Republican Party Lost In Space !

Republican Party Lost In Space !

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Rightwing

Douglasville, GA

#1 Mar 17, 2013
The talking heads and the analysts are still working frantically to develop a concise explanation why President Obama won and Mitt Romney lost the election. The American Enterprise Institute tallied final demographic results and the conclusions to be drawn are pretty obvious.

In a nutshell, Republicans committed political suicide by allowing a minority of right wing ideologues to dominate the stage. Their rhetoric completely turned off a huge swath of the nation against the party enabling the president to achieve a significant electoral victory.

Since: Jul 12

Lithia Springs, GA

#2 Mar 17, 2013
Rightwing wrote:
The talking heads and the analysts are still working frantically to develop a concise explanation why President Obama won and Mitt Romney lost the election. The American Enterprise Institute tallied final demographic results and the conclusions to be drawn are pretty obvious.
In a nutshell, Republicans committed political suicide by allowing a minority of right wing ideologues to dominate the stage. Their rhetoric completely turned off a huge swath of the nation against the party enabling the president to achieve a significant electoral victory.
It isn't difficult why Romney didn't win. Obama was supposed to win. It looked just like McCain running again. Romney and McCain being picked to start with, and not really trying to win. It was so obvious that most people were talking about it well before the elections. Can you spell rigged elections? They were a joke that hasn't fooled many people.

“Yet another average white man.”

Since: Jun 11

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#3 Mar 18, 2013
What's really stupid is the latest assertion that republicans can't win anothe election unless they act more like democrats. It ignores the fact that it is the very difference that makes both parties necessary. If republicans act like democrats, what's the point? We'd become a single party nation devoid of the very checks and balances that keep the government from spiraling out of control. It keeps things like untested changes from morphing into management nightmares.

At the moment 30 US states have republican governors. How can that be? Could it be that Americans really are more conservative and that all the left gains have been massive, populist manipulations?

After all, when the GOP wheeled out the fossilized McCain and his loopy VP choice, most true republicans either got lock jaw or the impression of a hand on their face that tooks weeks to fade away. It was so obvious they were throwing the race. Then we got a replay with Romney who most knew in the beginning never had a chance. Was the GOP paid off so a black(ish) rookie senator could "Make History" and initiate a "Post-Racial" hope for the US?

And how has that worked out so far? Seems like the racial issues are worse than ever (though at least we all know now that it's the fault of old white guys). The economy is improving for everyone BUT the middle class, a fact that can't possibly be sustained. The 50 million or so children the US aborted legally have to be replaced with 3rd world immigrants or the economy will collapse. Even social security, a plan that Americans were forced into paying, is now being treated like a government gimme program, an "entitlement" like welfare, which it is NOT.

So please, tell me how this has all improved and will continue to improve with a democrat-based monoparty system in the US?
Grobbbbbbb

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#4 Mar 18, 2013
Grob Hahn wrote:
What's really stupid is the latest assertion that republicans can't win anothe election unless they act more like democrats. It ignores the fact that it is the very difference that makes both parties necessary. If republicans act like democrats, what's the point? We'd become a single party nation devoid of the very checks and balances that keep the government from spiraling out of control. It keeps things like untested changes from morphing into management nightmares.
At the moment 30 US states have republican governors. How can that be? Could it be that Americans really are more conservative and that all the left gains have been massive, populist manipulations?
After all, when the GOP wheeled out the fossilized McCain and his loopy VP choice, most true republicans either got lock jaw or the impression of a hand on their face that tooks weeks to fade away. It was so obvious they were throwing the race. Then we got a replay with Romney who most knew in the beginning never had a chance. Was the GOP paid off so a black(ish) rookie senator could "Make History" and initiate a "Post-Racial" hope for the US?
And how has that worked out so far? Seems like the racial issues are worse than ever (though at least we all know now that it's the fault of old white guys). The economy is improving for everyone BUT the middle class, a fact that can't possibly be sustained. The 50 million or so children the US aborted legally have to be replaced with 3rd world immigrants or the economy will collapse. Even social security, a plan that Americans were forced into paying, is now being treated like a government gimme program, an "entitlement" like welfare, which it is NOT.
So please, tell me how this has all improved and will continue to improve with a democrat-based monoparty system in the US?
Grobbbbbbb
BRILLIANT!!!!!!! One of the best posts EVER on Topix!!!!!+++++1

