Magistrate sues four county residents
Another Northerner

Hopkinsville, KY

#915 Sep 19, 2012
research please wrote:
<quoted text>
NB was not at the shelter at the time that was written... From my understanding Abby does not do the Facebook page. Abby was suspended April 3 or 4th and the posting was April 8th? Hhhuummm could that mean that the county had no one that was certified to handle the inmates after Abby was suspended and her mother left? Could they have brought NB back after the suspension? ALL of this is easy to verify, just go to the courthouse and ask for the dates that NB worked the first time and then inquire about the date the JE brought her back.. This really isn't rocket science...
This is the truth! NB was let go by Abby, for MANY reasons. When things started falling apart at the shelter (disorganized, no help, no fundraising,no one capable of running the place), and they were desperate, NB was hired again by the county. Talk about the cat guarding the bird cage!
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#916 Sep 19, 2012
Lol @ this is the truth! I doubt you were there IF any firing took place.
Another Northerner

Hopkinsville, KY

#917 Sep 19, 2012
Id Rather Be Fishing wrote:
Wasn't Patsy a volunteer? Why would a volunteer supervise any one? Lot of things dint make sense.
As I said before, ALL the animals are turned over to CCAR if not claimed in 5 days. CCAR is ALL volunteers and some one has to be the leader of the pack so to speak. 7306Abby and Patsy had clear direction and a system the worked to get all the cleaning, adopting, fundraising etc done.
JKMills

Paducah, KY

#918 Sep 19, 2012
Id Rather Be Fishing wrote:
Wasn't Patsy a volunteer? Why would a volunteer supervise any one? Lot of things dint make sense.
I don't know what status Patsy was at the shelter. She was he one that I seen there the many times that I went there and there was not a cop one around just Patsy and the 7 women inmates in orange. I took pictures when I was there.
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#919 Sep 19, 2012
Leader of the pack! Couldn't have said it better myself! Lol!
Holly Tara

Frankfort, KY

#920 Sep 19, 2012
Claude Balls wrote:
<quoted text>
She had better plea bargain it and cut her losses and move on. She doesn't have the money to pay an attorney for a jury trial and still loose. If she did she would not be out there soliciting for funds; that's what happens to most cases they either don't have the money to fight or it isn't worth what it will end up costing them and if they know they are GUILTY GOING TO JAIL TOO.
I am not saying she is guilty or innocent but is it worth what it is going to cost to try to prove a point. She's already lost her job, been the subject of public scruteny and ridicule, she's not from Princeton so why stay there. Look at all the future problems it may cause her..
What happened that made the subject of a plea bargain come up suddenly yesterday? I am really almost struck dumb by the things you suggest here, Claude.

You say she should cut her losses and move on because you don't believe she has enough money to pay her attorney. Is that what you consider the American justice system to be about--people being found guilty of or pleading guilty to charges based, not on their guilt or innocence, but on how much money they can get together to defend themselves?

You continue, "I am not saying she is guilty or innocent but is it worth what it is going to cost to try to prove a point." You don't care if she is guilty or innocent????? I have my answer for that, Claude. I remember my first-grade teacher telling me to quit talking when I wasn't saying a word. I told her I wasn't talking, and that made the situation worse. She ended up having to drag me out from under the table kicking to put me in the corner. I may have gotten a swat, too. Was it worth it for me to stand up for the truth? Hell, yes. I had always been taught to be truthful and take pride in myself, and I had been believed up to that point when I said something. I was not willing to accept a lie to make things easier. I wasn't talking!!! Are we at some point in our lives supposed to decide that the truth doesn't matter and just try to take the easy way out?

You say further, "She's already lost her job, been the subject of public scruteny and ridicule, she's not from Princeton so why stay there. Look at all the future problems it may cause her." I'll bet she could get a WONDERFUL plea bargain offer from the prosecution at this point because they are going to have a major uphill battle trying to get a conviction on charges that took six days' worth of testimony just to get an indictment. And all of that will have to take place in open court, not behind closed doors, undoubtedly with writeups in the newspaper about the testimony.

