Pair facing immigration fraud charges

Feb 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Douglas County Sentinel

Two men were arrested in a McDonald's parking lot as a part of an undercover sting, delivering phony Social Security cards and other identification that were destined to help illegal aliens pass themselves off as legitimate.

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lazzerath

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I wonder if they had drivers license, social security cards and birth certificates on the dollar menu?

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What is so scary is that these men arrested are like two drops of water in the ocean. Also how many of these documents were sold before they were caught.
Goes to prove that illegal aliens are not just the nice, hardworking people just out to better themselves. They are criminals because they cross our border illegally and purchase forged and stolen documents to illegally stay in this country. Many also get certain benefits from our government agencies. That means they are illegally scamming the government and it's taxpayers.
These are all criminal actions, which makes these illegal aliens criminals.
No different than if I went to the bank and robbed it to get enough money to pay for my Mothers much need operation. I would have committed a crime and I would be a criminal.

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Bigdave1 wrote:
What is so scary is that these men arrested are like two drops of water in the ocean. Also how many of these documents were sold before they were caught.
Goes to prove that illegal aliens are not just the nice, hardworking people just out to better themselves. They are criminals because they cross our border illegally and purchase forged and stolen documents to illegally stay in this country. Many also get certain benefits from our government agencies. That means they are illegally scamming the government and it's taxpayers.
These are all criminal actions, which makes these illegal aliens criminals.
No different than if I went to the bank and robbed it to get enough money to pay for my Mothers much need operation. I would have committed a crime and I would be a criminal.

Neither party is interested in dealing with this problem and we've had it for decades. Who can blame the border jumpers when it's so freakin easy? It's our own traitors we need to deal with.
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I had lots rather have mexicans than negros.a mexican WILL work.

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I had lots rather have mexicans than negros.a mexican WILL work.

Sorry, but Mexican gangs are far worse than anything blacks can come up with. Mexican gangs are organized and driven by growth. Black gangs are hell bent on killing each other thereby making the Mexican gang's job much easier.

I wonder when blacks will come to realize their real "enemy" isn't white people at this point in time, it's the droves of people jumping our border to steal black jobs, homes and lives.

I might feel sorry for bloacks if they weren't such a-holes to me and my kind just because we're white. Instead I have a ring-side seat to watch black Americans get marginalized by Hispanics. And of course their hero, Obama, is helping the Mexicans, not blacks.
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Grob Hahn wrote:
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Sorry, but Mexican gangs are far worse than anything blacks can come up with. Mexican gangs are organized and driven by growth. Black gangs are hell bent on killing each other thereby making the Mexican gang's job much easier.
I wonder when blacks will come to realize their real "enemy" isn't white people at this point in time, it's the droves of people jumping our border to steal black jobs, homes and lives.
I might feel sorry for bloacks if they weren't such a-holes to me and my kind just because we're white. Instead I have a ring-side seat to watch black Americans get marginalized by Hispanics. And of course their hero, Obama, is helping the Mexicans, not blacks.
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What's a black job?

Fast Food? Furniture Mover? President of the United States of America?

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What's a black job?
Fast Food? Furniture Mover? President of the United States of America?

Unfortunately the black dropout rate means too many of them have lower tier jobs. Such jobs are easily taken by peasants willing to work under the table or for lower wages. Why? Because $4 per hour is considerably better than they can get in Mexico.

Personally, I would not want 20 million illegal Swedes in the country either. But then, the Swedes would be stealing MY job. Just like the people from India have dominated the IT market in the US by stealing American jobs. But hey, those are the jobs Americans don't want to do right? Isn't that the classic lefty justification for all this great "multiculturalism"?

America as a concept is designed for its own, unique culture. Trying to infuse other cultures above Americans will ruin us as it would any nation. Let's see how well the Africans get along with the Chinese since it's the only, opposite version of this insane concept.

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You're former inhabitants of Mexico are taking "black jobs", with the insinuation that most blacks work lower tier positions.

The black dropout rate is at a shocking 8%. however, the white dropout rate is at 5.1%, with only a scant 2.9% difference between the two.

However the Hispanic dropout rate is at 15%.

Basically, everything about your post and your world-view regarding race is wrong.
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This can be observed empirically by reading any of Bored Monitors posts.

Sad but true.

Interesting fact: My garbage man is white. One of my clients, who happens to be black, owns a waste removal service with contracts in excess of $80,000,000.00.

Yesterday I met with another couple who are clients of mine. The husband is a partner in a civil engineering firm, the wife is a financial consultant. Both are Ivy League educated and wonderful people. It would appear they both are employed in "black jobs".

Stereotypes often have a small root of truth to them. Obviously we've all seen the ebonics-talking low-rent uneducated black thugs somewhere or the other. Perhaps the percentages of by race are higher than of redneck-talking low-rent uneducated white trash. The danger of stereotypes is that you tend to automatically think of a person based on skin-color as being a certain way- when in reality the odds are against it.

