Oil from home

I learned at Purdue University 52 years ago that when the supply of a commodity stays the same and the demand goes up, the price will follow. Full Story
Walter

Chicago, IL

#1 May 13, 2008
Two words: Exxon Valdez.
mee

Chicago, IL

#2 May 13, 2008
yeah, im not in such a hurry to trust anything the oil companies - or any company for that matter - say they can do without an environmental impact. their past actions just do not belie that fact.
Jack

Dublin, OH

#3 May 13, 2008
Raise your hand if you think that oil in ANWR will never get tapped. It'll be 10 years before we see anything out of it. Lets go get it now rather than later, with a contingency that if the oil companies make a mess, they will pay big time.
Mav

Wheaton, IL

#4 May 13, 2008
We must think of the caribou!!!!

Since: Apr 08

Addison, IL

#5 May 13, 2008
There is some risk in anything. The Valdez was a single hull ship which is now not allowed. Doesn't mean it's impossible for something like that to happen again but the odds are much less. And the actual proposed drilling area is exceptionally small so count me as a supporter if it eases things and helps the overall economy. Oh and hey... wake up greenies. Thanks to all your ridiculous protesting, we haven't built a refinery in over 30 years or so. It's about time the oil companies actually SPENT some of their obscene profits.
Andy

United States

#6 May 13, 2008
No Liberal wrote:
Thanks to all your ridiculous protesting, we haven't built a refinery in over 30 years or so. It's about time the oil companies actually SPENT some of their obscene profits.
That's a false assertion. There are no new refineries because the oil companies are in no hurry to build them. They have no interest in spending money on new projects that would cut into their profit margin. If an oil company wanted to expand a refinery in an existing industrial zone it would have no trouble doing it at all.

But go ahead, keep thinking that environmentalists are manipulating the market.
Brian

United States

#7 May 13, 2008
Maybe when our government shows us how it plans to ween itself off of oil, then it can start ravaging more of our own land. 4 square miles turns into 100 square miles in a decade.
I agree that congress has it's head in the sand, but so does the American public if we don't do something about our addiction to oil.
I know people who are in the car to and from work everyday for an hour or more. I guarantee that if all people like them moved closer to work, the price of gas wouldn't be at $4/gal. I know people who drive 2 blocks to the grocery store. I know people who own SUV's and they rarely have more than 2 people in their cars. If we could all just cut back from behavior like that, than we may not have as big of crisis as we do now.

Since: Apr 08

Addison, IL

#8 May 13, 2008
People buy cars of a particular type because they want to. You cannot mandate what cars people should drive or have to drive, so that's out. And, um, how exactly are they supposed to get that trunkload of groceries home if they don't drive over? Especially in winter. 100 square miles in Alaska is still the proverbial drop in the bucket. And greenies have played a HUGE role in all of this... say what you will. Every time someone wants to drill in the Gulf the cries go up all over.

I doubt you will change the way we do things here, but technology might. Electric cars will happen. Think of the oil savings the Chevy Volt can potentially generate (no pun intended) even if it only works best in warmer climates due to battery life.
progress

Pleasanton, CA

#9 May 13, 2008
You are forgetting the fact that your "plan" will do nothing to reduce CO2 emissions, and reduce demand on oil. Not to mention the FACT that your plan is a decade in making for an affect, and is a drip in the the U.S. oil consumption market. Reducing demand is the way to go. We may have to start consolidating trips, avoiding idling for minutes to "warm up the car" and yes, even ditching the American SUV for a practical car.
progress

Pleasanton, CA

#10 May 13, 2008
No Liberal wrote:
People buy cars of a particular type because they want to. You cannot mandate what cars people should drive or have to drive, so that's out. And, um, how exactly are they supposed to get that trunkload of groceries home if they don't drive over? Especially in winter. 100 square miles in Alaska is still the proverbial drop in the bucket. And greenies have played a HUGE role in all of this... say what you will. Every time someone wants to drill in the Gulf the cries go up all over.
I doubt you will change the way we do things here, but technology might. Electric cars will happen. Think of the oil savings the Chevy Volt can potentially generate (no pun intended) even if it only works best in warmer climates due to battery life.
Umm, we seem to be fine WALKING and BIKING to the store to get groceries. Of course we CHOSE not to live in stripmall-ville so we can actually walk within half a mile to the store and not need a car for groceries, just like in the more progressive countries where they are not "bitching" about gas prices.
progress

Pleasanton, CA

#11 May 13, 2008
Brian wrote:
Maybe when our government shows us how it plans to ween itself off of oil, then it can start ravaging more of our own land. 4 square miles turns into 100 square miles in a decade.
I agree that congress has it's head in the sand, but so does the American public if we don't do something about our addiction to oil.
I know people who are in the car to and from work everyday for an hour or more. I guarantee that if all people like them moved closer to work, the price of gas wouldn't be at $4/gal. I know people who drive 2 blocks to the grocery store. I know people who own SUV's and they rarely have more than 2 people in their cars. If we could all just cut back from behavior like that, than we may not have as big of crisis as we do now.
Not to mention the buses that are idling 30 minutes to haul kids 2 blocks while their parents are waiting for them (while watching them load the bus). How lazy is the American public? As long as the American public sits back and watches this, and we burn a gallon of gas to get a gallon of milk; gas is too cheap. I wish the politicians had the galls to increase the gas tax to pay for public transit. In hindsight, if Americans were willing to pay $4 a gallon for tax, why did we not increase the gas tax to $1 per gallon when it was at 3$/gallon for gas to pay for public transit?
progress

Pleasanton, CA

#12 May 13, 2008
No Liberal wrote:
There is some risk in anything. The Valdez was a single hull ship which is now not allowed. Doesn't mean it's impossible for something like that to happen again but the odds are much less. And the actual proposed drilling area is exceptionally small so count me as a supporter if it eases things and helps the overall economy. Oh and hey... wake up greenies. Thanks to all your ridiculous protesting, we haven't built a refinery in over 30 years or so. It's about time the oil companies actually SPENT some of their obscene profits.
Tell that to the people of San Fran that are still cleaning up form an oil spill. Also how do you explain that oil refinery is at 80%. How will increased refineries help?

Since: Apr 08

Addison, IL

#13 May 14, 2008
I can't imagine running any manufacturing plant at 100% capacity but I admit I don't know the standards of the industry. We already have seen from Katrina what happens when a refinery is damaged so if for no other reason than backup protection, more MODERN refineries are in order IMO.

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