Jodi Arias claims self-defense as murder trial begins

Jan 2, 2013 Full story: KTVK Phoenix 7,233

A defense attorney says an Arizona woman charged with stabbing and shooting her boyfriend to death in 2008 acted in self-defense because he was violent and abusive.

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Elise

Honolulu, HI

#22 Jan 13, 2013
And take note for your future intelligent posts- its big leagues NOT big leaque's!
Elise

Honolulu, HI

#23 Jan 13, 2013
As for the shirt, if someone could find and contact the company who made it I would guarantee that SHE had the shirt made...not Travis!
LA Guy

Los Angeles, CA

#24 Jan 13, 2013
Elise wrote:
First, LA guy, I seriously lol when I read "I'm in the big leagues here in LA"! This is no longer educated banter. Now I just think you're a dumbass trying to feel big over the Internet. So, if you want to go there...what makes you assume I'm not? You're ignorance just showed. I'm in Palm Springs now but born and raised in LA. And if you truly were/are one of the big dogs, then we've probably met. But judging from your posts about this case...I doubt it! Sarah is right about there being something seriously off with you. You will see in the end that she will be convicted and then realize your "opinion" is lacking common sense and your personality could use a little fine tuning also :)
Doubt if we met, you sound like an old Yenta senior citizen, now in one of those desert old folks resorts...Born and raised in LA means nothing, would have had to have had a med/legal or perhaps even a journalism background and then within the purview or a nexis to the juris prudence field, to even start to understand this. Hey, being in the Industry (LOL) particularly does not count, nor being a widow of a Bernie who thought they were someone count.

Nor does a westside zip code mean anyything. You got out on a limb in your post and fell on your head, lol

OK, here's your chance, give me a brief resume and include one little tidbit known to insiders in a particular field.

You have shown some basic insight into Jody's personality, albiet lacking sophistication and mouthing the obvious. Parts have been crude and ladden with cliches about attractive women manipulating guys and guys wanting sex.

mstamika3

Phoenix, AZ

#25 Jan 13, 2013
Wow, why do all you hillbillies care about this case?

LA Guy, you sound like a guy living in a crappy apartment in Van Nuys. How's that call center job going? Or wait, I'm betting it's a job answering calls in a Van Nuys warehouse.

You sure are "big time."
sarah

Freehold, NJ

#26 Jan 13, 2013
La Guy- Something is wrong with you.Do you realise what a foolish small man you sound like-I'm embarrassed for you.I'm in the big leagues....ugg... Glad you mentioned OJ because the throat slashing the victim suffered at the hands of this savage killer is almost exactly the same slaughter ripping Nicole Brown suffered at the hands of her killer. OJ was obsessed with and stalked incessantly his ex wife, Ms.Brown after she REJECTED and SPURNED him. Does this sound familiar? What in the heck makes you think Travis indoctrinated her in ANYTHING? They met in Las Vegas and for 5 minutes Travis was crazy about her, but very quickly he felt that EVERYTHING was WRONG about her.She NEVER was his live in GF. She was totally OBSESSED with him-do you know what happens to a person when they are in the throws of obsession?let alone a person whome already has very distubing psychopathic behavior?She lived,breathed,slept her victim,Travis. Now who do you think really would create a t-shirt that reads Travis Alexanders? This is something SHE did- SHE made that t-shirt because she WANTED him to WANT her!He was telling her it was OVER- finally even ending 'the friends with benefits thing'. All she had left was the sex-but even that was starting to back fire on her.Watch the trial- this is a woman about POWER.She was the aggressor sexually. She stalked him for a long time and planned his brutal murder when he REJECTED her. It was OVER.The title PICTURE PERFECT is a book on this crime that will be out after the jury disposes of this savage. I don't recall the authors name- one of many true crime writers covering this case. I saw 112 photos on the Huffington Post. I can not believe the condition she left him in- horrifying-
sarah

Freehold, NJ

#27 Jan 13, 2013
It is not BS the info about the photo of KY- all of those sex photos that were taken just prior to the murder are in evidense.I have not seen them, I guess those pics will be in the true crime accounts that come out after the trial raps up.The anal sex and the use of KY by the killer schooling her victim was discussed on Nancy Grace. I was not surprised, Travis was NOT sexually experienced but his killer was.
Elise

