Israel Solidarity Forum Sunday at JCC

Full story: Asheville Citizen-Times

A community forum to show solidarity with Israel will be held at 3:30 p.m. Sunday at the Jewish Community Center at 236 Charlotte St.
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motmot

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I have nothing but the deepest of respect for Israel. It saddens me to watch the UN and the double standard practiced there. Israel did not start this most recent Gaza situation. They have the right to defend themselves as does every other nation. I also have no respect for "soldiers" who use civilians as shields.Hamas are cowards, they can not win a conventional war so they set up their women and children to become "victims" as Israel fires back. It is a very sick PR campaign manipulated by Hamas.This is not about Religion for me, I am not Jewish, I am a tree hugging dirt worshiper. None the less I plan to be at the JCC Sunday.I would much rather have Isarel as a neighbor, rather than Gaza,Jordan,Egypt,Syria and Lebanon as neighbors.

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I would love to go though I am not sure I will be able to. I hope a lot of people do show up. I am not Jewish but I support Israel against the terrorists.
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Anyone who ignorantly supports the terrorists should have to go live with them until they get it figured out.

I ALSO hope there are a lot of folks at this event. And I hope the Asheville Citizen Times reports on it without insulting our Jewish community.
Dionysis

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Let's see now; Israel took Gaza in 1967, and occupied it until three years ago. In that power vacuum, the terrorist group Hamas won in a democratic election (the Bush administration equates elections with 'democracy'). Crude missiles began to be launced in 1995, and to date, have killed ten Israelis.

In the last eleven days, there have been reported over 600 Palestinians killed by Israel, many women and children, mostly by airstrikes. Just this week, a UN 'protected' school was struck, even though the UN gave GPS coordinates of their facilities to Israel, in addition to clearly marking these sites, both day and night to avoid attacks. Israel says the deaths of hundreds of civilians is the fault of Hamas (they hide their rocket launchers behind civilians, as they almost certainly do). Instead of the well-equiped and trained Israeli forces cordoning off the areas from where the rockets originated and taking them out, they go full-bore with airstrikes and artillary bombardments. They have even been reported to have use phosphorous bombs. It can't be verified since Israel will not let journalists in.

Support Israel's right to exist? Yes. Have solidarity with this? No way.
Jim Greenwood

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Dionysis wrote:
They have even been reported to have use phosphorous bombs. It can't be verified since Israel will not let journalists in.
And yet you trot this "info" out there because?
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motmot wrote:
... They have the right to defend themselves as does every other nation...
Exactly! If someone punches me in the face, I have every right to kill him, kill his wife, their kids, his neighbors, burn down their house and to destroy whatever hospital they go to just in case I was too sloppy in my massacre and somebody accidentally survived. It's the only way for peace.

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The UN provided the IDF with the coordinates of all of their schools -- Israel bombed a UN school, lied about it, provided video from 2007 and claimed Hamas was firing from the school, more lies.

Harretz is an Israeli newspaper...
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UN: IDF officers admitted there was no gunfire from Gaza school which was shelled

By Barak Ravid and Akiva Eldar, Haaretz

The United Nations is claiming Israeli military officers have admitted there was no Palestinian gunfire emanating from inside an UNRWA school in Gaza which was shelled by an IDF tank.

Dozens of Palestinians were killed in the shelling.

He noted that all the footage released by the IDF of militants firing from inside the school was from 2007 and not from the incident itself.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054009.h...

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IDF evacuated Palestinian civilians to a house - then bomb it.

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From Haaretz, Israel's oldest news paper:

UN: IDF bombed building in Gaza that housed civilians

A UN agency has said Israeli troops evacuated Palestinian civilians to a house in Gaza City, then shelled the building 24 hours later.

The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs dated the incident to Jan. 4, a day after Israel began its ground offensive against Hamas militants in Gaza.

The UN agency said 110 people were in the house and 30 people were killed, far higher figures than in other accounts.

It said a Red Cross medical team was blocked from reaching the area until three days later. Rescuers were allowed in on foot, without ambulances.

"There are no bomb shelters in Gaza," she said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054217.h...

