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CatInTheHat

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#1 Aug 16, 2012
Thousands Line Up for Deportation Deferments

SANTA ANA, Calif.(AP)-- Nathaly Uribe has all the papers she needs to get a work permit - something the 17-year-old daughter of a construction worker only dreamed of growing up as an illegal immigrant in the United States.

The high school senior said she hopes a federal program beginning Wednesday and defers deportation for illegal immigrants will make it easier to get a decent job and help pay for college.

"This is my country. It's where my roots are," said Uribe, who moved from Chile when she was a toddler and lives in Glen Burnie, Md. "It feels great to know that the country that I call home finally accepted me."

Thousands of young illegal immigrants lined up Wednesday hoping for the right to work legally in America without being deported. The Obama administration's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals could expand the rights of more than 1 million young illegal immigrants by giving them work permits, though they would not obtain legal residency here or a path to citizenship.

At least 13,000 people stood in line in Chicago, clutching reams of paperwork, for a workshop led by immigrant rights advocates at the city's Navy Pier. Hundreds of potential applicants waited outside nonprofit offices in Los Angeles for help filing paperwork to open the door to the staples of success in America - a work permit, and then later a Social Security number and driver's license.

"It's something I have been waiting for since I was two years old," said Bupendra Ram, a 25-year-old communications graduate student in Fullerton, Calif., who still needs supporting documents from his Fiji Islands home before he can apply. "This offers us an opportunity to fulfill the dreams I've had since I was a child."

Less than three months before an expected tight presidential election, the new immigration program is mired in controversy. Republican critics accuse President Barack Obama of drafting the plan to boost his political standing with Latinos ahead of November's vote and say the program favors illegal immigrants over unemployed American citizens during dismal economic times.

To be eligible, immigrants must prove they arrived in the United States before they turned 16, are 30 or younger, have been living in the country at least five years and are in school or graduated or served in the military. They cannot have been convicted of certain crimes or otherwise pose a safety threat.

Initial concerns by immigrant rights groups that federal authorities might take a tough approach on applications or that a Republican presidential victory could unravel applicants' gains have largely been pushed aside by massive interest from thousands of young people eager to work.

In Los Angeles, one immigrant rights' group started hosting hourly information sessions over the last month to keep up with the frenzy. The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles has handed out 12,000 information packets about the program and is encouraging all eligible immigrants to apply as long as they have stayed out of legal trouble, said Angelica Salas, the organization's director.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney does not support so-called Dream Act legislation for illegal immigrants who attend college - a key group that Obama aims to reach with this program. The former Massachusetts governor has also criticized the deferred action program but has not said it he would reverse it, pledging instead an unspecified "civil but resolute" long-term fix to illegal immigration.

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#2 Aug 16, 2012
I'm really excited by this. Retaining and encouraging high value immigrants who have come over as small children and are in culture and identity, American is just common sense. Hopefully, this will lead to more open and streamlined immigration policy for future migrants.
CatInTheHat

Blacklick, OH

#3 Aug 16, 2012
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So far, the measure has won favor for Obama along Latinos - many who view immigration as a litmus test when choosing a political candidate, said Manuel Pastor, director of the University of Southern California's Center for the Study of Immigrant Integration.

"What this has done is to signal that the president, who was unable to get comprehensive immigration reform, does at least care about the situation of these immigrants," Pastor said. "This is something that has been overwhelmingly popular in the immigrant population and in the Latino population in general."

Some Republican lawmakers have accused Obama of sidestepping Congress and creating a backdoor amnesty program with the high potential for fraud.

In an internal document outlining the program's implementation, Department of Homeland Security officials estimated more than 1 million people would apply in the first year and about 890,000 would be eligible.

On Wednesday, immigrants lined up for help filing applications at workshops around the country. Others sought identity documents from consulates to be able to apply.

Jaqueline Cinto, 26, said she's still working on gathering the documents she needs, knowing it's her only shot at putting her master's degree in education to good use. But she's nervous that filing the papers might put her relatives at risk for deportation - even though Homeland Security officials have said they will generally not use applicants' information to track down other family.

