Prisoner transferred to Canadian facility

[from ft kent]

Yes Marie my spelling aint so good. But i do speek true. You say "Not exactly a park-like setting for a stroll on a sunny day" Me thinks you have never stepped foot in "the valley" let alone "the county" Damn,the whole county is a picture post card year round. And september is the BEST month of the year ta "hang out at the river"What i am saying is "your full of crap,so shut up"

[marie]

My,my, temper little one. I must have hit a nerve on that one. Actually, it has been several years since my last visit to the valley, although please forgive me for assuming not much has changed. I would assume IF you were to go for a stroll down by the river, in September, it would be with a friend, by yourself for a few quiet momemts perhaps, or with a "lover". Seeing as Mr. Michaud and Mr. Macki were wanting the same girl, I don''t believe they would fit into any of these categories, do you?

[from ft kent]

My point is black n white- manslaughter. Whats your point? Take off your rose colored glasses and you will see the world aint that rosey.They were kids. Kids do dumb things. Two young studs buttin heads over a girl.Yes it went to far and a young man lost his life. Sin-loy.{sorry bout that}. Things happen.I know that if you were on the jury it would a been differnt,but you were not. By the way,that young man was tried by a jury not of his country. They said manslaughter and thats that.Done deal.You can not change it.

[SUZIE FROM FORT KENT]

ISN'T IT IRONIC THAT DEAN MICHAUD HAS A BROTHER WHO IS A LAWYER IN OTTAWA, THE SAME PLACE THAT "JAMES" IS FROM? COULD IT BE...WONDERING MINDS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

[Dave]

SUZIE FROM FORT KENT wrote:

ISN'T IT IRONIC THAT DEAN MICHAUD HAS A BROTHER WHO IS A LAWYER IN OTTAWA, THE SAME PLACE THAT "JAMES" IS FROM? COULD IT BE...WONDERING MINDS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

I was also wondering the same thing a few weeks back. Especially since James plagiarized someone else's quote from a different forum. There's also a different version of the tragedy in Ottawa too. More of one punch street fight, that turned bad. I guess that's the story you tell when your trying to get a job in Parliament with a Senator. Also a couple weeks back Dean Michaud in a French Canadian newspaper was quoted as saying that he blacked out after he was hit in the head by Maki only to wake up later next to Maki's lifeless body. Even after 10 years if Dean was so remorseful and this was but a dumb accident, why the additional lies and why does Dean refuse not to participate in anger management sessions? His excuse is that he already completed the course in prison, but you'd think a person would make some type of explicit effort.

I realize, at some point to heal you have to "let God and let go" as previously quoted. Maybe that time has come. Nothing else can be said or done to change what has happened 10 years ago.

[SUZIE FROM FORT KENT]

WELL SAID, I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF. I THINK THIS WHOLE SITUATION HAS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND, AND IT'S MORE OF A VERBAL SLASHING RIGHT NOW THAN ANYTHING ELSE, AND TO SEE WHO GETS THE LAST WORD. MAY GOD HELP ALL THE FAMILIES INVLOVED IN THIS TRAGEDY, AND MAY EVERYONE HAVE THE STRENGTH TO MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIVES. LIVE FOR THE FUTURE AND NOT THE PAST. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE THE PAST. BUT WE CAN BETTER THE FUTURE.

[from ft kent]

yep...

[Otoh Charachat]

up^

[Cassy]

Dave wrote:

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Rosemarie, I'm deeply sorry for your pain and sickened to read that justice could not be served. I pray for you and your family.

Rosemarie, I too am deeply sorry for your pain. I knew your son and he was a nice, sweet young man. Mr. Michaud should have been sentenced life imprisonment or even the death penalty. Again, I am truly sorry for your pain. You will be forever in my prayers.

[Gary]

Dean is just a liar. His whole is one lie after another. He killed my son and my family as well.He will never never be aslong as he continues to lie.Somethings like losing your son you never get over.As hard as it is life goes on.By the way Mr. Michaud has never expressed ANY remorse.If he did he would only be telling another lie anyway. I'm Tom's father.

[Mikayla Michaud]

Rosemarie,
I heard of your son's death in school and was completely in awe towards the fact that Michaud was convicted of manslaughter and not first degree murder. I wanted to tell you that I am so sorry that you were put through this and I think that this sick man should not have gotten out of jail.

[Glaxo]

This is not in defense of Michaud.

When Michaud was returned did the press attend his arrival - how did the victim's family know about it. Did the Michaud family send photos to the victim's family.
People can look for every reason under the sun to punish or hate Michaud. I can imagine that there is little peace for his family.
But, the family of Michaud have a son too and have suffered because of his offending. They did nothing but loose sleep worrying that something would happen to him in prison, maybe they had to scrounge up his legal fees, maybe they have had to be interviewed by correctional people on his behalf, maybe they can never see him as the little boy they once knew,maybe they have felt shame and maybe they did grieve for the victim and his family as one parent to another. It would be inappropriate for them to approach the victim's family.Maybe they have had as much suffering as they can bear.
No one has property rights on suffering and I think it is insensitive to take a poke at this family. If you must hate the boy that is your choice but hate becomes a choice.
When it starts to flow over to a community, every court, every day, every way it changes to a sickness. Those who support the victim's family should take them the odd pre-made meal because they are still having a hard time, invite them for a BBQ, invite them to the cottage make some happy low key memories with them not stir the pot.
Both sets of parents have suffered.