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#5 Mar 18, 2013
Grob Hahn wrote:
What's really stupid is the latest assertion that republicans can't win anothe election unless they act more like democrats. It ignores the fact that it is the very difference that makes both parties necessary. If republicans act like democrats, what's the point? We'd become a single party nation devoid of the very checks and balances that keep the government from spiraling out of control. It keeps things like untested changes from morphing into management nightmares.
At the moment 30 US states have republican governors. How can that be? Could it be that Americans really are more conservative and that all the left gains have been massive, populist manipulations?
After all, when the GOP wheeled out the fossilized McCain and his loopy VP choice, most true republicans either got lock jaw or the impression of a hand on their face that tooks weeks to fade away. It was so obvious they were throwing the race. Then we got a replay with Romney who most knew in the beginning never had a chance. Was the GOP paid off so a black(ish) rookie senator could "Make History" and initiate a "Post-Racial" hope for the US?
And how has that worked out so far? Seems like the racial issues are worse than ever (though at least we all know now that it's the fault of old white guys). The economy is improving for everyone BUT the middle class, a fact that can't possibly be sustained. The 50 million or so children the US aborted legally have to be replaced with 3rd world immigrants or the economy will collapse. Even social security, a plan that Americans were forced into paying, is now being treated like a government gimme program, an "entitlement" like welfare, which it is NOT.
So please, tell me how this has all improved and will continue to improve with a democrat-based monoparty system in the US?
Grobbbbbbb
Great post. I will continue to say over and over that what we have in this country is a one party system disguised as a two party system. As long as this continues America will keep declining morally, ethically, and economically. This country needs at least two or more real political parties with actual differences in ideas and actions to stop this elitist socialist movement.
It is a waste of time and money to have two parties and they are both the same. They work hand in hand playing good cop, bad cop fooling the voters into thinking that they are at odds with each other as this country marches on to more socialism making the Washington Elite richer and more powerful.

“Yet another average white man.”

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#6 Mar 18, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
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Great post. I will continue to say over and over that what we have in this country is a one party system disguised as a two party system. As long as this continues America will keep declining morally, ethically, and economically. This country needs at least two or more real political parties with actual differences in ideas and actions to stop this elitist socialist movement.
It is a waste of time and money to have two parties and they are both the same. They work hand in hand playing good cop, bad cop fooling the voters into thinking that they are at odds with each other as this country marches on to more socialism making the Washington Elite richer and more powerful.

We lost the nation when politics became profit-based. We KNOW what the problem is and who is causing it all, but there is nobody to challenge it. We can't even get some basic resume information about the president without being called names and having the Whitehouse door slammed in our face.

You'd think more Americans would wake up to this, but it's just not so. If Obama manages to extend into 2016 and beyond, will Americans wake from their slumber? Probably not. Why? Well because a century ago we didn't have term limits and things were just fine (or at least that's the way it will be skewed).

In the mean time Americans are being robbed so this guy can play golf with Tiger while we're distracted by the crime wave being created by the uncontrolled release of non-American violent criminals. Even Americans who think they are "prepared" for when TSHTF will be singled out and cut down financially, publically and mentally. Those who beat the odds will simply be killed. For being "different". All of this has happened before.
Grobbbbbbb

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#7 Mar 18, 2013
There is NO END to self serving politicians. How do we stop it? We vote for whom we think will be different because they campaign that they WILL be. Of course, their campaigns are based on lies and deceit. We don't find out until it's too late. I think that even those who truly believe they are different, get caught up in the power and perks and all deals are off. We can vote them out, but there is a new crop of the same waiting in the wings. This has been going on for years and years. It has been, in some cases, a subtle progression. Other times, blantant. Personally, I think we are too far gone.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#8 Mar 18, 2013
Synergy wrote:
There is NO END to self serving politicians. How do we stop it? We vote for whom we think will be different because they campaign that they WILL be. Of course, their campaigns are based on lies and deceit. We don't find out until it's too late. I think that even those who truly believe they are different, get caught up in the power and perks and all deals are off. We can vote them out, but there is a new crop of the same waiting in the wings. This has been going on for years and years. It has been, in some cases, a subtle progression. Other times, blantant. Personally, I think we are too far gone.
AMEN.