Honolulu, HI

#28 Jan 13, 2013
LA Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Doubt if we met, you sound like an old Yenta senior citizen, now in one of those desert old folks resorts...Born and raised in LA means nothing, would have had to have had a med/legal or perhaps even a journalism background and then within the purview or a nexis to the juris prudence field, to even start to understand this. Hey, being in the Industry (LOL) particularly does not count, nor being a widow of a Bernie who thought they were someone count.
Nor does a westside zip code mean anyything. You got out on a limb in your post and fell on your head, lol
OK, here's your chance, give me a brief resume and include one little tidbit known to insiders in a particular field.
You have shown some basic insight into Jody's personality, albiet lacking sophistication and mouthing the obvious. Parts have been crude and ladden with cliches about attractive women manipulating guys and guys wanting sex.
That one made me lol even harder than the first one. EverythIng you assumed about me is hilarious. Unlike you, I'm not here to prove who I am or what I do. In fact, if I started spouting my resume off and who I associate with I would feel like an asshole! I came here to talk about this case because at the end of the day, it's still quite fascinating. I used cliches? What was crude? Attractive women can manipulate men and men always want sex!!! Thats just true! My crossfit coach works for Prepaid Legal Svc, now called LegalShield, in palm Desert where Jodi worked and was living when she dated Travis so I asked her tonight if she had ever met her. She said no but she DID know Travis because she had worked a couple seminars with him. Her exact words were "Everyone's (meaning Legalshield people) pissed because they all loved him!" I think he probably was a really great guy and that's why she was so obsessed with him. He was also a little naive and I guarantee she had some major disfunction in her upbringing which will all come out at some point!
LA Guy

Los Angeles, CA

#29 Jan 14, 2013
Elise wrote:
<quoted text>
That one made me lol even harder than the first one. EverythIng you assumed about me is hilarious. Unlike you, I'm not here to prove who I am or what I do. In fact, if I started spouting my resume off and who I associate with I would feel like an asshole! I came here to talk about this case because at the end of the day, it's still quite fascinating. I used cliches? What was crude? Attractive women can manipulate men and men always want sex!!! Thats just true! My crossfit coach works for Prepaid Legal Svc, now called LegalShield, in palm Desert where Jodi worked and was living when she dated Travis so I asked her tonight if she had ever met her. She said no but she DID know Travis because she had worked a couple seminars with him. Her exact words were "Everyone's (meaning Legalshield people) pissed because they all loved him!" I think he probably was a really great guy and that's why she was so obsessed with him. He was also a little naive and I guarantee she had some major disfunction in her upbringing which will all come out at some point!
Showed your weak hand, with the "who I associated with"

As to Legal Shield, it's a multi marketing crowd, drawing in many well meaning people (like Amway, Mary K), but a hustle selling a near useless service. The typical profile of those like Travis in the upper levels are akin to closers at car dealers or time share sales managers. So, of course, Travis fit in and was adored.

FYI - I never predicted that Jody would not be convicted, perhaps even of 1st degree homicide. She has been overcharged, this is an involuntary or at worst a voluntary manslaughter case.

Jody is misunderstood and has been unjustly demonized, in part due to the brutality of her attack and Travis clean image. This guy was playing the Dom Svengali mind control/sexual dominatioin role with Jody. Her defense will more than likely bring these factors to light, in addition to diminished capacity and self defense.
LA Guy

Los Angeles, CA

#30 Jan 14, 2013
FYI - In cases of crimes (homicides) of passion involving lovers, brutal slashing attacks are not that uncommon.
LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#31 Jan 14, 2013
mstamika3 wrote:
Wow, why do all you hillbillies care about this case?
LA Guy, you sound like a guy living in a crappy apartment in Van Nuys. How's that call center job going? Or wait, I'm betting it's a job answering calls in a Van Nuys warehouse.
You sure are "big time."
Tamika, since u axed, i will fill you in on IP location in many instances showing a few miles off, or in ur case about 300 hundred miles off from LV, as in Compton. I'm in Studio City, up in the Hills, looking down on VN. Not to be confused with Baldwin Hills, girl. Your Bro, Michael Jackson, was stayin in Encino, down the road from Studio City....LOL