Marie wrote:

Dave, I absolutely agree with you. I also wondered why 40 or so family members went to meet him upon his arrival in Edmunston, N.B. Ok, so he is part of their family. How about a low key luncheon back at their home to welcome him back, but why such a public display. Too bad the Maki family will never get the chance to welcome their beloved son home. I wonder if any of those 40 family members of Mr. Michaud ever thought of that young man that day.

[wingsdofly]

HI! I have to say this, THIS is a first for me to post anything online this way! I was reading the info and articles tonight as I have found out some disturbing news a few hrs ago and did not know how to take it! After seeing this last post which i thought was at least more reasonable and actually put real thought and feeling into it,out of all the posts i have read so far. I thank you!
(whether you want it or not lol)
I was dating a guy for 2 months who i thought was great but was hiding something from me,catching little lies here and there, but that is another story! When things turned a certain way I found out by Dean Michaud who he really was. I will honestly say i don't know what to think about the situation. I am not with him for other reasons but this i have to comment on, as people are always ready to burn people at the stake like they did way back when and we don't know the whole story! Yes, this was a tragic incident. My heart goes out for the family that lost a son! Nothing can replace that feeling! I can only imagine from the lost i have felt with love ones. Who knows what happened that fateful night, except two boys (yes boys, 18 yrs old!), they were in what, first and second year uni and first time away from home, fighting over a crazy relationship what they thought was love!!! No excuses- but boys, going to a beach hangout and fighting happens, that is what they do - they do not go to public places where police will be called in a second) I am in my mid thirties and have seen fights when i was younger and older, where i do NOT BELIEVE any are called for, or give any excuses that they are ok, but have seen people go too far when rage and alcohol are involved. Both families lost their sons whether you want to believe it or not. One was lost at 20 but one was lost at 18 because of his actions, and not because he took a knife or gun which we see today when one is out for real revenge!(i think people forgot how to fight because of the gangs etc!) THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS NOW THAT DEAN IS OUT?? Does he work on the remorse, guilt and consequence of what has happened? Does he begin to be truthful in his life (in every way)and make something out of it and not let the past make him into the person he could be. Will he be the adult and man he CAN BE and not the 18 year old that went to prison?? Is that not what will make the life of Thomas Maki a little bit more memorable and the parents more at peace. Both sets of parents??

[Gary]

Well its that time of year.13 Years still not a word of remorse,or truth from Dean Michaud.He's out living his life with all it's hopes and dreams. While a father wonders what if? Mr Michaud may never really be a man untill he faces the truth from his past. Tom Maki's dad

[Glaxo]

I don't expect you to feel anyway other than what you state. I cannot image loosing one of my sons to crime or to an act that took a bit of booze, a bit of jealousy and some anger. It does indeed seem senseless.

The justice system is not a charitable, god driven organization. It is one based on the laws of man and how it is applied. It is an adversarial system.

Michaud, who I have no personal knowledge of, hires a lawyer and a lawyer has to represent him because, in law, even if he is guilty ( and he is not required to say he is )he is due fair representation. It is his lawyer's job to get him the best deal.

That is what a very scared man walked into when he was arrested. He was confronted with having to save his own life in a sense. It is very common for offenders to go into a state of depression following these types of offenses. A different, but as real response is to be cool about it, to not show emotion. This type of response, they believe, makes them less approachable to others who might want to get even or try them out.

He hasn't lived a real life in these thirteen years. I am not saying that he has not felt as if days were normal. They became normal to him.

These last years have been about a man ( young in this case ) living in an artificial society with artificial characters based on some semblance of a reality that he was aware of long ago.

Sir, I don't know if he has experienced remorse or faced the truth as you believe it to be. Having emotions requires courage and it is easier not to go there when damnation and rejection may be all that waits at the end of the tunnel.

I don't know and,respectfully, neither do you. I don't know if he will 'turn his life around'. He had no real adult life before he went in - what did he believe life outside was about through all of those years of incarceration. It is normally a time where change from boy to man takes place. How he can gauge what he should be feeling after hearing about crime, violence and despair for all those years.

I am not saying that you need to feel sorry for him. I am saying that his family does. If he is just rejected by those who care and might be able to reach him isn't it truly just a wasted effort. Maybe that is the one glimmer of hope.

I am sure that nothing will fill the gap that your own son's death has left. Bless him, just a boy really in the wrong place at the wrong time. From the responses on the board it seems as if he was much loved. It sounds as if he would have had the strength to do what has been passed to you which is to move on and live every day in his honour for the rest of the family. Celebrate everyone's birthday and personal events and bring your son to the celebration. Bring the joker back to the table through his dad where he got it from in the first place.Let his spirit soar.

It is not important what Michaud thinks or does to anyone except the authorities now. Place it there and walk away if it re-ignites the pain. It isn't unwise to step back from a burning fire.

I wish you peace because it is time for that for you and yours.

Gary wrote:

Well its that time of year.13 Years still not a word of remorse,or truth from Dean Michaud.He's out living his life with all it's hopes and dreams. While a father wonders what if? Mr Michaud may never really be a man untill he faces the truth from his past. Tom Maki's dad