Your View: Letters to the editor (Feb. 17)

The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska's Prudhoe Bay, and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. Full Story
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Good one

Las Cruces, NM

#2 Feb 17, 2011
Coyotes come down into the city of Las Crucse because of the extrem cold tempetures and the lack of food. My neigbor had her small dog natched away by a coyote when she was standing just a few feet away. When coyote travel in a pack they are amazingly clever, and can be exstramly dangeras.
wassup

Silver City, NM

#3 Feb 17, 2011
Re: Bakken oil reserves. Before you get too excited about this "vast" reserve, check it out on sources such as snopes.com and you will see the real amount of oil (actually oil shale) estimated to be located in what is called the Bakken Formation. Seems the recoverable amount, and not easily recoverable at that, amounts to just one year's amount imported to this country!
Realist-1

Alamogordo, NM

#4 Feb 17, 2011
Hey, Charlie Revie. Your letter is the quote from a mysterious Internet posting that has been going around on Conservative-owned computers. Just where do the statistics you report come from? There is a previously reported oil field in North and South Dakota....but the rest of you info????
Realist-1

Alamogordo, NM

#5 Feb 17, 2011
Deer in some areas of our country are like vermin. They should be hunted all year and the meat given to food banks. They should not be a protected species with hunting only allowed at certain times.
Think about it

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Feb 17, 2011
Our energy dependence on foreign oil is a political decision.

We have enough oil, natural gas, and coal along with the alternatives nuclear, hydro, wind and solar to satisfy our energy needs.

Dependency is a political condition.
Michael L Hays

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Feb 17, 2011
Mr. Revie, almost nothing in your letter is either true or sensible.

The existence of the Bakken oil field has been known for a long time. Estimates of its oil contents vary greatly, but none that I know of goes as high as 2 trillion barrels. The conventional high-end estimates run to about one-third that amount, or 650 billion barrels. Even so, that oil is not primary oil in pools easily tapped or in rocks containing the oil under high-pressure for easy extraction. Conventional technology can access about 1% of the entire field, or about 8 months’ worth of oil at current rates of national consumption. Most of it is dispersed in oil shales which require advanced technologies and enormous engineering work to extract. Because the costs have been prohibative, oil companies have not be developing this field.

Environmentalists, your bug-a-boo, have nothing to do with it. But you jab at them makes it clear that you do not understand not only the geology, the technology, or the economics of petroleum production, but also the effects of such oil extraction from the Bakken field. Extraction would require enormous amounts of water, something in short supply in the Montana-North Dakota board area, where this field is located (as well, by the way, elsewhere in the Rocky Mountains, a range which holds huge amounts of oil in oil shales). The amount of water needed for oil extraction would devastate agriculture and ranching in the area;, and the wastewater run-off would pollute all watercourses, with irreparable downstream damage to agriculture and ranching, domestic and commercial water supplies, sportfishing, riverboating, and tourism. If environmentalists point out the consequences which you either do not know or choose to ignore, they are doing a public service.
Wow

Las Cruces, NM

#8 Feb 17, 2011
Realist-1 wrote:
Hey, Charlie Revie. Your letter is the quote from a mysterious Internet posting that has been going around on Conservative-owned computers. Just where do the statistics you report come from? There is a previously reported oil field in North and South Dakota....but the rest of you info????
Wow - an internet posting which targets only "conservative-owned" computers. I wonder how these postings can tell the difference between computers owned by conservatives and those owned by non-conservatives.
Hemingway

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Feb 17, 2011
The Bakken oil fields are a joke, and Mr. Revie fell for it -hook line and sinker. Read SNOPES:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bakke...
captain rose

United States

#10 Feb 17, 2011
Realist-1 wrote:
Deer in some areas of our country are like vermin. They should be hunted all year and the meat given to food banks. They should not be a protected species with hunting only allowed at certain times.
Does ought to be harvested in order to "thin" the herd... taking the males does not make inroads into the population as much as getting rid of the producers.
District 2 Voter

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Feb 17, 2011
"Our Domestic Oil Reserves" was a tad off (by many billions of barrels)- check out the truth:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bakke...
News2Me

Silver City, NM

#12 Feb 17, 2011
WRONG!!
You forget all the oil recently discovered in Israel! Moron!