Since: May 12

Roswell, GA

#9 Mar 18, 2013
One of the GOPs big problems is that of exclusivity. The GOPs fiscal policies get lost in all of their social policies. They don't like certain lifestyles, their old time religious and moral beliefs just don't jibe with anyone below a certian age.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#10 Mar 18, 2013
trystme wrote:
One of the GOPs big problems is that of exclusivity. The GOPs fiscal policies get lost in all of their social policies. They don't like certain lifestyles, their old time religious and moral beliefs just don't jibe with anyone below a certian age.
Morals and ethics never change just because you are young. Good is good. Bad is bad. Being a good person, being responsible, and doing what you are supposed to do never changes. If it does, than there is something very wrong with society and its thought patterns.
You sound like a young person that has just come out of college and hasn't quite grown up yet. Using your age to justify some of your selfish beliefs is misleading you. Believe me when I say that morals and ethics should never change regardless of how old you are.

Since: May 12

Roswell, GA

#11 Mar 18, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Morals and ethics never change just because you are young. Good is good. Bad is bad. Being a good person, being responsible, and doing what you are supposed to do never changes. If it does, than there is something very wrong with society and its thought patterns.
You sound like a young person that has just come out of college and hasn't quite grown up yet. Using your age to justify some of your selfish beliefs is misleading you. Believe me when I say that morals and ethics should never change regardless of how old you are.
Ummm, no I'm 44 years old.

Morals and ethics never change? How about slavery, the Crusades, what about Jim Crow laws? What about the woman's place is in the home and should not work? No mixed race dating? The majority used to agree that those were morally and ethically correct.

Now it is LGBT rights, gay marriage, abortions, birth control, equal pay for equal work, immigration, stem cell research, premarital sex, shacking up rather than marrying. The times are a changing but the GOP is not.

I agree with the Republican party of much of its fical policy. I want to see a balanced budget. I don't think that we should be spending more than we make, I don't run my household that way. But, even more than that I do not want the government to tell my daughter, my students, or our future generations that they are somehow unequal, unworthy, and undeserving because they do not fit into some arcane sense of what is "right" and "wrong."

“Yet another average white man.”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#12 Mar 18, 2013
trystme wrote:
One of the GOPs big problems is that of exclusivity. The GOPs fiscal policies get lost in all of their social policies. They don't like certain lifestyles, their old time religious and moral beliefs just don't jibe with anyone below a certian age.

Responsibility changes all of that. Not that everyone below "a certain age" (what IS that age by the way) lacks responsibility, particularly for themselves. From my own experience I can say that until I finally defined my career (not just a job), started a family, bought a home and paid off my college loans, I was a total slacker.

Once all those bills came due I quickly began to resent anyone who thought I should come off with a dime of it including the IRS, Salvation Army, Shriners and the church. While I'm more pragmatic than conservative (I don't care who gets married, offs their zygotes or smokes pot), I am not too keen on working my azz off just to watch a large percentage go to others without my having a word in the matter.

Yes, I think we need safety net programs, but I also think they should be scrutinized to keep the crooks and con artists out. I think politics has no place in our schools and that any educator who attempts it should be reprimanded. I don't agree with public unions since they are being "protected" from the people they are supposed to serve. How does that make any sense. I also don't think religion has any place in government.

But religion is not a conservative value. That's a common confusion since so many religions are actually quite conservative as are their members. Using the same logic, I don't think pot makes people stupid, it just seems that way because so many stupid people are also pot users!
Grobbbbbbbbbb

