Coach Arested For Sexual Abusing Teen...
sandy

Louisa, VA

#21 Mar 19, 2013
buttercup wrote:
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Agreed. It's like some people just don't understand that there is a reason that it's against the law to engage in sexual contact with a minor. An adult, male, teacher and coach has significantly more power, knowledge and control over the situation than a teenage girl.
They're saying the teen girls should share the blame? What blame? They aren't the ones who broke the law. A teenager dessing sexy or being "trashy" might not be tasteful, but it's not a crime, and it's not a green light for adults to take advantage of them. If their parents were bad parents, then that would just make taking advantage of the teens that much worse. I have not seen any evidence to indicate that any of those things were even true of any of the eleven girls who have come forward so far, and you know? If these girls were capable of consenting to this sort of contact with a grown man, and capable of handling the reprecussions, they wouldn't be speaking out.
I'm starting to think that some of these posters here and on the pikeview thread might be associated with the defendant, or capable of the same type of behavior themselves. I don't understand the blind defense of the coach and attacks on the girls otherwise.
poor girls but they go bragging about it.
srj

Princeton, WV

#22 Mar 19, 2013
He will look cute in that little orange jumpsuit....8-P ;-}
srj

Princeton, WV

#23 Mar 19, 2013
buttercup wrote:
<quoted text> I'm starting to think that some of these posters here and on the pikeview thread might be associated with the defendant, or capable of the same type of behavior themselves. I don't understand the blind defense of the coach and attacks on the girls otherwise.
Exactly...maybe there are more than Kirk as suggest5ed in the other thread too, the blaming of these MANY young girls and their4 parents is just sick.
quickie

Princeton, WV

#24 Mar 19, 2013
srj wrote:
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Exactly...maybe there are more than Kirk as suggest5ed in the other thread too, the blaming of these MANY young girls and their4 parents is just sick.
A former PikeView High School employee hung his head and frequently tried to hide his face Monday has he was arraigned on multiple sexually related charges involving students.

http://bdtonline.com/local/x620878230/Facing-...

18 count and MORE likely by June according to SGT Clemmons in this article
fairness

Athens, WV

#25 Mar 19, 2013
im not saying the coach isnt to blame he def needs punished but life in prison... Thats alitte extreme. The 17yr old girls are not kids they are young adults and are respossible for there actions. Theses girls in a matter of months will be out in the real world and should hold some responsiblity. Yes he is a teach and i agree this is wrong but if your 17 yr old daughter goes to the mall dressed like some of these girls dress grown ass over the age of 18yr old men are goin to be hitting on them as well.. At some point the parents should accept some of the blame for there kids actions.....
Just Saying

Richmond, VA

#26 Mar 19, 2013
Keep in mind that what has this fellow in hot water is his position as a teacher/coach. If he is the man on the street all he would get charged with would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The age of consent in WV is 16
buttercup

Lewisburg, WV

#27 Mar 19, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
Keep in mind that what has this fellow in hot water is his position as a teacher/coach. If he is the man on the street all he would get charged with would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The age of consent in WV is 16
Not exactly. WV has a "Romeo and Juliet" law where a person who is at least 16 is considered capable of consenting to sexual activity with someone who is up to four years older. More than four years older, and it is still a crime.
Knows Better

Bluefield, WV

#28 Mar 19, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
Keep in mind that what has this fellow in hot water is his position as a teacher/coach. If he is the man on the street all he would get charged with would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The age of consent in WV is 16
Really? Sexual abuse and all the other charges wouldn't be classified as felonies for the man on the street? Also, "being in hot water" seems to make light of this man's predicament. Perhaps others have noticed that some men seem to downplay the seriousness of crimes of a sexual nature committed against the female species. Perhaps your opinion of the seriousness of this coach's apparent assumption that the young female population at PikeView was there for his sexual pleasure might change if you watched the video of him at the magistrate's office. http://bdtonline.com/local/x620878230/Facing-...
buttercup

Lewisburg, WV

#29 Mar 19, 2013
fairness wrote:
im not saying the coach isnt to blame he def needs punished but life in prison... Thats alitte extreme. The 17yr old girls are not kids they are young adults and are respossible for there actions. Theses girls in a matter of months will be out in the real world and should hold some responsiblity. Yes he is a teach and i agree this is wrong but if your 17 yr old daughter goes to the mall dressed like some of these girls dress grown ass over the age of 18yr old men are goin to be hitting on them as well.. At some point the parents should accept some of the blame for there kids actions.....
Who cares how they are dressed? Why do people always want to bring up what a girl or woman was wearing in situations like this? Would ANYONE be questioning what BOYS wore or how they acted if it were male victims? No. It wouldn't even be mentioned.

