Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 Full story: North Port Sun 7,569

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#2756 Jan 11, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
The people who wrote the Constitution lived in a small rural country, huddled along the Eastern Seaboard with a population of 3.5 Million — a large part of which was financed by slave labor ... many of them believed that it was okay to own other human beings. Almost all of them believed that women should have no role in public affairs. Almost all of them believed people without property have no role in public affairs and no right to cast a vote. Why on earth would anybody think that their decisions ought to bind us now being that huge country with a population of 315 Million? So whenever we discuss something like gun control or national healthcare, before you know it, we're off and running on a completely irrelevant conversation about what people thought 250 years ago, instead of addressing the real problem.
The real problem is government trying to handle every personal and social affair. Look at us today! 16 trillion in debt and growing. Had we listened to those chauvinistic slave owners, we not only would not have a debt, but we would have much lower taxes and probably a surplus. Plus our federal government would not have nearly the control over the people as they do today.

Half the people in our country rely on a federal government check either to supplement their income or are entirely dependent on federal government. And you have the balls to criticize our founding fathers? If they could come back to life, they would laugh at us.

How did it get this way? We allowed people with little or no skin in the game to vote on representatives to steal money from those who have it to give to those who don't. So just allowing landowners to vote was not such a bad idea. Why should people with nothing be able to vote to take my money?

Now those people on these social programs have it better than the working. They have a larger family, eat better, and have better medical care than those who work for it. But we aren't wrong--the founders were.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#2757 Jan 11, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. The Obama administration is the best thing that ever happened to the right wing nut industry. Glenn Beck would never have had a TV show, or sold as many of his "books" to so many suckers, if there had been no Obama administration.
Glenn Beck? You mean the same Glenn Beck who contacted Gore to buy his worthless television station but instead, refused to deal with him and sell it to Al Jazeera? You know, he had to sell it right away before those new taxes on the evil rich became law.

Hypocrites. Every last one of them.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#2758 Jan 11, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Will you be testifying at Zimmerman's trial, since you were there and saw what happened? I think you should. Zimmerman needs you to tell the jury what you saw.
Like you, I am also outraged at this terrible miscarriage of justice. I mean, i shudder everytime I think of that lousy Trayvon Martin, who was armed to the teeth with a bag of Skittles, attacking poor George Zimmerman, who had nothing but a pistol to defend himself with.
Lesson: Don't attack people and you won't get shot by the good guys.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#2759 Jan 11, 2013
The Pro wrote:
Funny the President has plenty of guns protecting his family. I dont think the weapons protecting his family will have restricted magazines. Im not some doomsday nutt either but I believe they have the right to defend themselves. I think HI CAP mags are great and fun. Its not our fault some mad man feels the need to shoot kids. It is the governments fault for not protecting them with the same firepower they protect themselves with.
Liberal theme "Do as I say, not as I do."
no one no where

Santa Barbara, CA

#2760 Jan 11, 2013
YES lets band guns. I'm sure the crazies and the criminals will follow the laws and we will no longer have gun crimes. It will work just like when we band poverty in America. While at it lets band wars and deaths.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#2761 Jan 11, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>The two things liberals both hate and fear the most. They hate religion for the flaws it shows in their choices of morality. Guns because it prevents them from exercising their control over people who want nothing to do with their corrupt ideology.
No, I just don't need Crutches or Fairy Tales!
Drink the hivE

New York, NY

#2762 Jan 11, 2013
That Is The Paradox - Almost Any Idea We Can Program Into Our Brain Came From Somewhere Else - Every Idea Imaginable Exists Within The Collective Consciousness Of Humanity...

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xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#2763 Jan 11, 2013
DOJ: 95% Drop in Youth Victimized by Guns; 6x More Likely to be Victimized by Knife; Children of Unmarried 3.8x More Likely To Be Victims
By Terence P. Jeffrey
January 11, 2013

CNSNews.com )- A new Justice Department study looking at violent crimes committed against “youth”—defined as Americans from 12 to 17 years of age—discovered that the rate of "serious violent crime" committed against youth by a perpetrator using a firearm dropped 95 percent from 1994 to 2010.

