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alternate power systems - energy shield insulation

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codergirl

Dillon, SC

#1 Jul 13, 2010
Has anyone used 'energy shield' insulation? Alternate Power Systems out of Spring Arbor, Mi has been traveling, giving sales dinners on the product. It sounds good and the company does offer a guarantee that you will save on energy costs. But I can find very little on the web about the company or the product. If you have had this product installed, or know anyone, please let me know what kind of results and are they happy with the product.
thanks!!
Kathy

Queen Creek, AZ

#2 Jul 30, 2010
codergirl wrote:
Has anyone used 'energy shield' insulation? Alternate Power Systems out of Spring Arbor, Mi has been traveling, giving sales dinners on the product. It sounds good and the company does offer a guarantee that you will save on energy costs. But I can find very little on the web about the company or the product. If you have had this product installed, or know anyone, please let me know what kind of results and are they happy with the product.
thanks!!
I was just wondering the same thing. My electricty bill was 345.00 this month and I need to do something. But like "codergirl" I can't find any info on this company or reviews on their product :(
Codergirl

United States

#3 Aug 4, 2010
Kathy wrote:
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I was just wondering the same thing. My electricty bill was 345.00 this month and I need to do something. But like "codergirl" I can't find any info on this company or reviews on their product :(
My dad did end up having the company install the insulation in his house. They agreed to refund the cost of an area that they could not get to in the attic. They never refunded it and when my dad calls they don't answer and they won't return his calls. I'd urge you to avoid using the company in Spring Arbor, Michigan. Don Galloway seems to be the person who runs the place. I have written to him and get no response. Waiting to see if the electric bill shows any change.
Paul R

State College, PA

#4 Oct 1, 2010
Kathy wrote:
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I was just wondering the same thing. My electricty bill was 345.00 this month and I need to do something. But like "codergirl" I can't find any info on this company or reviews on their product :(
I own a total electric home and my average elec bill is $120.00 month. All laundry is done in cold water and I have installed a
timer on my water heater so it only heats water 12 hours a day. I never lack hot water even though it only heats from 8am to 8pm. In the Pennsylvania winters I supplement my elec heat with a small wood burner in the basement gameroom and it keeps the house toasty warm. I think if you have a good plan you can save major bucks working within a conservative budget.(I bought the timer at a flea mkt for $10.00 and the woodburner as a floor model for $350.00)
woodman

Milton, PA

#5 Oct 5, 2010
i checked the better business bureau they give them A- rating they had 4 complants in 36 months and all were resolved.
travis

York, PA

#7 Nov 13, 2010
lmao@ steve potman, obviously an employee of virginia foam. i'd get foam insulation before this shit tho

my grandmother had this stuff "installed" in her attic, you can probably buy something at lowes for a fraction of the price, i'm still trying to figure out how the material they used costs, but its just 2 pieces of aluminum foil with a bunch of tiny holes in it that have less than an 1/8th inch of insulation inbetween them, all they do is roll this out in your attic, they don't nail it, staple it or anything, the only tool they need for the job is a knife or scissor to cut this, might take an hour to install in an average sized home. my grandma lives in a relatively small 3 bedroom 1 bathroom rancher, and they charged her 2300 dollars to "install" it, i think thats pretty steep but like i said i haven't priced out a similar material yet. this is what makes it obvious that probably 2000 dollars of her bill was profit. they initially told her the bill would be 3300 and shed get a 1000 dollar tax credit, well she checked into it (gotta giver her credit) and found that she couldn't get the tax credit, so they told her they'd take the 1000 dollars off the price themselves, and i know how a business works, they're not gonna take a loss or break even just to make someone happy who has never spent a dime with them before. i can't say anything bad, but to me this stuff looks like something you could probably buy at lowes for under 400 dollars, and use an old pair of scissors to roll out in your attic yourself, hell if i was doing it i'd spend another 10 dollars and staple it all down haha.
jed

Rockford, IL

#8 Nov 30, 2010
Travis, Well did it work? just saw the dinner thing and I'm a huge skeptic of stuff like that especially when at 48 years old I'm the youngest one there... The reflective energy of aluminum is awesome...but will it lower my bills by 40%??? the gentlemen keyed in on people with a fixed income.. and the savings it would add..My electric and gas are $145.00 a month on the budget plan
Vapor Barrier

Peoria, IL

#9 Jun 4, 2011
OK folks.....do this experiment. Take a piece of tin foil and place it over a cup of coffee. Let it sit a few minutes and remove. You will see moisture underneath right? Now, take a toothpick and make a bunch of holes in the tin foil. PLace back over the cup of coffee and let it sit a few minutes. Remove and you still have the moisture. A vapor barrier such as this will only cause mold and before you know it, your sick.