The concept of "black jobs" is ridiculous.
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Edit: Statics were from the National Center for Education Statistic, but from 2010.

The 2012 numbers for Georgia specifically are as follows:

Whites: 3.4%
Blacks: 5.3%

There's a 1.9% difference in dropout rates. Not nearly dramatic enough to make the claim that there are "black jobs" and "white jobs".

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d11/tables...

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You're former inhabitants of Mexico are taking "black jobs", with the insinuation that most blacks work lower tier positions.
The black dropout rate is at a shocking 8%. however, the white dropout rate is at 5.1%, with only a scant 2.9% difference between the two.
However the Hispanic dropout rate is at 15%.
Basically, everything about your post and your world-view regarding race is wrong.

In the late 90s construction teams in Atlanta were loaded with black people. By 2002 the same jobs were dominated by Hispanic people. And yes, I am saying that black Americans by and large occupy the lower tier of employment in the nation. I never said they ALL do, but the peasants are clearly taking all of the lowest tier jobs forst. In a generation or two they will be taking higher tiers of jobs, but they'll be "Americans" by then and nobody will be able to complain about it legally.

At the moment I can't imagine that you think white people give a crap about the job prospects for black Americans. But again, I don't want to see illegal Swedes taking jobs from Americans either no matter what color the Americans happen to be.

As for dropout rates, those seem to be a moving target depending on where you look. This site http://boostup.org/en/facts/statistics#nation... says we're at 25% nationally and that black dropouts are over 40%(very close to Hispanic students actually) while it's just over 20% for white students.

I'd like to see where you come by 8%. And I'd like to know how you figure black Americans have not been disproportionately affected by the influx of illegal invaders crossing the border. Even the leftist Huffington Post has pointed this out a number of times.
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ChicknButt wrote:
You're former inhabitants of Mexico are taking "black jobs", with the insinuation that most blacks work lower tier positions.
The black dropout rate is at a shocking 8%. however, the white dropout rate is at 5.1%, with only a scant 2.9% difference between the two.
However the Hispanic dropout rate is at 15%.
Basically, everything about your post and your world-view regarding race is wrong.
If you don't know how numbers actually work, you shouldn't be posting them to make a point. The "scant" 2.9% difference ACTUALLY works out to be 56.9% higher than the white dropout rate. 8% is 56.9% higher than 5.1%, do the math. Maybe that's why liberals think we have a revenue problem rather than a spending problem? In other words, the black dropout rate is 56.9% higher than the white dropout rate.

Since you likely aren't able to comprehend this, let's use a simple example:

In another thread, some erudite individual (unregistered, so it may have been you) made a point: there's more whites on welfare than blacks. That's actually a true statement, but the "proper" point would be that there's a higher percentage of blacks on welfare than whites. Since whites are over 78%(let's use 75%) of the current US population and blacks are somewhere around 13%(let's use 15%), there are 5 times as many whites as blacks.

Let's change the "subject" to smoking, since most people realize it's a bad habit. If 20% of the white population smokes and 100% of the black population smokes, the total number of white and black smokers is identical. Do the math, if you can.

Since you're the self proclaimed expert at politics and real estate, here's another example:

ASSUME my subdivision has 100 houses, 10 in foreclosure (10%). Your subdivision has 200 houses, 10 in foreclosure (5%). By your "logic", my subdivision has a "scant" 5% higher foreclosure rate, when, in actuality, my subdivision has a 100% higher rate than your subdivision rate, as my subdivision rate is twice yours. The actual number is 5% higher, the relative number is 100% higher.

See how the numbers work?

But, being the real estate expert, you'd sell all those houses in a jiffy, I bet...

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To begin with, I don't know crap about real estate other than what I've picked up through purchasing a few homes through the years.
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If you don't know how numbers actually work, you shouldn't be posting them to make a point. The "scant" 2.9% difference ACTUALLY works out to be 56.9% higher than the white dropout rate. 8% is 56.9% higher than 5.1%, do the math. Maybe that's why liberals think we have a revenue problem rather than a spending problem? In other words, the black dropout rate is 56.9% higher than the white dropout rate.
Since you likely aren't able to comprehend this, let's use a simple example:
In another thread, some erudite individual (unregistered, so it may have been you) made a point: there's more whites on welfare than blacks. That's actually a true statement, but the "proper" point would be that there's a higher percentage of blacks on welfare than whites. Since whites are over 78%(let's use 75%) of the current US population and blacks are somewhere around 13%(let's use 15%), there are 5 times as many whites as blacks.
Let's change the "subject" to smoking, since most people realize it's a bad habit. If 20% of the white population smokes and 100% of the black population smokes, the total number of white and black smokers is identical. Do the math, if you can.
Since you're the self proclaimed expert at politics and real estate, here's another example:
ASSUME my subdivision has 100 houses, 10 in foreclosure (10%). Your subdivision has 200 houses, 10 in foreclosure (5%). By your "logic", my subdivision has a "scant" 5% higher foreclosure rate, when, in actuality, my subdivision has a 100% higher rate than your subdivision rate, as my subdivision rate is twice yours. The actual number is 5% higher, the relative number is 100% higher.
See how the numbers work?
But, being the real estate expert, you'd sell all those houses in a jiffy, I bet...
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If you don't know how numbers actually work
Save your patronizing and smug little comments for somebody they might apply to.