The study—“Violent Crime Against Youth, 1994-2010”--also discovered that American youth who were victims of a serious violent crime in 2010 were six times more likely to have been attacked by a perpetrator wielding a knife than one wielding a gun.

Serious violent crimes against youth perpetrated at schools dropped 62 percent from 1994 to 2010, said the study, and students were less likely to become victims of a serious violent crime at school than they were away from school. In 2010, 6.6 out of every 1,000 youth became victims of a serious violent crime at school while 7.4 of every 1,000 became victims of a serious violent crime away from school.

The study, released Dec. 20, also discovered that an American youth was 3.8 times more likely to become the victim of a serious violent crime if he or she lived in a home where the householder was unmarried than if he or she lived with married parents. In 2010, 7.4 out of every 1,000 youth living with married parents became the victims of a serious violent crime. At the same time, 27.8 out of every 1,000 living with an unmarried householder became the victims of a serious violent crime.

Back in 1994, an American youth was slightly more likely to be victimized with a knife than with a gun. But that has changed dramatically in recent years, according to the study.

In 1994, 11.4 out of 1,000 youth became the victims of a serious violent crime committed by a perpetrator with a firearm; and 11.8 out of 1,000 youth became the victims of a serious violent crime committed by a perpetrator with a knife. By 2010, however, only 0.6 out of 1,000 youth were victimized in a serious violent crime committed by a perpetrator with a firearm, while 3.7 out of 1,000 youth were victimized in a serious violent crime committed by a perpetrator with a knife.

The study defined “serious violent crimes” as rape, other sexual assaults, robbery and aggravated assault.

The study also notes that homicides among American youth declined by 65 percent from 1993 to 2010, dropping from 8.4 per 100,000 youth to 3.0 per 100,000 youth.

Between 1994 and 2010, there was also a drop of 78 percent in the number of American youth who were "injured" by a serious violent crime. In 1994, 19.2 out of every 1,000 youth were injured by a serious violent crime, while in 2010 only 4.2 percent were injured by a serious violent crime.

The studies statistics on non-homicide violent crimes was based on annual surveys of American youth conducted by the Census Bureau. In 2010, the Census Bureau interviewed a random sampling of 73,300 youth for the study.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/doj-95-drop-y...

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2764 Jan 12, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Read Reagan's memoirs, read Zimmerman's court transcripts, I don't give a flying f*** about the KKK, your ignorance is spectacular ... if you have problems reading, ask your little sister to read it for you!!!
It was *you* that brought the KKK into the discussion.
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>The Ku Klux Klan was founded in order to seize guns from free blacks.
When your statement is proven wrong you claim you don’t care.

I’ve read all publically available information on the Zimmerman case. Nowhere does he say he would have stayed in his car if unarmed. You make shit up and then assume it must be true. Prove your assertion.

Reagan was never worried about the Black Panthers. He did sign legislation aimed at controlling the Black Panthers. Just as any governor would sign legislation designed to control gangs. When called on to prove he was afraid you mention his memoirs.

What’s amusing about you is anyone that disagrees with you must be stupid. Even if they provide evidence you’re wrong. That makes you willfully ignorant.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2765 Jan 12, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, don't want to give up your automatic weapons? Fine, then you should have to get your ammo like one has to get any other controlled substance prescriptions – through a numbered window, recorded in triplicate and not to exceed a certain number within a regulated time period. Smart and effective gun control that protects society has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment at all! Qualified people certainly have the right to own or carry but the government has a duty and responsibility to regulate the sale and ‘the carry’ of guns. The notion that a mob of people are ready and equipped to take on the US Gov’t is comical at best. Besides, don’t you think we're pretty damn safe from that scary tyrannical rule propagated by the NRA?
Yes, shall we do that with everyone you buy as well? There are already billions of rounds of ammo in circulation. Myself I have more than 40,000 rounds of ammunition. Not because I’m stockpiling but because I have a large variety of weapons I use at the range. It’s disappointing when I run out of a particular caliber.