Red Flag on their website. No email contact, no 800#, makes it difficult for those who do have issues down the road to send a simple communication looking for assistance. BBB acredited? So what, that does not take much to do really. Don't be fooled by these people.
phnomnl

Lady Lake, FL

#10 Jun 6, 2011
Vapor Barrier wrote:
OK folks.....do this experiment. Take a piece of tin foil and place it over a cup of coffee. Let it sit a few minutes and remove. You will see moisture underneath right? Now, take a toothpick and make a bunch of holes in the tin foil. PLace back over the cup of coffee and let it sit a few minutes. Remove and you still have the moisture. A vapor barrier such as this will only cause mold and before you know it, your sick.
Red Flag on their website. No email contact, no 800#, makes it difficult for those who do have issues down the road to send a simple communication looking for assistance. BBB acredited? So what, that does not take much to do really. Don't be fooled by these people.
the vapour shield is not the same as the energy shield. The one that serves as a radiant barrier has no holes.
Paul

Milton, FL

#11 Aug 8, 2011
Okay, you want someone who has this product. I had this installed and noticed the difference later that afternoon. I spend time in the basement where its cool all the time (about 69 degrees) and when I go upstairs, the heat is coming down out of the cealing. Well, after they finished and were gone, I went upstairs and never felt any heat coming down and has been that way ever since and the temp has been up in the 90's beating down on the roof. I have the product with the pourous foil and R-11 insulation in between. Yes my electric bill has gone down for the month of June and July. Can't wait till winter, to see what happens to my bill. I'm sold! Oh by the way, I went to another dinner tonight, but this product was only foil with mylar inbetween, not sold on this product. Buyer beware, choose the right product that you feel will work for you.
tabdlb

Wooster, OH

#12 Aug 9, 2011
What product did you have installed. Where were they from? Can you share contact information?
Paul wrote:
Okay, you want someone who has this product. I had this installed and noticed the difference later that afternoon. I spend time in the basement where its cool all the time (about 69 degrees) and when I go upstairs, the heat is coming down out of the cealing. Well, after they finished and were gone, I went upstairs and never felt any heat coming down and has been that way ever since and the temp has been up in the 90's beating down on the roof. I have the product with the pourous foil and R-11 insulation in between. Yes my electric bill has gone down for the month of June and July. Can't wait till winter, to see what happens to my bill. I'm sold! Oh by the way, I went to another dinner tonight, but this product was only foil with mylar inbetween, not sold on this product. Buyer beware, choose the right product that you feel will work for you.
Jerry

Reynoldsburg, OH

#13 Aug 10, 2011
Had this installed in Feb 2010 by Alternative Power Systems - cost $1.95 SF. I live in an all electric ranch style home - that was already tight and well insulated - no reduction in my utility (electric) bill over the past 1 1/2 years. Product may be good for a poorly insulation home but did not help me.
greyp

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Nov 16, 2011
If you are looking to insulate you home, try using the spray foam insulation done by http://www.mpifoam.com in Raleigh.
Janice

Ann Arbor, MI

#16 Dec 8, 2011
Jerry in Baltimore, OH...

Were you promised a refund if your energy cost did not come down;
If "Yes" were you given a refund without any problems?
Paul - IL

Riverton, IL

#17 Jan 18, 2012
Just read a review from someone that did the same thing himself for around $150. I usually avoid companies that can't be checked out first, expecially ones that have a timeshare-style invitation. How can a company from upper MI travel across the country and make money, unless they are putting excessive markup on the product?
Tami B Indiana

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Jul 31, 2012
we are having this installed by Sho-Pro of Indiana, in the next couple of weeks:
http://www.sho-proinc.com/Insulation/
BBB rating = A+
They had a boot at our county 4-H fair.
Jeff Drake

Lafayette, IN

#19 Dec 4, 2012
Tami B Indiana wrote:
we are having this installed by Sho-Pro of Indiana, in the next couple of weeks:
http://www.sho-proinc.com/Insulation/
BBB rating = A+
They had a boot at our county 4-H fair.
Tami, how did it do? We’re trying to decide whether or not to cancel our order with Sho-Pro. It sounds awesome, but it *is* a large initial investment.
don from fl

Sebring, FL

#20 Dec 14, 2012
wow I can not believe how dumb people are.NASA invented the material to protect the astronauts from plus 250 and minus 450 degree temperatures morons.the product works 100 percent. and the mold guy is a total idiot.this product has been installed in thousands of homes across America with not one mold problem.People need to know what the hell there talking about before they flap there lips...They buy you and your spouse dinner and tell you how to save money on your energy costs.this product has saved us 50 percent on our electric bill and this company is as good as gold.
john from fl

Sebring, FL

#22 Dec 15, 2012
don from fl wrote:
<quoted text> you will continue to see a lower bill because it works...so sad that people put down a company and have no idea what there talking about. this is an Americana company that uses American products that help home owners save money period... don't listen to people that have no idea what they are talking about...
If you get invited to a dinner you should definetly go you will learn a lot from people who know what there talking about...
Brandon

New Palestine, IN

#23 Dec 20, 2012
Tami,
Did Sho-Pro install your e-Shield? Have you noticed any difference? We met with a rep tonight and are supposed to have it installed the day after Christmas. Would like some honest feedback.$7300 is a lot to shell out!
Tami B Indiana wrote:
we are having this installed by Sho-Pro of Indiana, in the next couple of weeks:
http://www.sho-proinc.com/Insulation/
BBB rating = A+
They had a boot at our county 4-H fair.

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