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Local-not-Local wrote:
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Exactly! If someone punches me in the face, I have every right to kill him, kill his wife, their kids, his neighbors, burn down their house and to destroy whatever hospital they go to just in case I was too sloppy in my massacre and somebody accidentally survived. It's the only way for peace.
Well, they wouldn't punch you in the face any more. Hamas started it. Let Israel finish it.

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Zonga Old Nurse wrote:
The UN provided the IDF with the coordinates of all of their schools -- Israel bombed a UN school, lied about it, provided video from 2007 and claimed Hamas was firing from the school, more lies.
Harretz is an Israeli newspaper...
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UN: IDF officers admitted there was no gunfire from Gaza school which was shelled
By Barak Ravid and Akiva Eldar, Haaretz
The United Nations is claiming Israeli military officers have admitted there was no Palestinian gunfire emanating from inside an UNRWA school in Gaza which was shelled by an IDF tank.
Dozens of Palestinians were killed in the shelling.
He noted that all the footage released by the IDF of militants firing from inside the school was from 2007 and not from the incident itself.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054009.h...
Do you believe the United Nations?

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Israelis blockade Gaza since June of 2007.

What is a blockade if not an act of war?
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mlc9852 wrote:
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Do you believe the United Nations?
NO!!!!
Intifada Out

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Chris wrote:
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NO!!!!
If you're looking for a weapons factory in Gaza, the first thing you need to locate are the UNRWA areas.

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From the US Congress:

Ron Paul: Israel Created Hamas and Solidarity with Israel

January 09, 2009 C-SPAN

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mlc9852 wrote:
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Do you believe the United Nations?
Haaretz reported the story, it is the oldest Israeli newspaper in Israel.

You might get an eye opening experience if you read Haaretz...

Just get out
By Haaretz Editorial
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054162.h...

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Israel okays call-up of tens of thousands of IDF reservists

By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1052311.h...
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Zonga Old Nurse wrote:
From the US Congress:
Ron Paul: Israel Created Hamas and Solidarity with Israel
January 09, 2009 C-SPAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4Z6vMAowf4XX
Hamas is an offshoot of the Moslem Brotherhood
You really need to read the Hamas charter.
Israel permitted their existence in Gaza as a balance to the PLO. Turns out, the PLO is now "moderate" (that's a real relative term when speaking about arabs) and wants to govern. Hamas merely wants to kill jews.

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local wrote:
Anyone who ignorantly supports the terrorists should have to go live with them until they get it figured out.
I ALSO hope there are a lot of folks at this event. And I hope the Asheville Citizen Times reports on it without insulting our Jewish community.
"And I hope the Asheville Citizen Times reports on it without insulting our Jewish community."

Who do you support - Israel or the USA?

Not much chance of "insulting our Jewish community" unless American patriots show up to question the propaganda:

http://www.ujc.org/page.aspx...
Rally Talking Points on the Current Situation in the Gaza Strip
Adapted From Talking Points Created by JCPA:
The Jewish Council for Public Affairs

Civilian casualties in Gaza:

Israel, as always, is doing everything within its power to limit non-combatant casualties in Gaza, an enormous challenge since Hamas intentionally operates within heavily populated neighborhoods, as well as in schools and mosques. Israel often puts its soldiers at greater risk in order to minimize non-combatant casualties. Even Palestinian statistics show that the vast majority of fatalities are combatants, not civilians. Nevertheless, we know that innocents inevitably will lose their lives on both sides, and we deeply mourn these losses.

Some express anger over the disparity in casualty figures. This is explained, in part, by the fact that Israel does all it can to protect its citizens, while Hamas uses non-combatants in Gaza as human shields in contravention of basic international norms.

Humanitarian Relief:

While carrying out military actions against the Hamas terrorist infrastructure, Israel continues to facilitate caravans of trucks transferring humanitarian relief supplies to the Palestinian civilian population in Gaza.

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Neither do I.
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Local-not-Local,
How do you equate missiles with a punch in the face?

Dionysis,
"Israel took Gaza", didn't you leave out a little bit of history there. I seem to remember that Israel was attacked by it's "neighbors", in a little thing called the Six Day War first. also, where did you obtain your information about the use of Phosphorus bombs?

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