Jesus Was A Socialist
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spyder

Princeton, WV

#1 Sep 11, 2012
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said,“You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.

Luke 6:20-21 Then he looked up at his disciples and said:‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.’Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled.‘Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.

Matthew 25:34-36 Then the king will say to those at his right hand,“Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”

Mark 12:41-44 He sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the crowd putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. 42 A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which are worth a penny. 43 Then he called his disciples and said to them,“Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. 44 For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”

Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him,“When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”

Luke 12:16-21 Then he told them a parable:“The land of a rich man produced abundantly. And he thought to himself,‘What should I do, for I have no place to store my crops?’ Then he said,‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul,‘Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.’ But God said to him,‘You fool! This very night your life is being demanded of you. And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So it is with those who store up treasures for themselves but are not rich toward God.”
FYI

Princeton, WV

#2 Sep 11, 2012
Amen!

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Since: Oct 11

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#3 Sep 11, 2012
There is no instance when Jesus suggested that taking care of the poor, the hungry, the widowed, the sick, the downtrodden, was the role of the state. He asked for and praised *individual acts* of sacrifice and charity.

"Sell what *YOU* own" was his command, not "Sell what you own and force all your neighbors to do the same."

"When *YOU* give a banquet, invite the poor" but you have no right to redistribute the wealth of your neighbors and countrymen who choose not to heed the commands of Jesus. There is no honor in forced redistribution and forced sacrifice imposed by the state.

Yet I agree that the world would be a much better place if more people who are in a position to help others in need would voluntarily do so.
Earl

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Sep 11, 2012
He also needed a good pair of shoes.
Earl

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Sep 11, 2012
Beatrices Hat wrote:
There is no instance when Jesus suggested that taking care of the poor, the hungry, the widowed, the sick, the downtrodden, was the role of the state. He asked for and praised *individual acts* of sacrifice and charity.
"Sell what *YOU* own" was his command, not "Sell what you own and force all your neighbors to do the same."
"When *YOU* give a banquet, invite the poor" but you have no right to redistribute the wealth of your neighbors and countrymen who choose not to heed the commands of Jesus. There is no honor in forced redistribution and forced sacrifice imposed by the state.
Yet I agree that the world would be a much better place if more people who are in a position to help others in need would voluntarily do so.
But we don't want to voluntarily do so. Most of the poor are just lazy and want to live from the fruits of others so we BALK>
Earl

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Sep 11, 2012
He would have been a lot happier if he had just drank more wine.
Stuffed

Princeton, WV

#7 Sep 11, 2012
Earl wrote:
<quoted text>But we don't want to voluntarily do so. Most of the poor are just lazy and want to live from the fruits of others so we BALK>
Jesus did not say to help the poor unless they are lazy. He said to help the poor no matter what! Jesus helped the very lowliest in society, even thieves and prostitutes. Perhaps the people you call lazy are a test for you from God.

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Matawan, NJ

#8 Sep 11, 2012
Earl wrote:
<quoted text>But we don't want to voluntarily do so. Most of the poor are just lazy and want to live from the fruits of others so we BALK>
^^^Says the lady who has spent her whole life living off the taxpayers.
Jamie

Princeton, WV

#9 Sep 12, 2012
If Jesus were in Congress today, instead of being another dead weight politician pandering to the rich, he would be knocking over tables on the Senate floor like he did at the temple demanding equal treatment for the poor.
common sense

Princeton, WV

#10 Sep 12, 2012
paul also said if you don't work you don't eat.
No_No_Bad Dog_

Athens, WV

#11 Sep 12, 2012
Jamie wrote:
If Jesus were in Congress today, instead of being another dead weight politician pandering to the rich, he would be knocking over tables on the Senate floor like he did at the temple demanding equal treatment for the poor.
So you know the mind of God, huh? Pitiful!

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Matawan, NJ

#12 Sep 12, 2012
common sense wrote:
paul also said if you don't work you don't eat.
Apparently the bible is a book full of contradictions. No wonder Christians are so confused.
I know

Rupert, WV

#13 Sep 12, 2012
common sense wrote:
paul also said if you don't work you don't eat.
Yeah, well, Jesus outranks Paul. The saying is "What would Jesus do?" not "What would Paul do?"
I know

Rupert, WV

#14 Sep 12, 2012
No_No_Bad Dog_ wrote:
<quoted text>
So you know the mind of God, huh? Pitiful!
That poster might be wrong, but given the evidence we have, it is hard to believe that Jesus would cater to the rich.

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:23-24
Lisa L

Princeton, WV

#15 Sep 13, 2012
Jesus would be for enough regulation of capitalism to accomplish the Matthew 25:31-46 goals, not for the law-of-the-jungle, let-them-suffer-it's-their-own -fault Hobbesianism of the the Republican right-wing.
Mountaineer Freedom

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Sep 14, 2012
Why are referring to Jesus in past tense?, he is a living god.

Level 4

Since: Apr 08

Rock, WV.

#17 Sep 14, 2012
I know wrote:
<quoted text>
That poster might be wrong, but given the evidence we have, it is hard to believe that Jesus would cater to the rich.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:23-24
I wouldn't be throwing any stones using that scripture if I were you. In a world view our poorest would be considered rich, so that could apply to our entire country.
No_No_Bad Dog_

Athens, WV

#18 Sep 14, 2012
Lisa L wrote:
Jesus would be for enough regulation of capitalism to accomplish the Matthew 25:31-46 goals, not for the law-of-the-jungle, let-them-suffer-it's-their-own -fault Hobbesianism of the the Republican right-wing.
And how do you know this? You think that Jesus would use the threat of using the tip of a Roman spear (government)on someone if they didn't pay their "fair share" to feed and clothe others?
Josh

Jersey City, NJ

#19 Nov 25, 2012
Yes Jesus was a socialist. That explains why it is so easy for banks and governments to exploit humanity. Because socialism is a failed system that only leads to tyranny.
Tradition or Truth

Mebane, NC

#20 Nov 25, 2012
spyder wrote:
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said,“You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Luke 6:20-21 Then he looked up at his disciples and said:‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.’Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled.‘Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.
Matthew 25:34-36 Then the king will say to those at his right hand,“Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”
Mark 12:41-44 He sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the crowd putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. 42 A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which are worth a penny. 43 Then he called his disciples and said to them,“Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. 44 For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”
Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him,“When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”
Luke 12:16-21 Then he told them a parable:“The land of a rich man produced abundantly. And he thought to himself,‘What should I do, for I have no place to store my crops?’ Then he said,‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul,‘Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.’ But God said to him,‘You fool! This very night your life is being demanded of you. And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So it is with those who store up treasures for themselves but are not rich toward God.”
sometimes there are points that we overlook..like:..The 10 Commandments are based on 2 things :(1) Love toward God:(the first 4 commandments) and:(2) Love toward fellowman:(the last 6 commandments) The 'young man who went away sorrowful'.. did not love GOD enough to give up the posessions that he had, and so, broke the first 4.. and did not love his fellowman enough to give up his posessions, and so, broke the last 6 commandments. so.. in that decision, he chose posessions above God's commandments and with that decision- he broke all 10 commandments!

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