Melanie Leneghan Incoming Liberty Twp...
Malcontents

Toronto, Canada

#543 Nov 9, 2012
Wonder why there were no "Vote No" signs?? Could it be fear of retribution from union malcontents?
Amazed at the dummies

Hamersville, OH

#544 Nov 9, 2012
Ok, let's state the obvious. There are two women, who are determined to run our township, their way.
One just got into office, the other is waiting in the wings. Leneghan and Guzzo.

If you are disappointed with the way the fire levy turned out, and who wouldn't be (except these two and their kool-aid drinkers) you haven't seen anything yet.

They will transform the township into their vision of reality. Their vision is so skewed, that the township will be sued out of existence. The damaged parties that will be run over by the Leneghan/Guzzo Juggernaut will seek compensation, and rightly so.

The Fire Dept. contract will go to arbitration next time, and they will then refuse to abide by it.

You think this debacle with the Fire Levy is bad? If or when Guzzo gets back in and it will be a forest fire out of control.

Pay attention people, they are storming the township as you read this.
You are the Dummy

West Portsmouth, OH

#545 Nov 9, 2012
Are you forgetting that the fire levy FAILED? All of the people who knew they were being screwed by the actual two, Carducci and Sybert and their vision of the township, will stand behind Leneghan and whoever she supports against Carducci and Sybert.

It is not Leneghan's fault the levy failed. There was NO campaign against the levy. It was by vote of the intelligent residents. We are smart enough to know when we are getting the screws put to us by our alleged leaders.

If Carducci and Sybert were so dead set that they needed 6.6 mils for the fire department to exists, then why have they now agreed to a 5.6 mil levy for the February special election? Because they know they were WRONG!!! And that is what Leneghan wanted to beign with...5.6 mils. Hmmm. The real winner on the BOT is Leneghan. The public supports her and agrees with her. So go suck it, moron!!
Amazed at the dummies wrote:
Ok, let's state the obvious. There are two women, who are determined to run our township, their way.
One just got into office, the other is waiting in the wings. Leneghan and Guzzo.
If you are disappointed with the way the fire levy turned out, and who wouldn't be (except these two and their kool-aid drinkers) you haven't seen anything yet.
They will transform the township into their vision of reality. Their vision is so skewed, that the township will be sued out of existence. The damaged parties that will be run over by the Leneghan/Guzzo Juggernaut will seek compensation, and rightly so.
The Fire Dept. contract will go to arbitration next time, and they will then refuse to abide by it.
You think this debacle with the Fire Levy is bad? If or when Guzzo gets back in and it will be a forest fire out of control.
Pay attention people, they are storming the township as you read this.
Layoffs

Tempe, AZ

#546 Nov 9, 2012
Let's start by laying off Gerber and Anderson.
Channek Four Way

Tempe, AZ

#547 Nov 9, 2012
Across the board everyone takes two weeks of without pay.
Amazed at the dummies

Hamersville, OH

#548 Nov 9, 2012
Layoffs wrote:
Let's start by laying off Gerber and Anderson.
Gerber is an elected official. Learn about your government.
You should learn too

West Portsmouth, OH

#549 Nov 10, 2012
Aren't you the jackass who blamed Leneghan for the failure of the levy? It was by a VOTE OF THE PEOPLE, not a vote by her and her alone. Go back and learn what an ELECTION is. It is the voice of the people. And the people didn't want it.
Amazed at the dummies wrote:
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Gerber is an elected official. Learn about your government.
Too bad

West Portsmouth, OH

#550 Nov 10, 2012
Layoffs wrote:
Let's start by laying off Gerber and Anderson.
We can't lay off Gerber, but if we get one more trustee who isn't a slimey tax-hiking RINO, then both Anderson and Jensen should be worried about their jobs. And believe me, Gerber's life will be made miserable!
Career FF

Columbus, OH

#551 Nov 10, 2012
Do you really smoke crack? You aren't very familiar with that which you choose to judge. LTFD firefighters work 56 hour week average, can't retire until they have at least 25 years of service, and pay a pretty hefty premium for health care as a retiree. As far as grocery shopping, when you work 24 hour shifts you have to eat. The township doesn't have a cafeteria coach that goes to the firehouse. Firefighters pay for those groceries and fix the meals themselves. Many times they eat it cold because they are out doing their jobs.