There hasn't even been any proof of what these girls wore or how they acted, and people want to jump to the conclusion of "Well, some teen girls dress too sexy, so these probably did, that means it's their fault too!"

I hate to break it to people, but a girl or woman can be unattractive, wear overalls and turtlenecks and STILL become the victim of a sex crime. In fact, quite a few offenders specifically target "innocent" looking people to victimize, or maybe it's blonde hair, long hair, brown eyes or high heeled shoes, maybe just the fact that a girl is underage, any number of things might be seen as inviting by different offenders. It's a scary realization for girls, women, and parents but it's true. Anyone could be the target of a sex crime. Absolutely anyone.
Just a thought

Princeton, WV

#30 Mar 19, 2013
Agent 99 wrote:
You cannot blame the victim. He was a trusted Coach that was in charge of students and he violated these students.If they were sending him pictures of themselves it was his responsibility to report this behavior. Poor judgement on his part. There is no excuse for taking advantage of a child no matter what kind of parents they have or what they are wearing. Its as if you are saying ,,if I leave my door unlocked then if I am robbed its my fault. Guess again, the robber is still going to jail. Its against the law to rob someone even if the door is unlocked and its against the law to sexually assault someone no matter what they are wearing or what the behavior of a parent.
If they were to send him the photos first, why would he turn them in? Then the question of "how did they get your number" comes into play & either way he still looks like he's done something wrong. You're talking about 17 year old girls, not 7 year olds. They may technically be considered children in the eyes of the law, but they don't think that they are. They should have gone to authorities IF he approached them, but they were probably flattered to be getting attention from someone older. I have known this man for 10 years, not once was there any indication of him being a "pervert" as you all so kindly labeled him.

Parents need to monitor their children (especially teenagers) more. They need to check their phones, their Facebook, etc. They need to see not only what is being sent to their children, but what their children are sending! They need to monitor what their children wear out of the house, what their children buy, where their children go, etc. Just like the rape case in Ohio involving the teenagers, WHERE WERE THE PARENTS IN THIS & HOW COULD THEY BE SO OBLIVIOUS? If you don't have open communication with your children, they're not going to tell you things like this.

If Mr. Kirk were a female, everyone would be trying to prove his innocence not his guilt.

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#31 Mar 19, 2013
Pointing fingers is not going to take away from the State of WV having enough evidence to make an arrest nor will it take away what has happened to the victims.
buttercup

Lewisburg, WV

#32 Mar 19, 2013
Just a thought wrote:
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If they were to send him the photos first, why would he turn them in? Then the question of "how did they get your number" comes into play & either way he still looks like he's done something wrong. You're talking about 17 year old girls, not 7 year olds. They may technically be considered children in the eyes of the law, but they don't think that they are. They should have gone to authorities IF he approached them, but they were probably flattered to be getting attention from someone older. I have known this man for 10 years, not once was there any indication of him being a "pervert" as you all so kindly labeled him.
Parents need to monitor their children (especially teenagers) more. They need to check their phones, their Facebook, etc. They need to see not only what is being sent to their children, but what their children are sending! They need to monitor what their children wear out of the house, what their children buy, where their children go, etc. Just like the rape case in Ohio involving the teenagers, WHERE WERE THE PARENTS IN THIS & HOW COULD THEY BE SO OBLIVIOUS? If you don't have open communication with your children, they're not going to tell you things like this.
If Mr. Kirk were a female, everyone would be trying to prove his innocence not his guilt.
Look, I know how hard it can be to come to grips with finding out something like this about someone you know, but isn't it a little difficult to defend him considering that there have been not one, not two, but ELEVEN different teens who have come forward with accounts dating back to 2010? Eleven is not an accident. Eleven is a sign that someone has a "thing" for underaged girls.

There are a lot of things that parents can be held respinsible for, but what's more likely, all 22 of the accusers parents were terrible parents or this ONE man has a problem? The Ohio rape case was a completely different situation, and has nothing to do with this. In that case multiple teens were totally unsupervised, bought alcohol, and apparently made no attempt at all to keep track of their kid's activities. Those parents were apparently not paying enough attention, but I would stop short of saying the rape was their fault. Rape is always the rapist's fault.