http://www.charismamag.com/index.php/news/291...
Karen

Rio Rancho, NM

#13 Feb 17, 2011
Mr. Brewer has set the record straight as to why it's IMPERATIVE that coyotes should not be a protected species in NM and that is to allow indiscriminate, year round trapping on public lands used by recreationers, their families and pets to protect deer populations for hunters. It's also why we cannot have provisions to curtail extreme and prolonged suffering to coyotes left in traps longer than the 24 hr trap check time in place for protected species.
News2Me

Silver City, NM

#14 Feb 17, 2011
Good one wrote:
Coyotes come down into the city of Las Crucse because of the extrem cold tempetures and the lack of food. My neigbor had her small dog natched away by a coyote when she was standing just a few feet away. When coyote travel in a pack they are amazingly clever, and can be exstramly dangeras.
Go back to grade school and learn how to spell
Real American

Las Cruces, NM

#15 Feb 17, 2011
I always wonder just who would believe chain emails like the " mother load of oil" then Charlie Revie came along and the questioned was awnsered.

Should anyone wish to know the truth the US Geological Survey has all the info one might wish for.

(Wouldn't it be a good idea to burn other peoples oil for as long as possible?)

“This will not end Well”

Since: Oct 10

Ebony Catacomb

#16 Feb 17, 2011
District 2 Voter wrote:
"Our Domestic Oil Reserves" was a tad off (by many billions of barrels)- check out the truth:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bakke...
Who owns operates and bankrolls the website called Snopes.Com ? Before rendering judgment on the veracity of any site, and I mean any site, liberal or conservative or ostensibly neutral, you need to follow the money.

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Feb 17, 2011
When the FACTS are too damn uncomfortable, divert attention by attacking the source!

From the NYT: DEBUNKERS OF FICTIONS SIFT THE NET Less than a year later, Snopes became the family’s full-time job. Advertisements sold by a third-party network cover the $3,000-a-month bandwidth bills, with enough left over for the Mikkelsons to make a living —“despite rumors that we’re paid by, depending on your choice, the Democratic National Committee or the Republican National Committee,” Mr. Mikkelson said. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/technology/...

“Aren’t they [Snopes] originally funded with Soros money?” Nope -- it started in 1996 as a list of urban myths and legends by amateur folklorists David and Barbara Mikkelson and evolved into fact-checking….Further, the idea that the Mikkelsons are driven by liberal ideology has been debunked by FactCheck.org , which noted that Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian citizen, while David Mikkelson is a political independent who was previously a registered Republican and has no public record of having made political donations. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201006010050

From: USC Annenburg Online Journalism Review (July 2003) www.ojr.org/ojr/glaser/1059692646.php FOR SNOPES.COM , DEBUNKING THE BAMBI HOAX WAS ALL IN A DAY'S WORK - Site is a labor of love for husband-and-wife team who stayed skeptical about media reports that hunters could pay up to $10,000 for chance to shoot paintballs at naked women.

From: www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/snopes.htm SNOPES.COM IS A SECRET TOOL OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO PROMOTE BARACK OBAMA - FICTION! Summary of the eRumor: An eRumor about Snopes.com accusing them being owned by a flaming liberal and this man is in the tank for Obama. THE TRUTH: In October, 2008, stories began circulating via forwarded emails that the popular urban legends site Snopes.com was owned by liberals and was "in the tank" for presidential candidate Barack Obama.

As with many forwarded emails, the criticism did not include any example of what the writer of the email claimed was the difference between what Snopes.com reported and what Barack Obama had actually said.

Snopes.com is an excellent site that has become an authoritative source for information about urban legends and forwarded emails. We regard David and Barbara Mikkelson, the founders and operators of Snopes.com , as colleagues and professional researchers who have earned a good reputation for what they do. We can give a unique perspective on this story because we do the same kind of work as Snopes.com and have sometimes been the target of similar criticism….. One of the versions of the eRumor mentions TruthOrFiction.com and recommends our site. We appreciate that, but we want to say for the record that we've had nothing to do with this eRumor about Snopes.com and we condemn it….."

