Princeton vs Bluefield WV
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#1 Dec 25, 2007
Just out of curiosity, I looked up the demographics of Bluefield WV and Princeton on the City-Data.com/city site. It indicated that the crime index of Princeton was considerably higher than Bluefield’s. Also, the median household income in Princeton was lower than Bluefield’s. I was very much surprised by the crime index data. What are your thoughts concerning which of the two is the most desirable place to live, for a retired family and also for a working family.(Just wondering)
#2 Dec 25, 2007
It doesn't surprise me any. But like Bluefield it depends on where you live . Princeton has high and low crime arias. There are more people living in the high crime arias and lots of folks moving in without personally checking on the neighborhood before buying a house. I spent 7 years looking before I bought, and I still got robed LMBO. Most crime in Princeton goes unreported in the Crime data, like falsely portraying a contractors License, and pretending to be someone they are not, those are high crimes in Princeton and they do not pursue them, they just sweep them under the rug and call them Civil. Those crimes carry tough prison sentences else where, but Princeton Say's they are civil,,,
So the difference in the crime index depends on how bad they want to enforce the laws. A check over $275 is a felony, but if they don't want to pursue it they tell the store owner to file a civil suite.
#3 Dec 26, 2007
Thanks for the comment. After I posted I got to thinking that there might not matter too much in which town one lives nowadays since they are so close in proximity. I remember those towns from before WW-II and it seems that they were separated by 11 miles of nothingness. Nowadays, that 11 miles may be grown up with development. I would like to get back to southern WV to see it all again. I still remember several people that I went to school with that are living back there. Way back when I was a kid, Bluefield was a big wonderful city with a lot of hams, a big radio club, an airport with air shows once in a while and lots of motorcyclists. All these things were interesting to me back then and still are but to a lesser degree. Just the name East River Mountain has always had a mystique to it from my perception of it.
#4 Dec 26, 2007
Well Bluefield grew and then fell when the railroad wasn't handling megaton's of coal. The City Fathers was stealing over a million dollars a year off of the city . Although federal warrants was taken out for them ,nothing was ever done about it, and I'd place my bet on them still stealing the money right now, They have not promoted any new businesses accept what the people put in out of their wallets.
Although mercer county has grown up the money to make it grow came from retirees from McDowell county who actually got tired of the Local Government taking all they had in fines and tax raises and stealing their tax money for their private use, not to mention the court system was on Drugs so bad that I for one didn't want a crack head judging me, and no sober people in that place was available when a sober person wanted to counter a warrant.
So there is growth in mercer county , and a ghost town in welch, and a few straggler in Bluefield trying to keep the place afloat. They are doing good, but small businesses that only have one or no employees don't help the situation one bit..
Come and see us..
#5 Jan 10, 2008
Perhaps I am all wrong about this but don't think so. Princeton has grown largely due to the interstate going right through it, and it has a much fresher look. A really problem area is Mercer Street and it seems they have never been able to do much about that. It seems Bluefield has an older population. I do not know how true it is, but have always heard the city fathers tried so hard to keep competition out of Bluefield WV that everything moved to Bluefield, Virginia. Bluefield, Virginia is growing by leaps and bounds. But, like most towns/cities the inner city area is in decline, while most people prefer outskirts/suburbs. I have personally always felt it was really great we had these two towns so close together and yet so different.
#6 Jan 29, 2008
Don't care... Both are dangerous, and so are the schools. I will be faking my address and sending my daughter to Graham next year. I'm sick and tired of the Drugs, Weapons and Race Issues
#7 Mar 27, 2008
When I was a kid, 100 years ago, Bluefield was the happening place. You hardly found a place to park, and the sidewalks were crowded with people.
Then came Mercer Mall, and killed Bluefield.
Now, Walmart is killing Mercer Mall.
As far as Crime, I believe that is totally dependent upon drug activity around here. That goes for thefts, which items are sold for oxycontin money. Robberies. Murders. All centered around drugs.
(I personally have observed over 400 syringes, laying on the side of the road around Princeton. It's a HUGE problem.)
I think it's dependent upon the area, where crime hits the most. You'd be lest apt to be bothered in Quail Valley, than on the Lower End of Mercer St.(Hell's Half Acre.)
Bluefield Virginia saw the handwriting on the wall, and modified their tax laws to make business there grow. They are smaller, but have more money to work with, because they draw business.
Bluefield seems to have a superiority complex. Their town is crumbling down around them, but, they still think they are the cream of the crop.
For example, notice how WVVA shuts Princeton out of their station ID's. They say, "Bluefield, Beckley." That is another mindset around here that is bad. That the state ends at Ghent.
Princeton is growing due to the Turnpike, but, I believe we have sold our souls to the devil for prosperity.
Look at our businesses.
Walmart, that imports Chinese products. They sell the exact same crap as Big Lots, but, they package it more nicely.
Ummm, Southern Exposure. This draws truckers, but, it is bad that Princeton let them move into this area. They should of rebuilt down Kellysville.
Keno Parlors. Last year, the State guy said, Princeton put in $5 million dollars, into Keno Machines.
Churches, who are only worried about Growth and Numbers, and bringing in the cash, without ever really worrying about the Community, and seeing souls saved.
But, all in all, compared to some of the places I've been; Princeton isn't that bad.
Mercer St. is a problem. It could be remedied, if they'd close down residential housing up there, make it all zoned commercial, turn apartments into business offices, and cause that population to move elsewhere.
Also, the entire Mercer St. area, looks just like any other small town city. To draw in nice business up there, you'd have to give the entire street a makeover.
Also, parking is a big problem. Even with 2 parking lots, when you see guys fighting up there, or prossies, many people don't want to park and walk around Princeton.
Maybe they keep it this way on purpose, to push people out to Walmart.
Who, if they do incorporate, can bring in big tax money to Princeton.
#8 Mar 31, 2008
Take away our women on mercer street and I will move back to mexico!
My brothers in the big brown lincoln will have to buy a honda if the drug buisness goes under on mercer street!
But the police does not see nothing but the little brown envelope to turn there heads to all...
God forbid if they check my green card, it is actually yellow! The reason you see me walking is because I cannot furnish proper ID to the DMV. They want a birth certificate, water, electric, sewer bill to prove residency.
#9 Apr 5, 2008
Read the post,
"The decline of Southern WV."
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