At any rate, that case is nothing like the case we're discussing where a coach and teacher is claimed to have been sexually persuing students under his care and authority. These girls weren't drunk and unsupervised at a party, they were attending school. Oh, and if this coach were a woman victimizing young boys, I most certainly would not be trying to prove her innocent. I have sons.
PAYBACK

Athens, WV

#33 Mar 19, 2013
Make sure the inmates at the prison is informed of his crimes. He will spend his evenings on his knees for the next few years...lol...
buttercup

Lewisburg, WV

#34 Mar 19, 2013
Just a thought wrote:
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If they were to send him the photos first, why would he turn them in? Then the question of "how did they get your number" comes into play & either way he still looks like he's done something wrong. You're talking about 17 year old girls, not 7 year olds. They may technically be considered children in the eyes of the law, but they don't think that they are. They should have gone to authorities IF he approached them, but they were probably flattered to be getting attention from someone older. I have known this man for 10 years, not once was there any indication of him being a "pervert" as you all so kindly labeled him.
Parents need to monitor their children (especially teenagers) more. They need to check their phones, their Facebook, etc. They need to see not only what is being sent to their children, but what their children are sending! They need to monitor what their children wear out of the house, what their children buy, where their children go, etc. Just like the rape case in Ohio involving the teenagers, WHERE WERE THE PARENTS IN THIS & HOW COULD THEY BE SO OBLIVIOUS? If you don't have open communication with your children, they're not going to tell you things like this.
If Mr. Kirk were a female, everyone would be trying to prove his innocence not his guilt.
I just realized that in addition to my numerous typos, I failed to address a couple of your statements as well. Do you really believe that several different girls all coincidently got his number and sent him unsolicited photos over a periid of two to three years? That seems unlikely to me.

You also mentioned that you'd known and trusted this man for 10 years with no indication that he was into these sorts of things. If you knew him that well, and you didn't know, how on earth could parents even suspect it? If it's true, then the fact that the people close to him had no idea would only further prove how sneaky and manipulative he was capable of being, and how he might have easily influenced teens into doing what he wanted.

Should parents be monitoring their kids? Absolutely. Is a situation like this the parent's fault? No, and whatever parents did or didn't do, it wouldn't excuse his behavior. He's the only one responsible for his own behavior.
point blank

Princeton, WV

#35 Mar 19, 2013
It doesn't matter if its a man, woman, coach, teacher or any other person. It doesn't matter how these kids are raised, or if they dress and act slutty....the law is the law and if and if adults are going to persue in having sex and any other sexual communication such as sending pictures and texts they have to suffer the punishment..POINT BLANK!
Ponderer

Lerona, WV

#36 Mar 19, 2013
Parents have the responsibility of teaching their children about responsible behavior. I know that mine did. When I was 17 had someone asked me to perform for a sex vidio I would have known it was wrong. Either I would have walked away and reported it or I would have done it because I wanted to. It is not my intention to remove any of the blame from the Coach, it was really stupid of him to think he could do somethin like this and get away with it. He needs to be punished very harshly.
Parent

Princeton, WV

#37 Mar 19, 2013
He looks like a creepy weirdo....that's a red flag within its self. And I guarantee his behavior was obvious and noone was paying attention. His picture makes me uncomfortable so I could only imagine how I would have felt if I met him in person. If he looks like a creep then chances are he acts like one too...and I bet his "wonderful" wife that is standing by his side knew the whole time that he is a pervert. I bet she is claiming "Oh, I didn't know!!" Yeah right...How could you not know someone is a creep that you see everyday and live with? I bet her gut told her he was a sexual predator and she just ignored it. And I bet someone he worked with had the same gut feeling at some point and they ignored it as well.
fairness

United States

#38 Mar 19, 2013
Just a thought wrote:
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If they were to send him the photos first, why would he turn them in? Then the question of "how did they get your number" comes into play & either way he still looks like he's done something wrong. You're talking about 17 year old girls, not 7 year olds. They may technically be considered children in the eyes of the law, but they don't think that they are. They should have gone to authorities IF he approached them, but they were probably flattered to be getting attention from someone older. I have known this man for 10 years, not once was there any indication of him being a "pervert" as you all so kindly labeled him.
Parents need to monitor their children (especially teenagers) more. They need to check their phones, their Facebook, etc. They need to see not only what is being sent to their children, but what their children are sending! They need to monitor what their children wear out of the house, what their children buy, where their children go, etc. Just like the rape case in Ohio involving the teenagers, WHERE WERE THE PARENTS IN THIS & HOW COULD THEY BE SO OBLIVIOUS? If you don't have open communication with your children, they're not going to tell you things like this.
If Mr. Kirk were a female, everyone would be trying to prove his innocence not his guilt.
Exactly i agree 100%... parents r just as much to blame for not monitoring there kids if u can call a 17 yr a kid.. thats probably why the parents didnt monitor them because there old enough to make adult decisions..
Hahaha

Fairfield, VA

#39 Mar 19, 2013
little high school girls were askin for it what else are they built that hot for ???
Resident

Bluefield, WV

#40 Mar 19, 2013
I can tell you that when I was in school most of older girls ALWAYS flirted with male teachers. There is one substitute teacher I can think of right now that I would bet some even slept with but no one knows about it. I'm not defending the teacher by any means BUT I can bet that "most of these girls" weren't exactly innocent.

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