My bet is that there was never any intention to actually try Abby on these charges. The city and county could hold kangaroo courts and fire her from both jobs on the basis that she had been indicted for two felonies, and the prosecution could move to dismiss the indictments because, with Abby gone and her reputation ruined, along with job opportunities, it would be a moot point.

They obviously have had success with these bullying tactics in the past, so why not now? The reason for "why not now" is the injunction the court has issued against the city and county totally neutralizing their power to do anything to Abby until the criminal charges are resolved. I can imagine the frustation at even the thought of playing on a more level field than they are used.

Another reason for "why not now" is that they have obviously encountered someone who has too much pride in herself to admit to wrongdoing when she is innocent just to take the "easy way out." And, shockingly, they are encountering citizens who are saying "Enough, already," and are ready to make Princeton a decent place to live and not the source of material for future episodes of a sit-com like "The Dukes of Hazzard."

I say "More power to you, Abby and your supporters!!!"
peace

Louisville, KY

#921 Sep 19, 2012
Id Rather Be Fishing wrote:
Lol @ this is the truth! I doubt you were there IF any firing took place.
just ask the judge executive he will confirm that statement about why she was let go also ask what has happened since she was brought back some the same things that ended up with Ma Tucker no longer employing her at the shelter this is fact not rumors
Holly Tara

Frankfort, KY

#922 Sep 19, 2012
Claude Balls wrote:
<quoted text>

I heard that she was tring to get a warrant to have GL Oveys Hot tub slab of concrete dug up to find a body. Maybe she has found out things that are not wanted told or found out.
I didn't have enough room to discuss this in my former post, and I consider this the most shocking thing you said.

If you really believe that there is a situation in Caldwell County where certain citizens should be allowed to flout the law, what does that say for your character? I infer from what has been posted by others that the concrete you speak of is covering a body. So does that mean someone in the right position could get away with murder in Caldwell County?

And you must think that is okay because you seem to think it is as unhealthy for a police officer to investigate something like this as it is for a toddler to play in the middle of a highway. How can you justify that thinking, Claude? Aren't police officers supposed to uphold the law?

I must say that, with the propensity of at least one person in Caldwell County to file a suit for defamation, some of Abby's detractors seem to be saying things that might get you in hot water. In fact, several of you have said things that are more damning to Rodney and the other members of the clique than any of Abby's supporters have said.

Aside from all of the points you made about it being better to fold ones tent and vanish rather than seek justice in Caldwell, those assertions pale in comparison to this last statement as far as being slanderous. The way I read it, you NAME a person, GL Ovey, and claim you think there is a body under his hot tub. If you don't believe that to be true, why do you think a person could get in trouble for looking into it? So are you saying you believe he is guilty of murder? The commonwealth's attorney who is supposed to prosecute crimes?????

I remember earlier in these posts, one person claimed something to the effect that if Rodney could FIND SOMEONE WHO WOULD TESTIFY that he or she had chosen not to do business with him because of what the women had said, he could get big bucks in his civil suit. I believe most people would be looking for someone who had actually not done business because of what he/she heard. But apparently in Caldwell County all it takes is someone who would testify to it. Doesn't sound good for your side, Claude.

Another person sniggered that, even though Rodney might not prevail in the civil suit, it had certainly shut those women up, which was what he intended all along. Whoa----not a good thing to try to limit people's right of free speech. As I recall, he didn't seem eager to testify that that was the reason for the suit.

