer tribes, which are often used as modern-day analogs of our ancestral life, it may be reasonable to infer that sharing of resources with total strangers that one has never met or is not likely ever to meet – that is, liberalism – was not part of our ancestral life. Liberalism may therefore be evolutionarily novel, and the Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely than less intelligent individuals to espouse liberalism as a value.
Analyses of large representative samples, from both the United States and the United Kingdom, confirm this prediction. In both countries, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to be liberals than less intelligent children. For example, among the American sample, those who identify themselves as “very liberal” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 106.4, whereas those who identify themselves as “very conservative” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 94.8.
Just more garbage as was exposed here.
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/3717-hoax-s...

Keep digging, Ratfuck.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#842 Dec 10, 2012
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>Your first sentence is almost a direct quote from Hitler.
There is no historical evidence for your theory .
Belcher's girl friend died because one human being decided to take the life of another.
He could have just beat the sh!t out of her but he was to lazy for that.
Your thinking is quite simple , ironic you would call yourself "The Professor".
You're a liar on all counts. Unsurprising for a gun nut.

Cite the Hitler quote, if you would. Although I COULD say you've already lost by implying I'm a Nazi.

Historical evidence? Britain, most of Europe, Japan, they have all restricted personal gun ownership and yet seen MUCH lower crime rates than the U.S. You were saying? Most fatal use of guns in America involved homicides, mostly domestic, or suicides. You were saying?

Belcher could've beaten his girlfriend. His large arsenal of guns made it easier just to shoot her multiple times. More fatal, too.

Calling him "lazy" would, IMO, also add "racist" to my description of you and your post.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#843 Dec 10, 2012
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Born stupid and been losing ground ever since.....
Another brilliant rebuttal from a clueless member of the far right.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#844 Dec 10, 2012
tha Professor wrote:
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Another brilliant rebuttal from a clueless member of the far right.
Fine observation from the peanut gallery. I expected no less from a member of a movement that isn't what it's self describing title says it is. Progressive.... HA HA HA HA HA RE-gressive or better yet RE-pressive is more like it.

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