When I was teaching, this is a song I often heard sung. So one year I kept meticulous track of the "hours worked", and it turned out to be 2,072 hours. Not a whole lot different that the person working 2,000 hours per year (50 weeks x 40 hours/week). What surprised me a bit was that I thought I would've worked *more* than 2,072 hours, but it turned out to not be the case.<quoted text>come on man . that is the dumbest thing ive ever heard . they are off more days in a year than what they really work . there is no other job in the world like that .
#21 Mar 5, 2013
#22 Mar 5, 2013
If kids are "dumber" it is because of their drug abusing parents or absentee parents, not teachers.
#23 Mar 5, 2013
I can half way agree with that
#24 Mar 6, 2013
When you decide that teaching is the career for you, is it because of the pay? Unless you are tenured at a university big money will never come out of this job. It stars a little over $26k per year, after many years you will hit the $36-$45k range.
I have zero sympathy for a teacher complaining about pay when this is there chosen career. Especially when you factor in the benefits like: work 9 months a year,plus vacation and sick leave, great healthcare and good working hours.
Go find a better deal in the private sector if you don't like it. Give up on the unions, maybe that money, you are paying them could come back to you?
With this economy, there are a lot of folks that would love to have the job teachers have. Be thankful for what you have.
#25 Mar 6, 2013
Teachers do not deserve any pay increase. They barely work at all. My son makes good grades on his report card and standardized tests because his genetics and upbringing. Even though I am dead tired after working all day, I spend time with him every evening tutoring him. Teachers are high paid baby sitters. I was a teacher for a couple of years before becoming a manager at a retail store. Teachers unions screw everything up. They make it so the old lazy teachers get the good jobs and make the most money. It should be based on performance. However, it would be unfair to teachers at crappy inner-city or rural schools. Many students are near brain dead and have the attention span of a gnat. Many teachers are teaching because of the weekends off, summers off, hollidays off, snow days off, insurance, retirement, and generous salary. Between the dumb students from broken families and the lazy or predatory teachers, America's school system is awful. That is why I got out of teaching.
#26 Mar 6, 2013
For those of you on here who consider school teachers "glorified babysitters":
"Teachers hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year. Its time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do babysit. We can get that for less than minimum wage.
Thats right. Lets give them $3 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day maybe 30? So thats $19.50 x 30 =$585.00 a day.
However, remember they only work 180 days a year. I am not going to pay them for any vacations.
LETS SEE Thats $585 X 180=$105,300 per year.(Hold on. My calculator needs new batteries.)
What about those special education teachers and the ones with masters degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days =$280,800 per year.
Wait a minute theres something wrong here. There sure is.
The average teachers salary (nationwide) is $50,000.$50,000/180 days =$277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours =$1.42 per hour per student a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!)
WHAT A DEAL!" (Author Unknown)
I have been teaching school for over 10 years and have yet to hit the $50,000 average teacher's salary. No, I don't teach during the summer, but I don't get paid either - I get laid off. Sure, I can set my pay up to withhold money to get a check over the summer, but that just means my paychecks are smaller through the entire year. I don't get paid for vacation days or holidays - they are out of calendar days. I get 3 personal days and 12 sick days a year and get exposed to every childhood illness coming and going. I take work home with me and stay late to finish. I'm expected to get my classroom set up in one day (which is impossible) so I come in over the summer to prepare. I'm required to take graduate courses to keep my certificate current that I am responsible for paying for myself. I can no longer ask my students to provide anything for their own education so I spend my own money on folders and pencils and classroom supplies. When a child in my school suffers from an illness or a family tragedy, I put money in the envelope that gets passed around. And on top of all that, people outside of education spend their free time talking about what a bad job I'm doing. Come spend a day in my world and you will realize that if I didn't love my job and love my students there wouldn't be enough perks to keep me there. Let's find another profession to pick on....hey, what about those doctors that let people die or attorneys that lose cases or the repairman that can't fix my refrigerator...let's crucify them next!
#27 Mar 7, 2013
Amen. Teachers work hard for very little respect. I love my students and work very hard to ensure that each one of them is successful. Teaching is not an easy profession and anyone who claims otherwise has either never taught or did so very poorly. The majority of teachers that I work with work very hard and truly care about each and every student. They stay after school, spend money out of their own pockets to provide for their kids, research strategies, deal with very challenging behaviors and diagnoses on a daily basis, are given very little planning time, are often given nearly impossible standards to meet regardless of influences outside of their control (absenteeism, behavior disorders, ridiculous mandates from politicians that have never stepped foot inside of a classroom, abuse, children that come from homes that do not value education, etc) but we still strive to do our best. Many times I am awake at night trying to think of ideas to help my students succeed. Teachers spend 8 hours per day with your children. We get to know them very well. We love them...often as if they were our own. It is very frustrating and disheartening to me to hear people put down my profession when I know first hand all that goes into it. But I will keep on teaching and loving my job. Not because of the money. I dont think teachers are greedy by nature. We know very well how much money we will be making when we choose our profession. We are certainly not in it for the money and most arent in it for summers or holidays either. Despite what the general public believes, teachers are not paid during summer months or holidays. A little recognition and respect, however, would be appreciated. Just spend one day in any elementary classroom and you will see what I am talking about.
#28 Mar 7, 2013
I have no problem with giving teachers a raise if, and only if, all other public employees are also given the same amount. If the state can only afford a ten cent raise for all of of them, let it be ten cents, twenty five cents, whatever they can afford across the board.
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