Elise, knows about Studio City.
LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#32 Jan 14, 2013
wow, my server has be back in Los Angeles, still sitting in my place, overlooking the Valley..heading out soon over the hill to my office in Century City
LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#33 Jan 14, 2013
sarah wrote:
It is not BS the info about the photo of KY- all of those sex photos that were taken just prior to the murder are in evidense.I have not seen them, I guess those pics will be in the true crime accounts that come out after the trial raps up.The anal sex and the use of KY by the killer schooling her victim was discussed on Nancy Grace. I was not surprised, Travis was NOT sexually experienced but his killer was.
Hello from LA - Find your posts interesting and informative, particularly these last two. I beleivd that some facts are being mixed with a lot of fiction in this case. No dirt on Jody's past, previous history of stalking, as yet. There is also a racial subtext, albiet minimal, since Jody is the demure (yet smoldering) Latina and Travis is the clean cut white Morman youngman. They were both in over their heads.

Can you rethink this case as voluntary manslaughter (homicide), still a very serious crime with a potential of a long sentence, since a firearm was used. Try to get beyond the premeditation, which is an element of 1st degree murder, as it is not uncommon for battered women to pre arm themselves. In LA or NY, this case would be plea bargained down to Manslaughter, and perhaps a cap of less than ten years.
mstamika3

Phoenix, AZ

#34 Jan 14, 2013
LA Guy, I don't buy that you live in Studio City.

Much more likely that you live in a turd of an apartment on Victory, picking up your government check each week and heading down to the local library every day to waste time posting on Topix about a stupid murder case.

The only time you spend in Century City is walking the streets shaking a cup of nickels asking for spare change.

Got to make enough for a cheeseburger at Carls Jr. and for bus fare back to the Red Line.
Elise

Honolulu, HI

#35 Jan 14, 2013
Actually, PVE to be exact, not Studio City. If convincing yourself that I am elderly or from the slums makes you feel like a bigger man, go for it. You do what ever it takes :) Anyway, I do also have a home in Rancho MIrage (Palm Springs) and today was a fascinating day for me. I agree LegalShield is mostly a ripoff scheme. My friends tried to get me to buy into it a couple times but I declined. They come at you like used car salesmen! After finding out my coach knew Travis, I linked up and found I have a few common friends with Travis.!! I am just fascinated with the true stories. If you watched Dr. Drew tonight, you would have heard her former coworker at Bing Crosby's say how Jodi was a horrible server because she couldn't connect with people and had a flat affect and after she offered to watch a coworkers cat while he went on vacation she KILLED it!! She came out in "confidence" to a fellow employee and said she locked it in a dark closet with no food or water and then forgot about it. Truth is she waited to see how long it would take for it to die.....just to do it! You still don't think she's a psycho? Crimes of passion are not premeditated and plotted out for a long period of time. First degree all the way!
LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#36 Jan 14, 2013
Hi Elise, small world, i attended Malaga Cove Inermediate in PV Estates. Unless PVE, is some other code.

Thank's for the update on Jody, as more info is coming out. I will try to cath Dr Drew later on tonight. I posted earlier as to something uncanny I detected in Dr Drew. He holds a attraction to Jody, I saw it in him on several occasions.

I would give little credence to the negative anecdotes coming from former female co-employees. Jody has always been the girl other women love to hate, even from her early teen age years.

This was a Dom/Sub relationship, the usual BDSM erotic games. Travis tying her up, spanking her, verbal humiliation, claiming her as property. It may not bode well for the prosecution and I predict a mistrial. More evidence today of him tying her with up with a rope. In addition to testimony from the oead detective as to the text message of Travis refering to her as a slut and whore.
LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#37 Jan 14, 2013
continued:

Many defense attorneys feel that this case is overcharged. Jody in part, brought this on herself, with her continued change of stories and her statement that no jury would convict her. Nevertheless, after one or more hung juries, a plea to a lesser charge, time served, would be appropriate. I have previously mentioned, that in himicides involving lovers, it is not uncommon for severe multiple wounds.