So I would say that, generally, with friends like some of you, Rodney and Ovey and other members of the clique don't really need any enemies. You are doing a good job of furnishing damning information about them yourself.
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#923 Sep 19, 2012
Now you are accusing Mr. Ovey of wrongdoing? Pray tell...what was that?
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#924 Sep 19, 2012
Are you lumping any citizen that doesn't believe Abby is completely innocent in this "clique"? If so, I for one...am offended by that "generalization".
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#925 Sep 19, 2012
Come on, Paula, let's hear why you think Mr. Ovey is in the "clique" with Rodney?
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#926 Sep 19, 2012
You implied that Mr. Ovey was in this "witch hunt" for Abby with the "cliche". You might nit be the only sister with a lawsuit to fight.
Claude Balls

White Plains, KY

#927 Sep 19, 2012
Holly Tara wrote:
<quoted text>
What happened that made the subject of a plea bargain come up suddenly yesterday? I am really almost struck dumb by the things you suggest here, Claude.
You say she should cut her losses and move on because you don't believe she has enough money to pay her attorney. Is that what you consider the American justice system to be about--people being found guilty of or pleading guilty to charges based, not on their guilt or innocence, but on how much money they can get together to defend themselves?
You continue, "I am not saying she is guilty or innocent but is it worth what it is going to cost to try to prove a point." You don't care if she is guilty or innocent????? I have my answer for that, Claude. I remember my first-grade teacher telling me to quit talking when I wasn't saying a word. I told her I wasn't talking, and that made the situation worse. She ended up having to drag me out from under the table kicking to put me in the corner. I may have gotten a swat, too. Was it worth it for me to stand up for the truth? Hell, yes. I had always been taught to be truthful and take pride in myself, and I had been believed up to that point when I said something. I was not willing to accept a lie to make things easier. I wasn't talking!!! Are we at some point in our lives supposed to decide that the truth doesn't matter and just try to take the easy way out?
You say further, "She's already lost her job, been the subject of public scruteny and ridicule, she's not from Princeton so why stay there. Look at all the future problems it may cause her." I'll bet she could get a WONDERFUL plea bargain offer from the prosecution at this point because they are going to have a major uphill battle trying to get a conviction on charges that took six days' worth of testimony just to get an indictment. And all of that will have to take place in open court, not behind closed doors, undoubtedly with writeups in the newspaper about the testimony.
My bet is that there was never any intention to actually try Abby on these charges. The city and county could hold kangaroo courts and fire her from both jobs on the basis that she had been indicted for two felonies, and the prosecution could move to dismiss the indictments because, with Abby gone and her reputation ruined, along with job opportunities, it would be a moot point.
They obviously have had success with these bullying tactics in the past, so why not now? The reason for "why not now" is the injunction the court has issued against the city and county totally neutralizing their power to do anything to Abby until the criminal charges are resolved. I can imagine the frustation at even the thought of playing on a more level field than they are used.
Another reason for "why not now" is that they have obviously encountered someone who has too much pride in herself to admit to wrongdoing when she is innocent just to take the "easy way out." And, shockingly, they are encountering citizens who are saying "Enough, already," and are ready to make Princeton a decent place to live and not the source of material for future episodes of a sit-com like "The Dukes of Hazzard."
I say "More power to you, Abby and your supporters!!!"
Greetings Holly Tara!!

If you note the location the posting you responded to came

from Benton, Ky.

The same place JKMILLS postings are coming from.

If you read some of JKMILLS postings she brings up the same nonsense

as she did today while using my name.

I can assure you that I did not make the posting to which you

responded.

I have been and continue to be an Abby supporter.

I have contributed to her defense fund.

I have known Janet since 5th grade and last saw her at the

cookout a couple of weeks ago.

BTW, I worked for your grandfather, Mr John Call in the

early 60's at his post mill. He was a fine man.

HAND

CB
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#928 Sep 19, 2012
I love cut and paste.
Holly Tara

Frankfort, KY

#929 Sep 19, 2012
Id Rather Be Fishing wrote:
You implied that Mr. Ovey was in this "witch hunt" for Abby with the "cliche". You might nit be the only sister with a lawsuit to fight.
You need to clean your glasses and read my post again. I am not accusing Ovey of anything. In fact, I expressed my shock that Claude would accuse him. I was merely pointing out that Claude's post implies that HE thinks Ovey is guilty of something.
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#930 Sep 19, 2012
Oops..copy and paste.
Claude Balls

White Plains, KY

#931 Sep 19, 2012
Judged:1
Claude Balls wrote:
<quoted text>

I heard that she was tring to get a warrant to have GL Oveys Hot tub slab of concrete dug up to find a body. Maybe she has found out things that are not wanted told or found out.
I didn't have enough room to discuss this in my former post, and I consider this the most shocking thing you said.