Please educate yourself before you jump to criticize.
Well Now wrote:
Let's see less than 40 hours per week work schedule , retire after 20 years with full medical, then double dip, 20 or so hours per month grocery shopping at Krogers on the taxpayers dime, suburban upper middle class fire department without all the riff raff of a metropolitan area. It sounds pretty inviting even at a lower wage. Who cares about the awards, likely spent a lot of taxpayers time submitting paperwork etc to get the award and then attending the awards banquet on the taxpayers dime. Firefighters appear do nothing on their on their own time. e.g. even collecting toys at Christmas we the taxpayers have to pay them.Strange they seem to forget their volunteer heritage. It seems that after 911 every fire department in America seems to think they should be put on a pedestal.
Agree with Career FF

West Portsmouth, OH

#552 Nov 10, 2012
People have very little understanding of what FF/EMS workers actually do. So what if you go grocery shopping while on duty? No one begrudges you the right to eat while on a 24 hour shift. That is one of the dumbest arguements I've read on here.

It is honorable that you collect toys at Christmas for needy children. There are a lot more of them in this county than people realize. It is also a great public service that you have safety checks for infant car seats since so many people do it incorrectly.

FF/EMS workers should get an awards ceremony at the taxpayers' expense to be recognized for all of the hard work that you do for our community.

But here's the 411 on the voters. Hardly any of the Liberty voters are in a union, so they don't like hearing ant complaints about your union security and benefits. Most of us can get fired any day for no reason at all. Most people do not have a pension for when they retire and we have to be much older to retire if we want to collect social security or draw on our 401Ks. Most of us also pay a higher premium than you do for health insurance and ours usually doesn't come with dental or optical. So to us, yours seems like a pretty sweet deal.

I strongly support the fire department, but did not vote for the levy...only because of the disgusting politics behind it. The fire department should be FURIOUS with last year's and two current trustees, Bob Mann (previous) Curt Sybert (current) and Mary Carducci (current), because they didn't put a fire levy on the ballot before it expired last December. They PURPOSELY didn't put a tax increase on the ballot because they thought it would hurt Bob Mann's chance at re-election. That is the REAL reason...they didn't give a rat's ass about the fire department. They wanted their buddy to get re-elected...period. Too bad it didn't work! So now because of them, we have no funding in 2013 for the fire department. The township will have to borrow the money, granted it will be at a very low interst rate. SHAME ON THEM! We also have a lazy and ignorant fiscal officer, Dr. Mark Gerber, who went along with Carducci's, Sybert's and Mann's plan, and who thought the primary election was in May instead of March, so he didn't get his work done in time for the primary ballot. Presidential Primaries are, by Ohio law, held in March...just as they have been since 2000.

Please don't be mad at Leneghan for being correct. She knows the public and knew that a lot of them wouldn't agree to such a large tax increase. People could see right through the smoke screen of a 6.6 mil levy and why the trustees and fiscal officer did it that way...we are not all a bunch of dummies.

Now the trustees have now agreed to place another levy on the special election ballot in February for 5.6 mils, which I will happily support. That is what it should have been to begin with...just like Leneghan suggested to them.

Please place your anger where it belongs...Sybert, Carducci and Gerber, not at Leneghan for being correct all along.
Soft In Comparison

Tempe, AZ

#553 Nov 11, 2012
56 hours minus mandated union "contract time" for sleeping while on "duty" , minus shopping and cooking time, recreation, working out etc, etc. NET =? And Liberty Township has amongst the fewest number of runs of any area department. Worthington has 250% more runs with 30 percent fewer staffers for essentially the same population!!

The problem is not only Carducci and Sybert it is Chief Jensen who has aspirations of managing a Powell/Liberty Township on par with Dublin. Powell/Liberty will never be a Dublin which has mega times more commercial property owners paying property taxes than Liberty Township.
Career FF

Columbus, OH

#554 Nov 11, 2012
Firefighters are like automobile or property insurance. You pay your premium "in case". You don't realize any return until something bad happens, then you are glad you paid those premiums.
With this insurance policy minutes or even seconds can mean the difference between loss of life or devastating loss of property. Tell the heart attack victim who dies waiting an extra couple of minutes or the family displaced from their home, all of their precious belongings and memories in ashes, that fire and EMS is a good place to cut corners. Yes, there are plenty of parts of the country that rely on volunteer EMS and fire service, and bless those people who volunteer, but typically those are fairly sparsely populated areas with little to no commercial interests and thinly spread populations. By the way, they typically pay for the "insurance" on the other side with higher property insurance rates.

When a firefighter walks into work they are ready to do their job- maybe they will get the chance to go to the store to pay for their meals during their 24-hour shift, maybe they will get the chance to prepare and eat those meals, maybe they will have a little time to work out so they can stay in shape for the job they may be called on to do, maybe they will get the chance to get some sleep at night, and maybe they will get to go home at the end of their shift to their families- if they haven't spent a shift looking out for others lives and property, risking their well-being for others.

No, firefighters in Liberty Township are not as busy as some, perhaps it is because of fire prevention activities carried out by the fire department. But their next call could be as bad as anything that would ever happen in Worthington or Columbus.