"I am even more afraid that I might be denied," said Cinto, who came to New York more than a decade ago from Mexico.

In central California, one group has been warning farmworkers and their children not to sign up for the program at all.

"Immigration agents could haul them off that same day," said Manuel Cunha, president of the Nisei Farmers League. "Even if they don't, if this policy is disbanded, now ICE has the addresses of all the families. Why would you want to squeal on your parents?"

The documents to prove identity could include passports, birth certificates, school transcripts, medical, financial and military records. Multiple sworn affidavits, signed under penalty of perjury, can also be used, Homeland Security officials said. Anyone found to have committed fraud will be referred to federal immigration agents, the department said.

Laura Lichter, a Denver attorney who heads the American Immigration Lawyers Association, said everyone takes a risk by applying.

"I would say that people are between a rock and a hard place. In most cases, people can take (the government) at their word that their intent is to administer this policy in a fair and appropriate manner but there are going to be people that are going to find themselves having problems," she said

A decision on each application could take several months, and immigrants have been warned not to leave the country while their application is pending. If they are allowed to stay in the United States and want to travel internationally, they will need to apply for permission to come back into the country, a request that would cost another $360.

The lines on Wednesday grew throughout the day; the crowd in Chicago was so large that workshop organizers told them to come back another day.

"Navy Pier is today's Ellis Island, and while they saw New York City, today they see Chicago," said Illinois congressman Luis Gutierrez. "But the most important thing is they see America."

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CatInTheHat

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#7 Aug 16, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
I'm really excited by this. Retaining and encouraging high value immigrants who have come over as small children and are in culture and identity, American is just common sense. Hopefully, this will lead to more open and streamlined immigration policy for future migrants.
http://www.caps-blog.org/articles/2012/08/06/...

Alarmingly, an administration official commented that the goal is to “maximize participation” and that “an independent assessment of the volume”[numbers of work permits] has not been performed. Obama has not indicated the slightest concern about unemployed Americans and the detrimental impact that issuing 1.2 million work permits to aliens would have on them.[Obama Immigration Policy Opens Work Permit Door to ID Thieves, Jailed Aliens and Uninsured Drivers, by Neil Munro, Daily Caller, August 3, 2012]

The Federation for American Immigration Reform, noting even more egregious offenses, blasted Obama. FAIR president Dan Stein:

“In addition to a massive amnesty that Congress never legislated, the announcement that work authorization will be granted to anyone who can ‘demonstrate an economic necessity to work’– in other words virtually everybody – is a unilateral move on the part of the Administration to nullify a critical immigration law Congress did enact.”[DHS Amnesty Guidelines Outline Shed Light on the Open-Ended Nature of this Illegal Power Grab, Charges FAIR, by Peter Schrag, Sacramento Bee, August 5, 2012]

In my June 21 column and July 5 blog (read them here and here), I predicted that the Obama administration would soon disregard even the pretense of performing even cursory due diligence and simply process the aliens’ applications. This is one of those times when I wish I had been wrong.

Obama Amnesty Plan: Catch, Release, Vote

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/obama-...
Spooklivesskcusz ipot

Toledo, OH

#8 Aug 16, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
I'm really excited by this. Retaining and encouraging high value immigrants who have come over as small children and are in culture and identity, American is just common sense. Hopefully, this will lead to more open and streamlined immigration policy for future migrants.
We should interrogate these invaders to fine out who their friends are and exterminate the invaders and all who assisted them. There is a door with a welcome mat for immigrants. These are just parasites that came through the fence.

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#10 Aug 16, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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http://www.caps-blog.org/articles/2012/08/06/...
Alarmingly, an administration official commented that the goal is to “maximize participation” and that “an independent assessment of the volume”[numbers of work permits] has not been performed. Obama has not indicated the slightest concern about unemployed Americans and the detrimental impact that issuing 1.2 million work permits to aliens would have on them. http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/obama-...
These folks are here now. Pretending that they are not does not protect any jobs. Sequestering these folks in the illegal job market does more to compete harmfully with Americans--dragging wages down--than providing work permits. Consider also that this is limited to those who are in school or have graduated high school.

