powhatan shooting range - wtvr

There are 20 comments on the May 24, 2010, WTVR story titled powhatan shooting range - wtvr. In it, WTVR reports that:

A shooting range complex for state troopers, federal agents and game wardens is getting fired upon by Powhatan County residents who say the range will wound their property values and all but kill the peace and quiet that brought them to the area.

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Since: Feb 10

Richmond, VA

#1 May 24, 2010
These people don't mind living next to convicted murderers, rapists, burglars, car thieves and child molesters, but have a problem with a firearms training range for the state police?

That is nuts, plain and simple.
Aaron

Hopewell, VA

#2 May 25, 2010
va_tazdad wrote:
These people don't mind living next to convicted murderers, rapists, burglars, car thieves and child molesters, but have a problem with a firearms training range for the state police?
That is nuts, plain and simple.
Also... No one seems to want something like this near them so we should just not build it? No because people know it is needed but they want it near someone else. What the VSP and FBI need to do is tell these people if you find me a better location without any objections at all from people then we will build a range there.
Jason

Richmond, VA

#3 May 25, 2010
Here we go throwing the fact that a historical landmark is too close to something people are opposed to being built. I've got news for you.....this is Virginia and there is something historical everywhere you go!!! This is something that the police need, on land they already have which makes good fiscal sense considering the current economy. A select few are going to whine and cry until this costs taxpayers 10 times what the original cost would be to pay for studies, hearings, and whatever other legal hoops have to be jumped through to start on this project. Quit your crying!!!!!
Virginian

Lewisport, KY

#4 May 25, 2010
This is another case where someone comes to an area and buys a lot and wants to control everything within 10 miles of their 2 acre "estate". The only way to control what someone does with a peice of property is to own it yourself. I'm sure they will only be firing weapons during the daytime when everyone should be at work anyway. I don't see how this could bother anyone except people sitting around the house all day looking for something to complain about.
not a teahead

Richmond, VA

#5 May 25, 2010
Aaron wrote:
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Also... No one seems to want something like this near them so we should just not build it? No because people know it is needed but they want it near someone else. What the VSP and FBI need to do is tell these people if you find me a better location without any objections at all from people then we will build a range there.
At a time like this in our economy, lets put this on hold. More spending is not needed at this time. THere are many other needed projects to be concerned with.
not a teahead

Richmond, VA

#6 May 25, 2010
Virginian wrote:
This is another case where someone comes to an area and buys a lot and wants to control everything within 10 miles of their 2 acre "estate". The only way to control what someone does with a peice of property is to own it yourself. I'm sure they will only be firing weapons during the daytime when everyone should be at work anyway. I don't see how this could bother anyone except people sitting around the house all day looking for something to complain about.
Then the only alternative is to build it in your backyard, how bout that!!!!!!!!!!
Real Change

United States

#7 May 25, 2010
NIMBY again. It is not suitable anywhere. Life must go on and it will be built. Just ask the farmers who got roads placed in the middle of their farms 50 to 75 years ago. The state will do as it pleases and always has. The land is owned and they need to train. So what is the resolution? The shooting range will happen. Law enforcement has to train their people to shoot. They want to protect and serve us. Its what we pay them to do.
Mad Molly

Richmond, VA

#8 May 25, 2010
Hey,this is a very rural area. Does no one hunt in this area? Yea right. I bet the people that are complaining, hunt most of the year. But that is different. It is what they want. Get a life.
Joe C

Chester, VA

#9 May 25, 2010
Why isnt there a comment section on the UR baseball players ,,,does wtvr not wnat bad comments about them?

“Common sense aint that common.”