You’re going on about the NRA again. An organization you know very little about. You simply repeat the media sound bites. May I assume when you see a 20 second news segment on an issue you believe you know everything you need to know about it? Quit being so lazy, do some real research.

Why do liberals always believe if you restrict something crime will dissipate? Craft a law and crime will be eliminated or reduced. Laws do not prevent crime, they only allow for punishment.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2766 Jan 12, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a Republican nor am I a Democrat; I am a social liberal and fiscal conservative. I hold just about all politicians in equally low regard, the only exceptions being those I hold in utter contempt. I also think the establishment two-party system in Washington is a recipe for disaster! Something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to the American economy is congress ... let’s face it, the guys who rejected the English Monarchy and opted for a liberal constitution instead were outrageous progressive at the time!
You finally made some rational points. I agree with some of what you state here.

Our biggest threat to the economy currently is our president and the left leaning members of Congress. I have no issue with a tax increase, in fact I would tolerate a larger tax increase despite the fact I’m already paying just over $40k annually in federal income tax. Increasing taxes and spending both will not solve the problem. Social entitlement programs and military expenditure must both be cut. Our current social programs will ultimately bankrupt this nation. Any politician that goes near cutting those programs is immediately called a racist.

Imagine the tax cut that could be possible if we weren’t spending so much servicing the debt.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2767 Jan 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Bull. Congress is not responsible for the lack of jobs--DumBama is.
It's funny how nothing negative is DumBama's fault. If it's not Bush, it's the Republican Congress. If it's not the Republican Congress, it's Japanese earthquakes. If it's not Japanese earthquakes, it's ATM machines. If it's not ATM machines, it's tsunamis.
In four years from now, you will continue to make excuses for this incompetent. How do I know? Because that's what I told you leftists before DumBama's first year was up in the White House.
There are many reasons business isn’t creating more jobs. Obama doesn’t own all the blame. Congress owns some of it, state regulations own some of it and local regulations own some of it as well.

The county where I live charges huge new construction environmental fees. Those fees are turned over to education, nothing to do with the environment. We were looking at building a new facility to expand. The environment fees would have been nearly half a million dollars. The expansion would have brought 60 new well-paying jobs. We’ve placed the plans on hold indefinitely.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2768 Jan 12, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
He's never done anything of note? Well, you might want to "note" that he has won 2 Presidential elections. How many did Romney win again?
Obama winning twice is proof of nothing Obama did. I couldn’t understand how he won reelection. Economy suffering. Unemployment higher than when he took office. Still in two wars. Debt beyond comprehension. What exactly did Obama accomplish his first time?

Then a friend suggested I visit a Walmart. Now I understand how he was reelected.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2769 Jan 12, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Will you be testifying at Zimmerman's trial, since you were there and saw what happened? I think you should. Zimmerman needs you to tell the jury what you saw.
Like you, I am also outraged at this terrible miscarriage of justice. I mean, i shudder everytime I think of that lousy Trayvon Martin, who was armed to the teeth with a bag of Skittles, attacking poor George Zimmerman, who had nothing but a pistol to defend himself with.
Clearly you’ve not examined all of the facts associated with the case.
GhostofRaygun

