Magistrate sues four county residents

[Anonymous]

And suddenly some have nothing to say. Was waiting for what I knew to come out. And now what? Maybe the Grand Jury wasn't a bunch of dummies? Ya think??

[Why]

Id Rather Be Fishing wrote:

And suddenly some have nothing to say. Was waiting for what I knew to come out. And now what? Maybe the Grand Jury wasn't a bunch of dummies? Ya think??

More mindless dribble Jk. Once again you make no sense.

[Sir Krannifus]

I never worked at the shelter- and I never claimed Abby to be a perfect, professionally trained judge of character. One if the ladies in question was previously charged with 'cold checks ' before she was hired- the other was never charged with anything before she was hired. Neither of these things would indicate a felonious person to me. Mistakes? Yes. Felonious? No.
One of these ladies was fired by Abby- the other was 'reassigned' by the JE to the Recycling Center after Abby voiced concerns about job performance. These are the facts. If narrow minds want to twist this into a mountain, those are your rights. Think.

[Anonymous]

Lol @ voiced concerns about job performance. Not the way I heardi it, at all.

[just wondering]

Sir Krannifus wrote:

I never worked at the shelter- and I never claimed Abby to be a perfect, professionally trained judge of character. One if the ladies in question was previously charged with 'cold checks ' before she was hired- the other was never charged with anything before she was hired. Neither of these things would indicate a felonious person to me. Mistakes? Yes. Felonious? No.
One of these ladies was fired by Abby- the other was 'reassigned' by the JE to the Recycling Center after Abby voiced concerns about job performance. These are the facts. If narrow minds want to twist this into a mountain, those are your rights. Think.

I think you must be talking about two different ladies.

[Sir Krannifus]

Fishing-then go with your version that you heard. I'm certain it has to be the correct one. Do what makes you feel the best.

[just wondering]

Another Northerner wrote:

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I will admit I know nothing about drugs or growing pot, but I do know that Abby and her mom are not into selling dogs or puppies in any way shape or form! They may have been friends with some of these other shelter people at first, but you will notice that after awhile they always distanced themselves from them. Until you work with them you do not always know what they are all about. When Abby was sending puppies up north they only got enough to cover the vaccinations and dewormings, nothing more. Now the folks getting the puppies were selling/adopting them and making money, but not Abby and her mom. It got the puppies out of the shelter where they were likely to catch something, and put them somewhere that they would survive to be adopted. And sending them north accomplished that. Not a money making scheme but a save the puppy scheme.

I hope you are right. But you have to admit its a pretty good setup. Abby was the Animal Control Officer and her mom was the head of the shelter. Maybe that is why there are nepotism regulations? If they wanted to do something illegal who was going to turn them in? Maybe the person that wanted their jobs? Maybe just maybe Rodney is getting a bad rap. Maybe the person that wanted them out went to Rodney with the information?

Maybe somebody needs to check into the Paypal accounts at the shelter?

[Anonymous]

Kran, you seem to think there is no other version than yours, and that's fine. Others on here are not "biting" that Abby is the angel you portray her to be. As you put it, whatever makes you feel the best.

[Sir Krannifus]

Perhaps it would be beneficial to revisit the facts. I am not portraying any version of Abby, and i dont do conspiracy theories, possibilities,opinions or maybes as i am not a judge- I am only posting FACTS here. All of the facts that I post can easily be verified should someone choose to exude a touch of effort.
Wondering- there is not a PayPal account for the Shelter. The shelter& CCAR are two seperate entities. The PayPal account is in CCAR's name, and it is accessible directly on their website. Any funds that are donated, or acquired by any other fashion, go into this account, controlled by the treasurer. Abby had it written into the by-laws that this account was to be audited once a year directly by the board itself. Again, these are not an opinion, but facts. Everyone here has the opportunity to make up there own minds as to whether or not these bylaws/procedures were established by a person with malicious (on-the-take) intentions.
It also seems worthy of consideration that SURELY after Abby was investigated for months, that every single document /transaction that ever existed for the shelter was surely poured over in an effort to find evidence to present to the Grand Jury. It is, at the very least, plausible to believe that no investigator in the world would leave such stones unturned if investigating the head of the shelter for any sort of wrongdoing. If there is something there, its a sad day for our judicial system, because months of investigative effort, as well as the Grand Jury, missed it.
Just some food for thought, and for objective discussion.

[Another Northerner]

Id Rather Be Fishing wrote:

And suddenly some have nothing to say. Was waiting for what I knew to come out. And now what? Maybe the Grand Jury wasn't a bunch of dummies? Ya think??

You still just don't get it. What needs to come out is that the 2 (or 3)ladies in question here are NOT Abby and her mom! Wake up and smell the roses! If someone should be investigated it is these other 3 ladies that are now blatantly doing wrong. Yes Abby hired them all at one time, but they ALL were let go for wrong doings! Is Abby perfect, I am sure not. But truly if after following her around for almost 2 years, scrutinizing her every move, all they could come up with are these 2 sad little accusations then they were desperate for SOMETHING.

I have several friends that were either told directly by Mr. H or overheard conversations by him, that he would be rid of Abigail Tucker one way or another! So you can go on believing what ever you want, twist the facts to any way you want but there are some of us that know EXACTLY what is going on and that is the truth.

[would like to know]

Why dont you peoplw wake up and see that these 40 pages all stem from Abbby aresting Heatons son Tucker for ilegal hauling equipment you dont arest a Heaton....btw i dont think Rhodney should be driving..he cant see

[Anonymous]

I'm not "twisting" any facts. Simply because I don't know ALL the facts, and neither do you. And those "sad little accusations" as you call it are FELONIES. I would not call that LITTLE. IF convicted she would become what you people are so angry that Rodney is....a FELON. So we wait and see. All this name calling of others may come back to bite ya on the ass.

