Mercer County begins truancy crackdown

Mercer County begins truancy crackdown

There are 124 comments on the Charleston Daily Mail story from Dec 27, 2011, titled Mercer County begins truancy crackdown. In it, Charleston Daily Mail reports that:

The Mercer County Board of Education is taking chronically truant students and some parents to court as part of a new program aimed at reducing truancy in its schools.

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ptown

Beckley, WV

#1 Dec 27, 2011
I can understand the reasoning for this,but some parents take their kids to and from school and they go in one door and out the back or go off school grounds at lunch. I have been there with my child, he's the one skipping and I got arrested twice. What are these parents supposed to do? I had my child put on ADHD meds. which didn't help. I talked to psychologists. I finally had to take him out and home school.
dumb laws

Fairfield, VA

#2 Dec 27, 2011
yeah the system is always up your ass about something thats why i let and encouraged my kids to drop out as soon as they were old enuff to get out from under the grip of the system , but they all got there ged,s without any law telling us when to do it or how many days you can miss or you go to jail bs .. fuck the law
Machelle

United States

#3 Dec 27, 2011
You all are a bunch of idiots. If you lack contol of your children, take control. If they don't don't want to follow your rules but them in an alternative program or send them to military school. The rules are in place to try to help stabalized kids lives and to prevent them from growing up to be uneducated fools that mooch off the system. Getting a GED is a wonderful thing but the sad fact is employers look at GED's differently than regular high school diplomas. So anyone who would want their child to drop out and become a statistic is an idiot theirself. Anyone who goes jail TWICE for their child needs their head checked. I will tell you this much if I hade to go to jail for my child's truancy issue then you best darn believe I would see to it it didn't happen again no matter what. As for the ADHD medication, a pill doesn't fix everything. Why don't people try to be actual parents and quit blaming the "system" for their kids being peices of crap drop outs.
peggy

Beckley, WV

#4 Dec 27, 2011
Machelle wrote:
You all are a bunch of idiots. If you lack contol of your children, take control. If they don't don't want to follow your rules but them in an alternative program or send them to military school. The rules are in place to try to help stabalized kids lives and to prevent them from growing up to be uneducated fools that mooch off the system. Getting a GED is a wonderful thing but the sad fact is employers look at GED's differently than regular high school diplomas. So anyone who would want their child to drop out and become a statistic is an idiot theirself. Anyone who goes jail TWICE for their child needs their head checked. I will tell you this much if I hade to go to jail for my child's truancy issue then you best darn believe I would see to it it didn't happen again no matter what. As for the ADHD medication, a pill doesn't fix everything. Why don't people try to be actual parents and quit blaming the "system" for their kids being peices of crap drop outs.
I totally disagree..I had a child that would not stay in school.Short of going to school with him, I had tried every threat and punishment there is.I coulnt go to school with him cause I am widowed and had to work.Dont judge people unless you have been in their shoes.
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ptown

Beckley, WV

#6 Dec 27, 2011
Machelle wrote:
You all are a bunch of idiots. If you lack contol of your children, take control. If they don't don't want to follow your rules but them in an alternative program or send them to military school. The rules are in place to try to help stabalized kids lives and to prevent them from growing up to be uneducated fools that mooch off the system. Getting a GED is a wonderful thing but the sad fact is employers look at GED's differently than regular high school diplomas. So anyone who would want their child to drop out and become a statistic is an idiot theirself. Anyone who goes jail TWICE for their child needs their head checked. I will tell you this much if I hade to go to jail for my child's truancy issue then you best darn believe I would see to it it didn't happen again no matter what. As for the ADHD medication, a pill doesn't fix everything. Why don't people try to be actual parents and quit blaming the "system" for their kids being peices of crap drop outs.
First, I didn't go to jail. Terry Hughes dropped the charges when I told him I was working with rhe principal, guidance counselors, and Terry himself. I tried everything I could to keep him in school. Don,t judge til you know the whole story. Second, he has ADHD. I,m not blaming anyone, but some parents can,t afford to our kids to a private school. I did check on alternative school, they don,t always have the space for the kids. Have you checked to see if there is space, because when it happened to me, no space available. You need to talk to other parents who have had to deal with school system. It Sucks.