BTW--Congress had the opportunity to act. But, the Do Nothings have managed to keep comprehensive reform--and a lot of other legislation--from happening.

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#12 Aug 16, 2012
Spooklivesskcuszipot wrote:
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We should interrogate these invaders to fine out who their friends are and exterminate the invaders and all who assisted them. There is a door with a welcome mat for immigrants. These are just parasites that came through the fence.
That, of course, is the risk that every applicant faces.
Spooklivesskcusz ipot

Toledo, OH

#13 Aug 16, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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These folks are here now. Pretending that they are not does not protect any jobs. Sequestering these folks in the illegal job market does more to compete harmfully with Americans--dragging wages down--than providing work permits. Consider also that this is limited to those who are in school or have graduated high school.
BTW--Congress had the opportunity to act. But, the Do Nothings have managed to keep comprehensive reform--and a lot of other legislation--from happening.
So if Congress doean't make new law daily it is the presidents job to do so? What if instead of the half bread bastard full blooded marxist we had president that placed troops on the border and ordered the round of all illegals and after rounding them up marched them to the border . After arriving at the border instead of tossing them back to mexico had the military shoot them as we did spies in the past? That would be ok since congress didn't act.

Infact here is a proposal to assist those unemployed a 100proposal bounty on every illegal caught and brought in. A bonus if the illegal has been sterilized.
Spooklivesskcusz ipot

Toledo, OH

#14 Aug 16, 2012
Fred Gee Sanford wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! As if ANYTHING from the GOP House would make it to the floor of Reid's Senate. There have beeen numerous jobs bills that have been stopped by Harry the Liar.
You two must be related. I never "pegged" you for a Mormon, Reader.
Did you mis type that? I had her pegged as a moron long ago.

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#15 Aug 16, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Skim through this
By the way it cost me $35,000.00 to get my step daughter into the US legally...

Illegal Immigration Laws

It is Illegal To Bring Illegal Aliens Into US under current Laws
It is unlawful for any person to bring aliens into the United States. Fine:$3,000 for each alien (Sec. 273.[8 U.S.C. 1323])

It is Illegal To Harbor Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful to bring in or harbor illegal aliens. Fine:$3,000 for each alien.(Sec. 273.[8 U.S.C. 1323])

It is Illegal To Employ, Recruit, or Refer Illegal Aliens for Jobs
. It is unlawful for a person or other entity- to employ or recruit or refer for a fee an illegal alien in the United States. Commercial advantage or private financial gain offender can be fined under title 18, US code, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both....Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in sub paragraph (B) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both.(Sec. 274A.[8 U.S.C. 1324a])

It is Illegal To Forge Documents for Illegal Immigrants or violate Identity Theft Laws
. It is unlawful for any person or entity knowingly- to forge documents. Legal documents must be presented when entering the US.
( Sec. 274C.[8 U.S.C. 1324c])
...Fine: not less than $250 and not more than $2,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.
...Previous violation: not less than $2,000 and not more than $5,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.

US Laws Declare it is Illegal To Aid or Abet Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful for anyone to aid or assist aliens to enter the United States. Penalty: fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.( Sec. 277.[8 U.S.C. 1327])

LEGAL Immigrants Must Know English, US History, US Laws, and Principles
. No person shall be naturalized as a citizen of the United States who cannot demonstrate:... An understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write and and speak words in ordinary usage in the English language.
... A knowledge and understanding of history, and of the principles and form of government, of the United States.( Sec. 312.[8 U.S.C. 1423])

Legal Immigrants Must Display Moral Character and No Crime Record
. Requirements as to residence, good moral character, attachment to the principles of the constitution, and favorable disposition to the Untied States.( Sec. 316.[8 U.S.C. 1427])

