Letters

There are 18 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 17, 2008, titled Letters. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

If the train could be built this year, ridership would be pathetic and subsidy-to-cost horrendous.

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Bullshot Crummond

Annandale, MN

#1 Aug 17, 2008
Pidgin is English, too. Why not make Hawaii's own language the world language?
Disgusted

Hilo, HI

#2 Aug 17, 2008
All we hear and read about is pro-rail and anti-rail. So little attention is given to the point of view that there are some of us who resent the fact that our elected officials have failed miserably in studying all aspects of the traffic problem: reducing vehicles on the roadway by removing those that have no insurance, commuter express buses that only make one stop at towns in leeward and central Oahu, revising UH class schedules, bicycle lanes, etc. How can anyone be so simple minded that they can't see throught the paid ads by construction unions for rail? It's more than just rail or no rail. It's analyzing the problem objectively (the operative word is objectively) and addressing the problem before we put ourselves in debt for the rest of our lives, and that of our children and grandchildren.
manini

Kapaau, HI

#4 Aug 17, 2008
Doug Carlson forgets one other major consideration and that is affordability.
Just to remind Doug, our Mayor's campaign mantra from a couple of years ago we something like this.
Do we need it, can we afford it, can we maintain it. I think Doug will agree the answer to the last 2 questions is a resounding NO.
Does Carlson's position as a paid consultant (hack) for the city entitle him to more letters to the editor than other readers. It would seem so.
Keith Haugen

AOL

#5 Aug 17, 2008
Doug Carlson, who is paid to speak in favor of the proposed new railroad, now sees the controversy as being "highly partisan" as if those who oppose it are all Republicans opposed to Mayor Hannemann?

Not so. Most of those I know who oppose the proposed railroad are a mix of all parties -- Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Greens, Libertarians, a pela aku.

And most of us who want to let the voters decide are not necessarily from any one party.

Doug is right about one thing, the proposed new railroad will run on electricity. And all of our Island's electricity is generated by burning imported low sulfur crude oil.

Does that mean the cost of operating the new railroad will be tied to foreign oil?

Look at what has happened to our gasoline prices, which also is totally dependent upon imported oil.

Will a new power plant be necessary to provide electricity 24 hours a day, 365 days a year to a new railroad?

Can the existing power plants provide that much more power?

There are more unanswered questions arising every day.

Let's vote.

Keith Haugen
Nu`uanu
Shameful america

Honolulu, HI

#6 Aug 17, 2008
Voting rights aren't automatic for military

There is a general misconception that active military stationed in Hawaii, their spouses or dependents of voting age are eligible to vote in our elections. This misconception is because our Office of Elections is doing a poor job of educating the public about the eligibility requirements of voting in this state, has no effective enforcement of the eligibility laws, plus it has virtually no safeguards in place to prevent ineligible voters from voting in this state.
The eligibility requirement that active military stationed in Hawaii do not meet is that they are not legal residents of the state. According to the Hawaii Revised Statutes, no member of the armed forces of the United States, the member's spouse or the member's dependent is a resident of the state solely by reason of being stationed in the state.

They of course could exercise their right to vote in their respective home states.

N. Kimura
Kapolei

EXACTOMUNDO! Well stated.

THIS is how america was 'allowed' to lay claim to their ILLEGAL STATEHOOD of Hawai'i...by perpetuating the lie that THEIR 'constipation' of america gave them the 'vested rights' to steal another nation!
Dman

San Diego, CA

#10 Aug 17, 2008
The rail line does not even go down fort weaver road so it will NOT help the ewa residents. Talk about a BAD route??? Wake up people it does not even serve the worst traffic area in ewa.
BAD PLANNING..
Newtowner

Hilo, HI

#12 Aug 17, 2008
Nancy Nagamine
Kailua

wrote the following irt Hot Lanes

"The proposed high-occupancy reversible elevated expressway with increased bus rapid transit would stop in Iwilei."

How right she is if Hot Lanes is the solution to traffic. Where ever the Hot Lanes end traffic will STOP. There is no carrying capacity to expand traffic in urban Honolulu. The future will see parking being sacrificed for additional traffic lanes. Eventually if you are fortunate enough to actually get into urban Honolul you will have to take a windshield tour because there will be no place to park your car. Mass transit is the only solution for the future.
indi

United States

#13 Aug 17, 2008
Mr Orr's letter to the editor is right on, good work!
Aiea Resident

Ewa Beach, HI

#15 Aug 17, 2008
Well, Nancy from Kailua, how about we make one of the three routes (four if you include Kalanianaole Highway) you have to come into Honolulu a toll road (which is basically what a HOT lane is) and see how you like it; I doubt you would be in favor as the other two routes would become more congested.
Kirkland