While there may be political issues behind the failure of the levy, the fact is that Liberty township/Powell residents, and those passing through, will not be as safe as they once were.
Soft In Comparison wrote:
56 hours minus mandated union "contract time" for sleeping while on "duty" , minus shopping and cooking time, recreation, working out etc, etc. NET =? And Liberty Township has amongst the fewest number of runs of any area department. Worthington has 250% more runs with 30 percent fewer staffers for essentially the same population!!
The problem is not only Carducci and Sybert it is Chief Jensen who has aspirations of managing a Powell/Liberty Township on par with Dublin. Powell/Liberty will never be a Dublin which has mega times more commercial property owners paying property taxes than Liberty Township.
What do you care

West Portsmouth, OH

#555 Nov 11, 2012
Soft In Comparison wrote:
56 hours minus mandated union "contract time" for sleeping while on "duty" , minus shopping and cooking time, recreation, working out etc, etc. NET =? And Liberty Township has amongst the fewest number of runs of any area department. Worthington has 250% more runs with 30 percent fewer staffers for essentially the same population!!
The problem is not only Carducci and Sybert it is Chief Jensen who has aspirations of managing a Powell/Liberty Township on par with Dublin. Powell/Liberty will never be a Dublin which has mega times more commercial property owners paying property taxes than Liberty Township.
So they get to sleep and eat...what do you care? If you worked a 24 hour shift, you would expect to be able to eat and sleep, too. Who wants a paramedic to show up at their home who hasn't eaten or slept in 22 hours? Not me! All that matters is to me is that when I call, they are ready to respond.

Yes, Chief Jensen is as much to blame as Mann, Carducci, Sybert and Gerber. Many people believe that the reason they didn't put this on the primary ballot isn't really because Gerber is an idiot,(although he has proven several times that he is) but so it would force us into a "make or break" ballot decision on such a huge tax increase. Well, it broke. Many people think they asked for so much more money is so they can build another fire station in northern Liberty Township. That is such a waste of money it is barely worth mentioning. 90% of the residents in Liberty township live within a few miles of either station. Plus, we have reciprocal agreements with other stations so that the closest FF/EMS unit will respond. Up there, it is Delaware. Jensen, Mann, Sybert, Carducci and Gerber wanted to build their own little empire in Liberty Township. But we don't want an empire! Keep in mind that in politics, he with the most toys wins. Toys = money = power. Fortunately, Mann is already gone. If we get one more rational person on the BOT next year, Jensen and all of his Lt's will be shaking in their boots, as well they should be. Even if Jensen is lucky enough to keep his job, he can kiss his taxpayer paid for vehicle and the gas and the insurance, goodbye. Do we really need 4 Lt's and 3 fire prevention specialists? Most of those positions will be on the chopping block since they are not needed. I don't even care how much we pay the FF/EMS workers, I hope we give them raises, as long as we aren't drastically overstaffed. Yamarick has to go too. A 56% retoractive pay increase? Bye Bye Warren. We can find someone who will do it for free...like most of the other township medical directors. Liberty Township is loaded with doctors.
Sort of agree

West Portsmouth, OH

#556 Nov 11, 2012
A fire derpatment is not like insurance for our property or car. We can shop around for the best price on either insurance, yet are forced by idiots like Carducci, Sybert, Jensen and Gerber as to what THEY think we should pay.

It would be better if you used real-life Liberty incidents than made up ones from other fire stations. I am unaware of any Liberty FF having to run into a burning home or building to save someone's life or their home...maybe they've put out fires in some morons' garage here and there, or responded to a lightening strike...but I could be wrong. Maybe there are lots of homes catching on fire when you have saved people's lives and it doesn't make the news. I am also unaware of anyone being displaced from their home after a fire, except for the $2M home a few years ago that was deemed a total loss as soon as Liberty Fire/EMS showed up. I'm not mocking the fire department, jsut wondering where all of these statement come form.