[really]

Right on

[Why]

Id Rather Be Fishing wrote:

I'm not "twisting" any facts. Simply because I don't know ALL the facts, and neither do you. And those "sad little accusations" as you call it are FELONIES. I would not call that LITTLE. IF convicted she would become what you people are so angry that Rodney is....a FELON. So we wait and see. All this name calling of others may come back to bite ya on the ass.

Geez read back threw your own post you idiot. You are the worst at name calling, making accusations, claiming you know things others dont. Jk you yourself are also a FELON and a topix troll.

[Watchin the croney circus]

Holly Tara wrote:

Does anyone have information on whether Abby's criminal trial has been scheduled and, if so, when?
Also, there are apparently lawyers posting on here or someone who would know this, I believe. In a civil case, when and how does a complaint and answers go before the circuit judge? Motion day? Or does he get the file to review once the complaint and answer have been filed?

Tara, in a civil case, after a complaint is filed, the defendant has 20 days to file answer in which they can admit, deny, and provide affirmative defenses if any. However, if the complaint is poorly drafted, the defendant can file a motion for more definite statement, or they can also file a motion to dismiss. A motion to dismiss can be based on a variety of things. For instance, a motion to dismiss can be based upon lack of jurisdiction, improper venue, insufficiency of process, etc. It can also be based upon the fact plaintiff failed to properly state a cause of action. Example---- plaintiff sues defendant under a theory of negligence. But under the plaintiffs complaint he/she only alleges three of the necessary four elements needed to properly state a cause of action under negligence. Well, then the defendant could then file a motion to dismiss based upon the fact that plaintiff did not properly state a cause of action. Usually, the judge will try to give the plaintiff another chance to file an amended complaint in that instance, but it's not always a guarantee. If a motion for more definite statement is filed, or a motion to dismiss, then the defendant gets a chance at having that go up for a hearing before the judge and have the motion decided before an and has to be filed.....in other words, it stops the 20 day clock. I have seen instances where lawyers file a motion to dismiss simply to have more time to answer the complaint. It should never be done that way because it is rather disingenuous, but I have seen it happen.

Either way, if the defendant files a motion to dismiss, then a motion for hearing has to filed and the motion is heard and decided by the judge. If there are no plans for a motion for more definite statement or a motion to dimiss, then the defendant must file the answer within 20 days, and the case proceeds with discovery, etc all the way to trial.

There are a few things that could happen along the way to "end" the case. After the pleadings are closed, a party could file for a motion for judgment on the pleadings and end the case that way. A motion for judgment on the pleadings is only done when there are no factual questions in play....it is resolved purely based upon the content of the pleadings. A motion for summary judgement could happen also, but that takes into consideration things related to discovery i.e. Depositions, answers to interrogatories, etc., and says that there are no issues of fact, that the facts are settled and that the moving party is entitled to judgement as a matter of law. In other words, "even if everything you say is true, the law says I win". Hope this helps.

Also, it could be different in KY, but usually pretrial conferences in a civil case are always held in judges chambers, and they do not happen until way later in the case.

[wondering]

perhaps people should look up the definition of the word "felony" in the state of Kentucky.

[Sir Krannifus]

Watching- good information. Thank you for taking the time to post.

[just wondering]

Another Northerner wrote:

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You still just don't get it. What needs to come out is that the 2 (or 3)ladies in question here are NOT Abby and her mom! Wake up and smell the roses! If someone should be investigated it is these other 3 ladies that are now blatantly doing wrong. Yes Abby hired them all at one time, but they ALL were let go for wrong doings! Is Abby perfect, I am sure not. But truly if after following her around for almost 2 years, scrutinizing her every move, all they could come up with are these 2 sad little accusations then they were desperate for SOMETHING.
I have several friends that were either told directly by Mr. H or overheard conversations by him, that he would be rid of Abigail Tucker one way or another! So you can go on believing what ever you want, twist the facts to any way you want but there are some of us that know EXACTLY what is going on and that is the truth.

See that was what was so great with their scheme. If you were not on the inside you don't know how it is done and it looks EXACTLY like a legitimate business. Pull the names of the donators and compare them to the names of the people who are rescuing the animals. Then pull the list of animals that have been spay or neutered by ccar and see where that money came from and where those spay and neutered animals were going to. Rescue A pays for a spay or neuter for rescue B and so on and so on.

And just where did Caldwell county get all of there animals from? If you think they were all being picked up in Caldwell County you are wrong. Try Webster County, Hopkins Co, and others. At what expense was that to the taxpayers of Caldwell County. Just because all they found on Abby was two little felonies don't be mistake that was all that was going on. I'm sure they figured that would be enough.

[Anonymous]

Why...I'm going to address you one last time, mostly to correct your English...idiot. It's "through" ...not "threw"! And Im not Judy Mills. It's clear how much you miss her. I hope she's well, I kinda got a chuckle from her posts occassionally....unlike yours.

[just thinking]

Why is that nobody can explain why the employee in the courthouse who was found to have made illegal charges and purchases did not have any charges brought against them. Unless proves otherwise I will accept the explaination listed earlier on this subject that the reason has to be the connection between said employee, certain magistrate and certain prosecutor with the approval of elected officials. This must be the underlying reason some are invertigated and charged or asked to resign and others are given a free pass to continue doing what they do.