I have dated women who asked me to dominate them and they really got off on it. Even was invited to a few BDSM parties in LA, sponsored by a Club called Threshold. It was an erotic scene, but I recognized it as fraught with dangerous consequences.

So, Elise, you are ok with me, hope you feel the same and looking forward to further discussion of this case as it unfolds.



LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#38 Jan 14, 2013
mstamika3 wrote:
LA Guy, I don't buy that you live in Studio City.
Much more likely that you live in a turd of an apartment on Victory, picking up your government check each week and heading down to the local library every day to waste time posting on Topix about a stupid murder case.
The only time you spend in Century City is walking the streets shaking a cup of nickels asking for spare change.
Got to make enough for a cheeseburger at Carls Jr. and for bus fare back to the Red Line.
Wow, Ms Tamika, u sure know about the cheapest Valley Apts, right down to the particular street...FYI, only Mesicans living in thems...Also the Red Line, is that what they call it

Ms Tamika, you are even now tryin to talk white... u r childish, but old, nickels in a cup and cheeseburgers at Carl's Jr, lol, u r funny...girl, what type of time warp r u in..u r making Sistas look bad
Elise

Honolulu, HI

#39 Jan 15, 2013
I suppose as the girl in this convo, I am quick to blame Jodi! Men are buying into her crap but women see right through it! We will have to agree to disagree on who was the aggressor when it came to the Dom. I think it was definitely her. I think he thought he was a "player" but she was way more sexually advanced and experienced than he was and I think she taught him a few things. Most men wouldn't mind being a human dildo! Makes me think she's had some sort of childhood abuse leading to her deviant behavior.
I did pick up on the strange attraction Dr Drew seems to have. But that is her poison now isn't it? Hope there isn't a male juror that is going to be hypnotized! That's what she's betting on.
LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#40 Jan 15, 2013
Elise wrote:
I suppose as the girl in this convo, I am quick to blame Jodi! Men are buying into her crap but women see right through it! We will have to agree to disagree on who was the aggressor when it came to the Dom. I think it was definitely her. I think he thought he was a "player" but she was way more sexually advanced and experienced than he was and I think she taught him a few things. Most men wouldn't mind being a human dildo! Makes me think she's had some sort of childhood abuse leading to her deviant behavior.
I did pick up on the strange attraction Dr Drew seems to have. But that is her poison now isn't it? Hope there isn't a male juror that is going to be hypnotized! That's what she's betting on.
Great insight, Elise, enjoyed your take on it. Yes, he did perceive himself as the Player in his small world and he was on a role. Just saw a pic streaming of both of them together in formal, but awkward attire. He was in a perceived power suit, dark pinstripped with bow tie, along the lines of a barrister in court. It was ill fitting, cheap and he did not pull it off. What a smug arrogant pose. They both looked like co-conspirators.
Interesting that you picked up on Dr Drew's eyes glazing over and the cadence he fell into. I thought that I was the only one who picked upn it. Geraldo is also becoming a follower, although both are trying to mask it.
Oh, she no doubt was the seductress and they were both wired into the kink. He was a good looking confident white male. Perhaps even the Top Dog, as he went by. The well endowed stud who just natureally was dominate. Jody, the demure, but smoldering seductress.
My first encounters were with women who asked me to dominate them.
I went along with it, for the erotic sex and adventure. As to the text messages where he was calling her a slut, whore, etc. Reminds me of a few former GF's who liked to be verbaly debased and asked for more of it. Yes, even provided free maid service, everything I wanted, even washed my car. One even liked me to refer to her as my furniture;
LA Guy

North Hollywood, CA

#41 Jan 15, 2013
The prosecutions case is winding down and in the boring phase. All know she brutally killed him at this point.

Just wait for the defense witnesses. Travis will be cast as the devil. Expert witnesses testifying on behalf of Jody could have a stong impact swaying one or more of the jurors. Jody's continued crying and posture, will more than likelihood be viewed as remorse and pain for somehing she was not predisposed to do. A strong likelihood she will take the stand, which few defendants actualy do and usally contrary to their lawyers advice. One or more jurors is all that is needed for mistrial (hung jury).

Jody was no angel, but Travis scramblem her brain. I believe that his abuse of her will be established.

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