Since: Sep 11

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#7 Dec 27, 2011
It is apparent that the county has overstepped its bounds. It is bad enough that the county robs its citizens to pay for its sub-par schools that look like prisons...if one cannot afford private school, I'd advise a move to another county so at least one's property tax dollars are not a party to these shenanigans.
hmm

Beckley, WV

#8 Dec 28, 2011
Where can a parent or student obtain a copy of this new policy? How are people supposed to follow a policy that they have not seen, other than a few blurbs here and there in the paper? I've read articles that claim ten unexcused absenses are allowed, and others which state it is five. The newest article says that the policy applies to tardies as well, but they did not elaborate on the details. Is it true that only absences related to illness of the student will be excused? What about deaths or illness in the family, important trips, or severe weather for students in rural areas? I can't be the only one who is confused!

They need to be clearer, because the way that they are handling this is just causing fear and confusion, even for great parents and students. I would also like to see some evidence for the statistics they are touting. 8 of 10 dropouts wind up in jail? Dropping out is bad, but where did they get this figure from? It seems a tad bit inflated.
hmm

Beckley, WV

#9 Dec 28, 2011
For anyone interested, I managed to find a full copy of the policy in PDF format. I still find it pretty unclear, but it does resolve some questions. To find it, simply do a Google search for 'Mercer County Policy J-10'. It should be the first result in the list.
Parent

Oakvale, WV

#10 Dec 28, 2011
i have heard that it is 5 unexcused absences.. and the whole thing about what is taking place jan.1 is they already have all the files of the kids who have missed and are sending them straight to the courthouse and the dhhr.. I agree that it is ridiculous bc every1s situation is different.. But the only reason the "system" is cracking dwn is bc you have the few parents that don't give a crap about their children & dnt make the effort to get up and get them ready for school... Can't really blame the system... Even tho some suffer and are not being treated fair.. U need to blame the parents that caused the whole issue in the first place..
disagree

United States

#11 Dec 28, 2011
Machelle wrote:
You all are a bunch of idiots. If you lack contol of your children, take control. If they don't don't want to follow your rules but them in an alternative program or send them to military school. The rules are in place to try to help stabalized kids lives and to prevent them from growing up to be uneducated fools that mooch off the system. Getting a GED is a wonderful thing but the sad fact is employers look at GED's differently than regular high school diplomas. So anyone who would want their child to drop out and become a statistic is an idiot theirself. Anyone who goes jail TWICE for their child needs their head checked. I will tell you this much if I hade to go to jail for my child's truancy issue then you best darn believe I would see to it it didn't happen again no matter what. As for the ADHD medication, a pill doesn't fix everything. Why don't people try to be actual parents and quit blaming the "system" for their kids being peices of crap drop outs.
When you stop looking through rose colored glasses post something that makes sense!!! Parents can't follow their kids all day - most of us have to work!!! Idiots like you just add to the mess so before passing judgement - get all the facts!!!!
Zonker

Bluefield, WV

#12 Dec 28, 2011
Here we go again, back when parents use to discipline their children this was not an issue. As soon as it is suggested that they should raise their children to respect the rules the parents look for one hundred reasons or excuses for them. From the way I understand it is if your child is of the middle or high school age and this problem persists the DHHR will take control and enroll them into Sam Perdue High, up on the hill on Bluefield Road next to the other abandoned animals. Personally I think it's one of the best decision that has been made recently.
ADHD??? This is just an excuse that has been invented in the last 25 or 30 years, I know that they didn't have it when I was growing up. Parents take responsibility for your children and stop your whining.
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Since: Sep 11

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#14 Dec 28, 2011
I took a look at J-10.

This confirms my sentiment aforesaid i.e. that the county is overstepping its bounds.

It is apparent that the county sees a minor as its own chattel as opposed to the son or daughter born to parents. Furthermore, the tone of the document is that of a prison warden as opposed to a superintendent or any reasonable person.

Voting does not solve things, but passive resistance does.
Cant wait

Lerona, WV

#15 Dec 28, 2011
I think it is great.. Parents should be parents andnot a fiend to their child. Parents need to make their kids think school is important..and if they cant get up and see to it that they are at school on time and have doctors excuses when they are needed..then put them in jail..the fact is..working parents dont usually have these problems..its the darn welfare cases that sit at home and wait on a reload to a card every month... Kids ave no consequenses anymore..it should be..if you get in trouble at school..you get in trouble at home.. I cant wait to start seeing these parents getting locked up.. just cant wait!:-)
Machelle