Why won't we be as safe as we currently are and would anyone have to wait for EMS response? Neither station is going to close. That is a bunch of made BS and it was never mentioned at any of the trustees meetings, at least not by any of the township officials. If either does close, it will only be because Carducci and Sybert are so vindictive. There are plenty of ways to keep the staffing levels and keep both stations open.
Career FF wrote:
Firefighters are like automobile or property insurance. You pay your premium "in case". You don't realize any return until something bad happens, then you are glad you paid those premiums.
With this insurance policy minutes or even seconds can mean the difference between loss of life or devastating loss of property. Tell the heart attack victim who dies waiting an extra couple of minutes or the family displaced from their home, all of their precious belongings and memories in ashes, that fire and EMS is a good place to cut corners. Yes, there are plenty of parts of the country that rely on volunteer EMS and fire service, and bless those people who volunteer, but typically those are fairly sparsely populated areas with little to no commercial interests and thinly spread populations. By the way, they typically pay for the "insurance" on the other side with higher property insurance rates.
When a firefighter walks into work they are ready to do their job- maybe they will get the chance to go to the store to pay for their meals during their 24-hour shift, maybe they will get the chance to prepare and eat those meals, maybe they will have a little time to work out so they can stay in shape for the job they may be called on to do, maybe they will get the chance to get some sleep at night, and maybe they will get to go home at the end of their shift to their families- if they haven't spent a shift looking out for others lives and property, risking their well-being for others.
No, firefighters in Liberty Township are not as busy as some, perhaps it is because of fire prevention activities carried out by the fire department. But their next call could be as bad as anything that would ever happen in Worthington or Columbus.
While there may be political issues behind the failure of the levy, the fact is that Liberty township/Powell residents, and those passing through, will not be as safe as they once were.
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Career FF Paid Postiing

Tempe, AZ

#557 Nov 12, 2012
Good chance Career FF is "on duty" being paid by the taxpayers while posting at Chief Jensen's directive.
Citizen

Portsmouth, OH

#558 Nov 12, 2012
How nice....city of Powell residents get stabbed in the back because of Liberty Township politics.
No need to worry though, because nothing bad ever happens around here. It's not like your spouse could ever go into cardiac arrest, your infant stops breathing,or your expensive SUV gets into a crash on the Sawmill Speedway.
Better brush up on your CPR and have a garden hose ready, because when seconds count, your fire fighters are now a few more minutes away.
Tired of Mel and Peg

Hamersville, OH

#559 Nov 12, 2012
Call it what you will, but the bottom line is our Fire Dept. has just been set back several years, at least.

Closing a station is not in the best interests of the residents. Laying off Liberty FF that we have spent tax dollars in additional training is not in the best interests of the residents. Period. You have to ask yourself, is there a better way this could have been handled?

The decision was made to put a 6.6 mill levy on the ballot. Leneghan supported 6 mills, but would not support 6.6 mills. That's a 10% difference. The thinking was to build a little cushion in reserve for the Fire Dept. Since it has to go before the voters, it is not something the trustees can decide, or do easily.

So, Leneghan and her cronies make it an issue. Why? Why would they run the risk of putting residents at greater risk? In their world, apparently a life of a Liberty resident is not worth the extra 10%. Politics. The goal was to try and cast Sybert and Carducci as RINO's and tax and spend democrats. Neither of which are true.
All so Leneghan's buddy Guzzo, can use it as a campaign issue. How disgusting.

So, here we are. A Fire station will close, the firefighters laid off. The township will spend all of the remaining Fire funds to keep the Fire Dept. open until the levy hopefully passes in February. Then, they will borrow money, which will cost the taxpayer interest, to get through. Then there will be more levies to put the Fire Dept. back on solid footing, and who pays? The taxpayer.

So, who wins and who loses? The Fire Dept. loses, the laid off Firefighters lose, and the residents have a lower level of service. For what? So Leneghan could make a political point?

The residents of Liberty Township and Powell would do well to remember this when Leneghan's buddy Guzzo runs for trustee. We can expect more stupidity if she wins. Vote for somebody else besides Guzzo, and defeat Leneghan at the next election, or look forward to more of the same.

The trustee's should be counted on to act in the best interests of the residents. Leneghan and her buddy Guzzo can be counted on to act in their best interests, not the residents. If the two coincide, that will be fortunate for the residents, but I wouldn't count on it.

DEFEAT GUZZO AND LENEGHAN. Let's take control of our township back from a wacky minority.
Come On Little Cushion

Tempe, AZ

#560 Nov 12, 2012
Yamarick 56% retroactive raise. Fire Lieutenants 24% raises over 4 years. That is what happens when you give a governmental entity a little cushion!!! They will give it away if it is in the checking account. It these economic times thin budgeting is where it is at!!
Sybert Quid Pro Quo

Tempe, AZ

#561 Nov 12, 2012
Retroactive 50 plus % raise. Shazaam here come the letters to the editor from the medical director urging passage of the levy.Hmmmmmm!!!!!
Career Firefighter

Columbus, OH

#562 Nov 12, 2012
Good chance you are wrong. Live in Liberty Township, work in Columbus. All written on my own time, and while I know Chief Jensen, he doesn't have a clue who is writing this.

By the way- if you are really in Tempe, AZ, as Topix says, why don't you worry about Tempe, AZ. If not, why are you LYING to everyone? Lying about one thing, such as location, tends to indicate a propensity towards dishonesty.
Career FF Paid Postiing wrote:
Good chance Career FF is "on duty" being paid by the taxpayers while posting at Chief Jensen's directive.

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