From About.com : Snopes Under Fire -IS THE FACT-CHECKING SITE SNOPES.COM BIASED AND UNRELIABLE? Status: FALSE http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/s... Summary: Forwarded email alleges that the urban legend debunking site Snopes.com is 'owned by a flaming liberal' who is 'in the tank for Obama' and cannot be trusted to provide reliable information. Description: Email rumor Circulating since: Oct. 2008
Eddie

Las Cruces, NM

#18 Feb 17, 2011
Once again Mr. Revie has shown his incredible inability to discern fact from fiction. As for WOW's comment about conservative-owned computers; Everyone knows there are IT devices that detect the operators IQ.

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Feb 17, 2011
Real American wrote:
I always wonder just who would believe chain emails like the " mother load of oil" then Charlie Revie came along and the questioned was awnsered.
Should anyone wish to know the truth the US Geological Survey has all the info one might wish for.
(Wouldn't it be a good idea to burn other peoples oil for as long as possible?)
"I always wonder just who would believe chain emails like..."

Reich-wing brainwashed fools, misinformed FuxNews watchers, Beck cultists, mental midgets and malicious LIARS.
Border Native-American

Florissant, CO

#20 Feb 17, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
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"I always wonder just who would believe chain emails like..."
Reich-wing brainwashed fools, misinformed FuxNews watchers, Beck cultists, mental midgets and malicious LIARS.
Fox News is the best!

“This will not end Well”

Since: Oct 10

Ebony Catacomb

#21 Feb 18, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
When the FACTS are too damn uncomfortable, divert attention by attacking the source!
From the NYT: DEBUNKERS OF FICTIONS SIFT THE NET Less than a year later, Snopes became the family’s full-time job. Advertisements sold by a third-party network cover the $3,000-a-month bandwidth bills, with enough left over for the Mikkelsons to make a living —“despite rumors that we’re paid by, depending on your choice, the Democratic National Committee or the Republican National Committee,” Mr. Mikkelson said. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/technology/...
“Aren’t they [Snopes] originally funded with Soros money?” Nope -- it started in 1996 as a list of urban myths and legends by amateur folklorists David and Barbara Mikkelson and evolved into fact-checking….Further, the idea that the Mikkelsons are driven by liberal ideology has been debunked by FactCheck.org , which noted that Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian citizen, while David Mikkelson is a political independent who was previously a registered Republican and has no public record of having made political donations. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201006010050
From: USC Annenburg Online Journalism Review (July 2003) www.ojr.org/ojr/glaser/1059692646.php FOR SNOPES.COM , DEBUNKING THE BAMBI HOAX WAS ALL IN A DAY'S WORK - Site is a labor of love for husband-and-wife team who stayed skeptical about media reports that hunters could pay up to $10,000 for chance to shoot paintballs at naked women.
From: www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/snopes.htm SNOPES.COM IS A SECRET TOOL OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO PROMOTE BARACK OBAMA - FICTION! Summary of the eRumor: An eRumor about Snopes.com accusing them being owned by a flaming liberal and this man is in the tank for Obama. THE TRUTH: In October, 2008, stories began circulating via forwarded emails that the popular urban legends site Snopes.com was owned by liberals and was "in the tank" for presidential candidate Barack Obama.
As with many forwarded emails, the criticism did not include any example of what the writer of the email claimed was the difference between what Snopes.com reported and what Barack Obama had actually said.
Snopes.com is an excellent site that has become an authoritative source for information about urban legends and forwarded emails. We regard David and Barbara Mikkelson, the founders and operators of Snopes.com , as colleagues and professional researchers who have earned a good reputation for what they do. We can give a unique perspective on this story because we do the same kind of work as Snopes.com and have sometimes been the target of similar criticism….. One of the versions of the eRumor mentions TruthOrFiction.com and recommends our site. We appreciate that, but we want to say for the record that we've had nothing to do with this eRumor about Snopes.com and we condemn it….."
From About.com : Snopes Under Fire -IS THE FACT-CHECKING SITE SNOPES.COM BIASED AND UNRELIABLE? Status: FALSE http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/s... Summary: Forwarded email alleges that the urban legend debunking site Snopes.com is 'owned by a flaming liberal' who is 'in the tank for Obama' and cannot be trusted to provide reliable information. Description: Email rumor Circulating since: Oct. 2008
Thanks. Your citations to the Annenburg foundation and Factcheck.Org made my point. If they are rushing to Snopes' defense, forget veracity.

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