If you really believe that there is a situation in Caldwell County where certain citizens should be allowed to flout the law, what does that say for your character? I infer from what has been posted by others that the concrete you speak of is covering a body. So does that mean someone in the right position could get away with murder in Caldwell County?

And you must think that is okay because you seem to think it is as unhealthy for a police officer to investigate something like this as it is for a toddler to play in the middle of a highway. How can you justify that thinking, Claude? Aren't police officers supposed to uphold the law?

I must say that, with the propensity of at least one person in Caldwell County to file a suit for defamation, some of Abby's detractors seem to be saying things that might get you in hot water. In fact, several of you have said things that are more damning to Rodney and the other members of the clique than any of Abby's supporters have said.

Aside from all of the points you made about it being better to fold ones tent and vanish rather than seek justice in Caldwell, those assertions pale in comparison to this last statement as far as being slanderous. The way I read it, you NAME a person, GL Ovey, and claim you think there is a body under his hot tub. If you don't believe that to be true, why do you think a person could get in trouble for looking into it? So are you saying you believe he is guilty of murder? The commonwealth's attorney who is supposed to prosecute crimes?????

I remember earlier in these posts, one person claimed something to the effect that if Rodney could FIND SOMEONE WHO WOULD TESTIFY that he or she had chosen not to do business with him because of what the women had said, he could get big bucks in his civil suit. I believe most people would be looking for someone who had actually not done business because of what he/she heard. But apparently in Caldwell County all it takes is someone who would testify to it. Doesn't sound good for your side, Claude.

Another person sniggered that, even though Rodney might not prevail in the civil suit, it had certainly shut those women up, which was what he intended all along. Whoa----not a good thing to try to limit people's right of free speech. As I recall, he didn't seem eager to testify that that was the reason for the suit.

So I would say that, generally, with friends like some of you, Rodney and Ovey and other members of the clique don't really need any enemies. You are doing a good job of furnishing damning information about them yourself.

Greetings Holly Tara!!

Again this posting smells of JKMILLS!!

I can assure you that I was out mowing my grass

when these postings were made.

JKMILLs has been ranting about GL Ovey's hottub

and the body buried under it for months.

Methinks she has lost her tinfoil hat which

prevented the aliens from planet Zardoz from

entering her head and making her even more stupid.

HAND

CB
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#932 Sep 19, 2012
Quote...Rodney and Ovey and other members of the cliche...I don't wear glasses, but you might put them on. I saved that post. You want to say otherwise now? Not working!
Holly Tara

Frankfort, KY

#933 Sep 19, 2012
Claude Balls wrote:
<quoted text>
Greetings Holly Tara!!
If you note the location the posting you responded to came
from Benton, Ky.
The same place JKMILLS postings are coming from.
If you read some of JKMILLS postings she brings up the same nonsense
as she did today while using my name.
I can assure you that I did not make the posting to which you
responded.
I have been and continue to be an Abby supporter.
I have contributed to her defense fund.
I have known Janet since 5th grade and last saw her at the
cookout a couple of weeks ago.
BTW, I worked for your grandfather, Mr John Call in the
early 60's at his post mill. He was a fine man.
HAND
CB
Thank you for clearing this up. I apologize for not realizing someone was posting under your name. Obviously I was shocked that anyone would post such a thing.

Thank you for the nice words about my grandfather. As I recall, at about the same time in the early 60s, my father was manager of Pine Lumber Company located near the railroad roundtable. My grandfather had a penta plant that I think was close to Dawson Springs. They shared the same name, so you may have known both of them.

And I am always glad to hear nice things said about my sister. It seems you certainly have known her for a long time.
Anonymous

Bowling Green, KY

#934 Sep 19, 2012
You may be claiming to help out a sister, and that's the only admirable thing I see in you , but if I were her attorney, I'd advise you to keep quiet and find a new hobby! HAND!

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