Since: Jan 10

Richmond, VA

#10 May 26, 2010
Mad Molly wrote:
Hey,this is a very rural area. Does no one hunt in this area? Yea right. I bet the people that are complaining, hunt most of the year. But that is different. It is what they want. Get a life.
It's not as rural as you think it is. In that area, there are several neighborhoods and residential areas. There's not as much room for something like this in Powhatan anymore, not the way it's been progressively populating over the last 10 years. I'm assuming it's an ideal spot because it's close to interstates, but somewhere a bit more rural may be in order. Maybe even a 150 acre land plot for them to do what they want, perhaps out in King William or somewhere less populated. Powhatan isn't "the sticks" anymore, it's like Midlothian was 25 years ago.
Big D

King And Queen Court House, VA

#11 May 26, 2010
I bet if they are in a hostage situation,they would hope the officers aim was right on and that my friend comes from practice.
Big Red

Chester, VA

#12 May 26, 2010
This area in Powhatan is very rural. It is not readily available to any interstate. Their is only a few homes in this area affected by the range. It appears the State Police and Corrections Dept considered this when they located a place for its location.

Seems like you would not want the range in the center of the corrections complex or near the the prisons where trustees are working. That's why they probably placed it on the outter ring of the property. With it being located on the otter ring of the property the Dept of Corrections does not need to worry about vehicles traveling through the property in order to maintain security of the property.

I do feel for those that will have noise increases from the range, but when you buy a house near state property you must assume the worst in what may be built there one day. The few home owners there are upset because they thought nothing would ever would be built there and probably considered the land an extension of their own. Any of us who buy property near an undeveloped piece of property should understand that something could and may be built there that we don't like.

This range is needed to properly train the people that protect us.

As for the County not knowing about the range that is false. I read an article today that they were informed of the construction and that all the details were before the house appropriation in the Senate with no opposition. If the citizens or County had a problem with it, they should have voiced their concerns in 2008 when first notified or last year when it was proposed in the Senate.

They county says the email was insufficient. Sounds like to me they are backtracking and just trying to please those that are complaining. They need to stand up and say they knew it was coming and did not see a problem with it at the time. Obvious politicians trying to make people believe things that aren't always true.

Sorry to those affected, but I believe the location is a good area even though it adversely affects those residents.

“Common sense aint that common.”

Since: Jan 10

Richmond, VA

#13 May 27, 2010
Big Red wrote:
This area in Powhatan is very rural. It is not readily available to any interstate. Their is only a few homes in this area affected by the range. It appears the State Police and Corrections Dept considered this when they located a place for its location.
Seems like you would not want the range in the center of the corrections complex or near the the prisons where trustees are working. That's why they probably placed it on the outter ring of the property. With it being located on the otter ring of the property the Dept of Corrections does not need to worry about vehicles traveling through the property in order to maintain security of the property.
I do feel for those that will have noise increases from the range, but when you buy a house near state property you must assume the worst in what may be built there one day. The few home owners there are upset because they thought nothing would ever would be built there and probably considered the land an extension of their own. Any of us who buy property near an undeveloped piece of property should understand that something could and may be built there that we don't like.
This range is needed to properly train the people that protect us.
As for the County not knowing about the range that is false. I read an article today that they were informed of the construction and that all the details were before the house appropriation in the Senate with no opposition. If the citizens or County had a problem with it, they should have voiced their concerns in 2008 when first notified or last year when it was proposed in the Senate.
They county says the email was insufficient. Sounds like to me they are backtracking and just trying to please those that are complaining. They need to stand up and say they knew it was coming and did not see a problem with it at the time. Obvious politicians trying to make people believe things that aren't always true.
Sorry to those affected, but I believe the location is a good area even though it adversely affects those residents.
Good points. Thank you for all the additional information.
powhatan girl

Glen Allen, VA

#14 May 27, 2010
"These people don't mind living next to convicted murderers, rapists, burglars, car thieves and child molesters, but have a problem with a firearms training range for the state police?"

The criminals are behind bars and wire. And they are quiet. The issue here is the underhanded - or should that be high-handed - way that the State (Police, Corrections, et al) have handled this whole thing? As far as I am concerned, they shd build the shooting range next to the WalMart - if we are doomed to have both of those entities built in our fine county. And BTW,'Virginian' I don't think there is anyone in the immediate area on 2 acres - and many have lived here for a number of years. Not saying that the state does not have a 'right' to develop their land as they deem appropriate, but geez we are still their neighbors and they could have kept their agreement to keep the County - and ORT residents- apprised of their plans. So far, they have wasted (likely) thousands of your tax-payer dollars since they bulldozed and then had to go back and fill in the holes. Come on - can we really afford that? Where is their fiscal responsibility? If they are willing to do that, then surely they will bulldoze their way over all objections in their way.