Legal Immigrants Must Be Investigated and Screened for past crimes and terrorism links
. Prior to a person becoming naturalized, or an employee of the service, a personal investigation is required of the individual applying.
( Sec. 335.[8 U.S.C. 1446])

It is Illegal For Illegal Aliens to Bypass Medical and Physical Exams for illnesses and infectious diseases
. Physical and Mental Examinations are required.
Aliens arriving at ports of the United States will be detained for the purpose of determining whether they are afflicted with any of the diseases or mental or physical defects or disabilities set forth in section 212(a), or whenever the Attorney General has received information showing that any aliens are coming from a country or have embarked at a place where any of such diseases are prevalent or epidemic.
( Sec. 232 [8 U.S.C. 1252])

Illegal Aliens Deported are ineligible for readmission to US Under Current Laws
. Distressed Aliens:
Any alien who falls into distress or who needs public aid from causes arising prior to his/her entry is desirous of being so removed. Any alien so removed shall be ineligible to apply for or receive a visa or other documentation for readmission, or to apply for admission to the United States except with the prior approval of the Attorney General.
( Sec. 250.[8 U.S.C. 1260])

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#16 Aug 16, 2012
While usually racist trolling is rather dull, the quote "half bread bastard" made me chortle.

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#20 Aug 16, 2012
Spooklivesskcuszipot wrote:
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So if Congress doean't make new law daily it is the presidents job to do so?
Ignoring your hyperbole, somebody has to govern.

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#21 Aug 16, 2012
imagine2011 wrote:
I wonder how many of these illegal immigrants have been given American ID's from dead people and will be paid to vote for Obama?
Probably just enough so that once again the Democrats will be able to steal the election.

So I guess you're shooting for most paranoid?

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#22 Aug 16, 2012
imagine2011 wrote:
I wonder how many of these illegal immigrants have been given American ID's from dead people and will be paid to vote for Obama?
I don't know, imagine.

How many?

Any proof?

Or just suffering from an ailment of the mouth more commonly associated with the other end? Try Pepto.
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Zanesville, OH

#23 Aug 16, 2012
Fred Gee Sanford wrote:
<quoted text>So, when are you coming back here to pay taxes and party with your Mexican pets?
She probably thinks Mohammed is a Welsh name.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/14/moha...

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#24 Aug 16, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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Skim through this
By the way it cost me $35,000.00 to get my step daughter into the US legally...
Illegal Immigration Laws

(omitted to fit the character limit)
Ok, skimming complete.

You gotta source for that cut and paste job?

And what exactly is your point?

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#25 Aug 16, 2012
Fred Gee Sanford wrote:
<quoted text>So, when are you coming back here to pay taxes and party with your Mexican pets?
As I've been making over the threshold for overseas tax free earnings, I still pay US taxes on my overseas income. Or did, till going back to school. Imagine I'll be back paying both sets of taxmen once this degree is done.

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#26 Aug 16, 2012
Spooklivesskcuszipot wrote:
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So if Congress doean't make new law daily it is the presidents job to do so? What if instead of the half bread bastard full blooded marxist we had president that placed troops on the border and ordered the round of all illegals and after rounding them up marched them to the border . After arriving at the border instead of tossing them back to mexico had the military shoot them as we did spies in the past? That would be ok since congress didn't act.
Infact here is a proposal to assist those unemployed a 100proposal bounty on every illegal caught and brought in. A bonus if the illegal has been sterilized.
You do realize Obama has deported far more illegal aliens and allocated far more resources on the border than his Republicen predecessor.

Why is it the only time Conservatives seem overly concerned about the lack of effort in curbing illegal immigration is while a Democrat is President? Could it be for the same reason it is also the only time they care greatly about debt?

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#27 Aug 16, 2012
markbano wrote:
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Probably just enough so that once again the Democrats will be able to steal the election.
So I guess you're shooting for most paranoid?
Don't say that, mark. There are folks who will believe you!

Or maybe they are just set on believing it anyway.

Never mind.

Carry on.

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