United States

#16 Dec 28, 2011
See what you people who diagreed with me have overlooked is you can say "I've thretened them". How about not just threatening them and actually following through. There is always room for them in state schools in huntington and other places. Trying to be a good parent and throwing your problems off on others are 2 totally different things. My glasses are off thank you very much. I see people for exactly what they are. I work in the system. I know it is flawed. However, making excuses for your brats and giving them "chance after chance" isn't cutting it. There is the entire generation of drug babies and kids being raised by grandparents. How about not having kids if you can't handle them. Now, of course, there are always exceptions to the rule. I highly doubt the system would turn someone away if they actually asked for helped and proved they cared. If you are having behavioral problems with your kids many things could be going on. 1)they could just be monsters you created 2)they could be being abused in some way 3) they could be abusing drugs and alcohol. I personally think kids who have no respect for anyone, even when their parents try, should be locked up. People give too many chances and turn a blind eye because most of the time they're lazy, lazy, lazy.
lmao

Huntington, IN

#17 Dec 28, 2011
eclipesgt wrote:
So glad this was not in effect when I was in school
Amen to that....my poor mommy would still be in jail lmao
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Stupes

Beckley, WV

#19 Dec 28, 2011
Zonker wrote:
Here we go again, back when parents use to discipline their children this was not an issue. As soon as it is suggested that they should raise their children to respect the rules the parents look for one hundred reasons or excuses for them. From the way I understand it is if your child is of the middle or high school age and this problem persists the DHHR will take control and enroll them into Sam Perdue High, up on the hill on Bluefield Road next to the other abandoned animals. Personally I think it's one of the best decision that has been made recently.
ADHD??? This is just an excuse that has been invented in the last 25 or 30 years, I know that they didn't have it when I was growing up. Parents take responsibility for your children and stop your whining.
No. Back in the really old days, children often missed many days of school, and some were even encouraged or forced by their parents to quit so that they could help out at home or on the farm. Many of these children did not even learn to read before they had to quit, and this us why school attendance became mandatory to start with.

There were no "good ol' days", and in fact, most parents today are far more concerned about their children's education than a good deal of parents in the past. It's a myth that parents are getting worse, we just have different expectations and rules for parents now.
hmm

Beckley, WV

#20 Dec 28, 2011
Anyone concerned about this policy should look at it by Googling 'Mercer County Policy J-10'. The first result should be the complete policy in PDF format.

It is still open for public comment until January 17th. The form used to make public comments is on the first page of that PDF document. If you have concerns, please express them. This policy is everyone's business, as it concerns either our children, the spending of our tax dollars, or both. This policy involves the creation of new county paid job positions, use of our court system, and an additional workload that will be added to the Department of Health and Human Resources.

We are all entitled to voice our opinions whether they are positive or negative.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#21 Dec 29, 2011
Having tutored many in high school, students are more likely to improve their literacy, numeracy, and diction outside of Mercer Co. public schools than inside. They are wastelands for the mind.
SLK

Murfreesboro, TN

#22 Dec 29, 2011
Fenrisulfr wrote:
Having tutored many in high school, students are more likely to improve their literacy, numeracy, and diction outside of Mercer Co. public schools than inside. They are wastelands for the mind.
I can't speak for the kids that are in school now, but most of the kids I went to school with were highly unmotivated. One of the problems I had was with my papers being graded incorrectly by teachers or ever other students. I would bring it up with a teacher and they would usually put it off and ignore it. After awhile of this, I finally gave up on it and starting slacking.

I had bunch of graded papers sitting around from a previous semester and my mom started looking at them and found several questions on several papers that were marked wrong, when they were actually correct. At that point, it was too late for me to have my grade changed.

This caused me a great deal irritation and fueled my unmotivated behaviors and hatred of school. I tired everything there was to get out of going to school as many times as I could. Now when I've grown up a little and started studying to take my ACTs, I regret it.

I'm not speaking for everyone, but this was my experience.
ptown

Beckley, WV

#23 Dec 29, 2011
Why are the parents being blamed? They are doing everything they can. Most of the parents I know work and can't follow their child around in school all day. After the child is dropped off at school, I thought the school was responsible for the child to stay there. Why don't they bring back corporal punishment? It was good enough for us when we were growing up. The bible says' "Spare the rod, spoil the child". I highly believe in this. The state is putting their noses in too many peoples lives that don't deserve it. They sit in their offices trying to figure out a way to be in every one home life. I can understand doing this to some people, but some of us do try everything we can to keep our kids in school. If you have an ADHD child, you would understand where I'm coming from.

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