Out of a population of 100 students, 13 of them are black, 87% of them are white.

White dropouts (at 3.4%):=2.95 people. Let's call it 3.

Black dropouts (at 5.3%):=.68 people. Let's call it 1.

So, out of those 100 people - make 96 of them stand over on one side of the room - these are those who have high school diplomas.

Let's have the over 4 people stand over at the other side of the room. Those 4 are dropouts. There are 3 white people and 1 black person on that side of the room.

Assuming NONE of this group goes to college, it would ridiculous to suggest that black people need "black jobs" because their dropout rate is higher.

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What's a black job?
Fast Food? Furniture Mover? President of the United States of America?
Funny just the other day you were calling white people jealous of blacks because the blacks had all the good prestigious jobs. Well there you go again. Now your saying they can only be hired as a burger flipper. You Liberals will just change your speeches to suit the moment.

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Bill in Dville wrote:
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If you don't know how numbers actually work, you shouldn't be posting them to make a point. The "scant" 2.9% difference ACTUALLY works out to be 56.9% higher than the white dropout rate. 8% is 56.9% higher than 5.1%, do the math. Maybe that's why liberals think we have a revenue problem rather than a spending problem? In other words, the black dropout rate is 56.9% higher than the white dropout rate.
Since you likely aren't able to comprehend this, let's use a simple example:
In another thread, some erudite individual (unregistered, so it may have been you) made a point: there's more whites on welfare than blacks. That's actually a true statement, but the "proper" point would be that there's a higher percentage of blacks on welfare than whites. Since whites are over 78%(let's use 75%) of the current US population and blacks are somewhere around 13%(let's use 15%), there are 5 times as many whites as blacks.
Let's change the "subject" to smoking, since most people realize it's a bad habit. If 20% of the white population smokes and 100% of the black population smokes, the total number of white and black smokers is identical. Do the math, if you can.
Since you're the self proclaimed expert at politics and real estate, here's another example:
ASSUME my subdivision has 100 houses, 10 in foreclosure (10%). Your subdivision has 200 houses, 10 in foreclosure (5%). By your "logic", my subdivision has a "scant" 5% higher foreclosure rate, when, in actuality, my subdivision has a 100% higher rate than your subdivision rate, as my subdivision rate is twice yours. The actual number is 5% higher, the relative number is 100% higher.
See how the numbers work?
But, being the real estate expert, you'd sell all those houses in a jiffy, I bet...
:)
++ A great intelligent post.

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++ A great intelligent post.
Thanks. Too bad it's way over Stir Fries level...

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ChicknButt wrote:
To begin with, I don't know crap about real estate other than what I've picked up through purchasing a few homes through the years.
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Save your patronizing and smug little comments for somebody they might apply to.
Out of a population of 100 students, 13 of them are black, 87% of them are white.
White dropouts (at 3.4%):=2.95 people. Let's call it 3.
Black dropouts (at 5.3%):=.68 people. Let's call it 1.
So, out of those 100 people - make 96 of them stand over on one side of the room - these are those who have high school diplomas.
Let's have the over 4 people stand over at the other side of the room. Those 4 are dropouts. There are 3 white people and 1 black person on that side of the room.
Assuming NONE of this group goes to college, it would ridiculous to suggest that black people need "black jobs" because their dropout rate is higher.
You don't know squat about math, either...

Let's see:

3 of 87 vs. 1 of 13....Hmmm...

BTW, I never said anything about "black jobs", you might want to look at your various posts under various names and see to whom you're responding...
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Bigdave1 wrote:
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Funny just the other day you were calling white people jealous of blacks because the blacks had all the good prestigious jobs. Well there you go again. Now your saying they can only be hired as a burger flipper. You Liberals will just change your speeches to suit the moment.
Listen you Big Dummy - I did NOT call white people jealous of blacks due to having the good jobs. In fact, I said nothing of the kind. It's pure fabrication on your part.

Also, I'm am absolutely NOT saying blacks can be only hired as burger flippers. In fact, I'm arguing the exact opposite.

How can you be wrong 100% of the time? It's mind-boggling.
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Bigdave1 wrote:
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++ A great intelligent post.
No, it's NOT an intelligent post. Did you understand the response at all?
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BTW, I never said anything about "black jobs", you might want to look at your various posts under various names and see to whom you're responding...
I know exactly who I'm responding to. Anybody with reading comprehension does. It wasn't you.

Again wrong. It's uncanny.

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