Russellville, KY

#2770 Jan 12, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama winning twice is proof of nothing Obama did. I couldn’t understand how he won reelection. Economy suffering. Unemployment higher than when he took office. Still in two wars. Debt beyond comprehension. What exactly did Obama accomplish his first time?
Then a friend suggested I visit a Walmart. Now I understand how he was reelected.
The main reason Obama won is that Mitt was promising America to go back and do the exact same policies that caused the collapse of 2008. Lower taxes on the rich and less regulations on Wall St. and the banks. While it's true unemployment is high Repubs just seem to block out of their minds what Obama started from. An average of 750,000 jobs were being lost EACH month.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#2772 Jan 12, 2013
GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>The main reason Obama won is that Mitt was promising America to go back and do the exact same policies that caused the collapse of 2008. Lower taxes on the rich and less regulations on Wall St. and the banks. While it's true unemployment is high Repubs just seem to block out of their minds what Obama started from. An average of 750,000 jobs were being lost EACH month.
So what? It took him nearly four years to break even on the jobs lost from when he took office. And I don't know what policy he implemented where he could take credit for that. Business is business, and even if DumBama entered the white house and did absolutely nothing, business would have made better strides than him interfering.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#2774 Jan 12, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
There are many reasons business isn’t creating more jobs. Obama doesn’t own all the blame. Congress owns some of it, state regulations own some of it and local regulations own some of it as well.
The county where I live charges huge new construction environmental fees. Those fees are turned over to education, nothing to do with the environment. We were looking at building a new facility to expand. The environment fees would have been nearly half a million dollars. The expansion would have brought 60 new well-paying jobs. We’ve placed the plans on hold indefinitely.
Correct, DumBama can't take all the blame, but he and his minions in bureaucracies played a very large part. I've read article after article on how Commie Care is killing jobs, and it's not even 2014 yet when it really kicks in gear. I also heard about health insurance increasing up to 25% because of Commie Care. Most Americans get their insurance from their employers, so this is yet another problem for our jobs creators.

It's like I've always said, politicians don't create jobs--private industry creates jobs. However, what politicians can do is create an environment for job creation or to hamper job creation. We all understand how anti-business this Socialist is.

Then we have to consider all the indirect costs to working Americans because of DumBama such as cigarettes, ATM fees, credit card fees and rates, electricity, cell phones, and the list goes on. Nickel and dime items all add up. It's all money Americans can no longer circulate in the economy. Now Americans will be taking home less pay because SS went back up to where it was before.

In short, there is absolutely nothing good about this Socialist. Nearly everything he does hurts Americans or the economy.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#2775 Jan 12, 2013
no one no where wrote:
YES lets band guns. I'm sure the crazies and the criminals will follow the laws and we will no longer have gun crimes. It will work just like when we band poverty in America. While at it lets band wars and deaths.
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away
Your inability to learn facts and skills to apply them is spectacular!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#2776 Jan 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
So what? It took him nearly four years to break even on the jobs lost from when he took office. And I don't know what policy he implemented where he could take credit for that. Business is business, and even if DumBama entered the white house and did absolutely nothing, business would have made better strides than him interfering.
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. Your inability to learn facts and skills to apply them is spectacular!

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2777 Jan 12, 2013
GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>The main reason Obama won is that Mitt was promising America to go back and do the exact same policies that caused the collapse of 2008. Lower taxes on the rich and less regulations on Wall St. and the banks. While it's true unemployment is high Repubs just seem to block out of their minds what Obama started from. An average of 750,000 jobs were being lost EACH month.
The reality is we’re worse off now than when Obama took office. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...

The White House continues to tell us the economy is improving. That’s only partially true. There is recovery for some industries but not all. The housing market is improving but the foreclosure rate is still extremely high. Retail sales are sluggish and American are deeper in debt.

With the sky rocketing national debt the US will likely have its’ credit rating adjusted. That will have dire consequences.

We’re likely to face another crisis soon, next month. The debt ceiling will be reached again. I suspect because of the lack of cooperation on spending cuts Congress won’t be so eager to increase the ceiling again.

Things aren’t so rosy for our economy and you can expect 22 trillion in debt by the end of Obama’s second term if we can’t get this under control.

You clearly don’t understand what caused the collapse. It wasn’t the policies Mitt was proposing. There’s so much you’re missing if you believe that’s true. It started with Jimmy Carter, Clinton added fuel and the “wheels” came off under Bush. The Republicans aren’t so innocent on this either. They didn’t help with the GLB Act which effectively gutted Glass-Steagall, So many people and policies to blame for the collapse. But, nothing related to the policies promoted by Romney. Get off the media talking points and do some research.

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