Keaau, HI

#16 Aug 17, 2008
Oahu's problem is congestion and no place to build roads. Cities in mainland US with a similar problem use new technology called Intelligent Transportation System or ITS to ease congestion.
Congestion is caused by vehicles that slow down to a crawl or 5-10 mph at a portion of the H1 freeway such as at the bottleneck at Middle Street.
ITS eases congestion by controlling traffic flow such that vehicles at a bottleneck such as at Middle Street runs at fast speed such as 45-50 mph.
ITS uses a computer to control traffic flow by means of electronic variable message boards and electronic variable speed limit boards strategically placed all along the three freeways, H1, Lunalilo and Moanalua.
The computer gets a feed on the situation on the freeways via sensors underneath the freeways. Video cameras at strategically placed locations on the freeway monitor traffic situation.
The ITS system if installed in other roadways of Honolulu can improve traffic flow in those roadways.
djs

Kailua, HI

#17 Aug 17, 2008
Newtowner wrote:
Nancy Nagamine
Kailua
wrote the following irt Hot Lanes
"The proposed high-occupancy reversible elevated expressway with increased bus rapid transit would stop in Iwilei."
How right she is if Hot Lanes is the solution to traffic. Where ever the Hot Lanes end traffic will STOP. There is no carrying capacity to expand traffic in urban Honolulu. The future will see parking being sacrificed for additional traffic lanes. Eventually if you are fortunate enough to actually get into urban Honolul you will have to take a windshield tour because there will be no place to park your car. Mass transit is the only solution for the future.
Since the main thoroughfares into honolulu are controlled by the State and not the county, it isn't Mufi's problem to fix. go talk to linda.

Since: Jul 08

Honolulu, HI

#18 Aug 17, 2008
Why get an alternative to traffic congestion with a super-expensive Rail Transit?
Why not address the problem of congestion and no room for new roads itself with a new technology called Intelligent Transportation System or ITS?
Other cities with problems similar if not identical to Oahu have opted to adopt and develop ITS.
Congestion occurs when traffic flow slows down to a crawl such as at a bottleneck on the H1. What ITS does is to speed up the traffic flow and so ease congestion.
ITS uses video cameras and sensors underneath the pavement to feed a computer data on the situation at any section of the freeways.
ITS controls traffic flow by generating variable messages and variable speed limits at electronic message boards at different locations of the freeways.
With ITS, Oahu would have no need to spend billions for Rail.
kapulena

Kailua, HI

#19 Aug 17, 2008
Way to go Mr.Satome Sato.
kapulena

Kailua, HI

#20 Aug 17, 2008
Djs,too many captains not enough ships.
kapulena

Kailua, HI

#21 Aug 17, 2008
Dman,you got that right on the kinipopo.And then

your grandkids have to foot the bill.Sure looks like king George B.
Herbert Morioka

Mililani, HI

#22 Aug 17, 2008
In response to Ronald K. Orr: I agree with you that the DOE not only has their priorities backwards but has absolutely no priorities at all. Just imagine, Assist. Superintendent Daniel Hamada going to Disney World on a vacation with taxpayer's money. Also, Breene Harimoto, BOE board member was also on the same trip. Sandy Goya, DOE spokesperson implied that the trip was justified because it was before Gov. Lingle's request to all the government agencies to tighten their belts because we are facing bad economic times. Whether we are in good times or bad times, to send 651 educators to vacation land is excessive. There is no defense. And to Donna Ikeda chairperson of the BOE, stop defending the trip that Breene Harimoto took and make him produce the now famous "reflected journal". 651 participants and not one journal has surfaced for the public to see. The second guessers are wondering if the educational confernces were held in Disney Park.
give me a break

Kaneohe, HI

#23 Aug 17, 2008
DOUG CARLSON,

FINALLY AN HONEST MEMBER OF "MUFI'S MINIONS".

EXCEPT, ALL THE "GREEN POWER" YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR LETTER IS AT LEAST A FEW DECADES (OR LONGER) AWAY, AND EVEN IF VIABLE, THOSE PEOPLE KNOWN AS "NIMBY'S"--NOT IN MY BACKYARD) WILL PROBABLY HAMPER THE "TRANSITION" (UTILIZATION) FOR AT LEAST, A FEW MORE DECADES....

WITH HAWAII NOW PAYING THE HIGHEST COST OF ELECTRICITY, WHAT WOULD YOU VENTURE TO ESTIMATE THE COST OF ELECTRICITY IN 40 OR 50 YEARS, WITH THE COST OF FOSSIL FUELS ALSO RISING....

YES, THE PEOPLE MUST CAREFULLY EVALUATE THIS RAIL PROJECT AS SOMETHING THAT (IF COMPLETED, "WITH THE SPURS") WOULD PROBABLY BE COMPLETED, MAYBE BY 2060 (HOPEFULLY).....ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED COSTS "MORE TAXES" WOULD YOU AGREE???????

Still from Kaneohe.
East of Eden

Kaneohe, HI

#24 Aug 17, 2008
Mr Delmonte,
I am also mad as hell and am not going to take it anymore. But why are so many of our fellow citizens so willing to open up their wallets to politicians who consistently display horrendous money management skill?
EoE

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