“Common sense aint that common.”

Since: Jan 10

Richmond, VA

#15 May 27, 2010
powhatan girl wrote:
"These people don't mind living next to convicted murderers, rapists, burglars, car thieves and child molesters, but have a problem with a firearms training range for the state police?"
The criminals are behind bars and wire. And they are quiet. The issue here is the underhanded - or should that be high-handed - way that the State (Police, Corrections, et al) have handled this whole thing? As far as I am concerned, they shd build the shooting range next to the WalMart - if we are doomed to have both of those entities built in our fine county. And BTW,'Virginian' I don't think there is anyone in the immediate area on 2 acres - and many have lived here for a number of years. Not saying that the state does not have a 'right' to develop their land as they deem appropriate, but geez we are still their neighbors and they could have kept their agreement to keep the County - and ORT residents- apprised of their plans. So far, they have wasted (likely) thousands of your tax-payer dollars since they bulldozed and then had to go back and fill in the holes. Come on - can we really afford that? Where is their fiscal responsibility? If they are willing to do that, then surely they will bulldoze their way over all objections in their way.
I agree! Let's stick it next to Walmart! Don't forget: June 1 for the Planning Commission meeting and June 14 for the Board of Supervisors meeting, both at 7pm at Powhatan High School. Last chance to try to keep them out.

Since: Feb 10

Midlothian, VA

#16 May 27, 2010
WaxPoetic wrote:
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I agree! Let's stick it next to Walmart! Don't forget: June 1 for the Planning Commission meeting and June 14 for the Board of Supervisors meeting, both at 7pm at Powhatan High School. Last chance to try to keep them out.
Good luck with that. As it is state owned property it is exempt from seeking county approval.

“Common sense aint that common.”

Since: Jan 10

Richmond, VA

#17 May 28, 2010
va_tazdad wrote:
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Good luck with that. As it is state owned property it is exempt from seeking county approval.
No, no. I mean Walmart :)
Real Change

Brandywine, MD

#18 May 28, 2010
WaxPoetic wrote:
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No, no. I mean Walmart :)
Wax, Wax, wax...baby..come on now. I might be in the minority but I would like the walmart. Two foodlions and nothing else really. Are you really trying to fight the walmart? How much support is there? I am wondering because we fought the Walmart in Ashland when I lived there and its "David vs. Goliath". It is an uphill fight but I wouldn't mind the walmart.
Kang

Richmond, VA

#19 May 28, 2010
Why not bulldoze Gillpin Ct. and build it there? It will sound like business as usual to the surrounding neighbors.

“Common sense aint that common.”

Since: Jan 10

Richmond, VA

#20 May 29, 2010
Real Change wrote:
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Wax, Wax, wax...baby..come on now. I might be in the minority but I would like the walmart. Two foodlions and nothing else really. Are you really trying to fight the walmart? How much support is there? I am wondering because we fought the Walmart in Ashland when I lived there and its "David vs. Goliath". It is an uphill fight but I wouldn't mind the walmart.
Yeah, the attempts will more than likely prove futile. The only reason I think it'll absolutely suck is because traffic is already a pain in the arse and it's 2 lanes from beginning to end. You throw another projected 90,000 vehicles in the mix, and we'll have ourselved a nice mess. Plus, there's one right down the road in farmville, 2 walmarts 3 miles from each other on Hull street and one on Midlothian. They're everywhere. If they want to build a walmart, maybe build one further out past 522 so it'll draw attention from goochland, powhatan, amelia & cumberland, rather than putting it so close to midlothian and cause such a bottleneck in traffic right there. I don't know really...i just don't like it. Not one bit.*sigh* David vs Goliath is right, Walmart has way more money to pay Powhatan to build there than I do to keep them out.

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