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#13 Mar 18, 2013
trystme wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm, no I'm 44 years old.
Morals and ethics never change? How about slavery, the Crusades, what about Jim Crow laws? What about the woman's place is in the home and should not work? No mixed race dating? The majority used to agree that those were morally and ethically correct.
Now it is LGBT rights, gay marriage, abortions, birth control, equal pay for equal work, immigration, stem cell research, premarital sex, shacking up rather than marrying. The times are a changing but the GOP is not.
I agree with the Republican party of much of its fical policy. I want to see a balanced budget. I don't think that we should be spending more than we make, I don't run my household that way. But, even more than that I do not want the government to tell my daughter, my students, or our future generations that they are somehow unequal, unworthy, and undeserving because they do not fit into some arcane sense of what is "right" and "wrong."
Somehow your reasoning places all those things that you mentioned as morals and ethics. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, and women not having rights. They were immoral then and they are now. They were unethical then and they are now. Times and ideas change but again morality and ethics do not. Is shacking up something moral? Has it ever been? Is it now because "everybody does it"? Could there be bad implications if there are children involved? Is it o.k. now to rob a bank because times are hard and lots of people rob banks? Common sense which is not very common anymore and any kind of decent upbringing should tell you right from wrong. We should know how to treat our fellow men and women fairly.
There has always been some that want to say that anything goes and anyone against that, is just an outdated old fart living in the past.
Some things do need to change not because it is the modern thing to do but because it is right thing to do or more efficient.
Obama's slogan "Change", was a stupid slogan. Change is not always good. If it works well then leave it alone. Your house may catch on fire and burn down leaving you no place to live. You lose everything. Well that is change. Not all change is good. Some loved one dies. Well that changes things. But not to the better. You lost someone for good. Just to change things to change things is foolish and unwise.
One can be open minded and do what is correct, or a hip lets change everything type so called modern day person. Which one are you?
People now talk of the National Debt. Almost 17 trillion dollars in the hole. The new thinking economists say the debt can safely go to 22 trillion dollars. Most common sense economists know that type of change is bad and we will go totally bankrupt if we don't bring our spending under control. Most common people think that also. Do we want to change all concepts of economics and try to go to 22 trillion in debt just because this administration says it is O.K. to change?
I think I have made my point.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#14 Mar 18, 2013
Nothing will change until we:
1. have term limits (Until then, politicians will only be interested in getting reelected.)
2. control spending.
3. keep religion out of government

*ANY teacher who expresses her/his personal political and/or religious views to a classroom full of young developing minds should be fired on the spot! That includes preschool through college. College profs always have and always will try to intimidate students with their extreme left agenda. They should have their teaching credentials pulled unless they are teaching in a "religious" backed institution. By that, I mean that the students are aware what they are signing up for.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#15 Mar 18, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Somehow your reasoning places all those things that you mentioned as morals and ethics. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, and women not having rights. They were immoral then and they are now. They were unethical then and they are now. Times and ideas change but again morality and ethics do not. Is shacking up something moral? Has it ever been? Is it now because "everybody does it"? Could there be bad implications if there are children involved? Is it o.k. now to rob a bank because times are hard and lots of people rob banks? Common sense which is not very common anymore and any kind of decent upbringing should tell you right from wrong. We should know how to treat our fellow men and women fairly.
There has always been some that want to say that anything goes and anyone against that, is just an outdated old fart living in the past.
Some things do need to change not because it is the modern thing to do but because it is right thing to do or more efficient.
Obama's slogan "Change", was a stupid slogan. Change is not always good. If it works well then leave it alone. Your house may catch on fire and burn down leaving you no place to live. You lose everything. Well that is change. Not all change is good. Some loved one dies. Well that changes things. But not to the better. You lost someone for good. Just to change things to change things is foolish and unwise.
One can be open minded and do what is correct, or a hip lets change everything type so called modern day person. Which one are you?
People now talk of the National Debt. Almost 17 trillion dollars in the hole. The new thinking economists say the debt can safely go to 22 trillion dollars. Most common sense economists know that type of change is bad and we will go totally bankrupt if we don't bring our spending under control. Most common people think that also. Do we want to change all concepts of economics and try to go to 22 trillion in debt just because this administration says it is O.K. to change?
I think I have made my point.
VERY well said, Bigdave!+++1

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#16 Mar 18, 2013
trystme wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm, no I'm 44 years old.
Morals and ethics never change? How about slavery, the Crusades, what about Jim Crow laws? What about the woman's place is in the home and should not work? No mixed race dating? The majority used to agree that those were morally and ethically correct.
Now it is LGBT rights, gay marriage, abortions, birth control, equal pay for equal work, immigration, stem cell research, premarital sex, shacking up rather than marrying. The times are a changing but the GOP is not.
I agree with the Republican party of much of its fical policy. I want to see a balanced budget. I don't think that we should be spending more than we make, I don't run my household that way. But, even more than that I do not want the government to tell my daughter, my students, or our future generations that they are somehow unequal, unworthy, and undeserving because they do not fit into some arcane sense of what is "right" and "wrong."
You've mentioned before that you are a teacher. What age group do you or have you taught?
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#17 Mar 18, 2013
Personally I like results. I get frustrated when I don't see results. When I don't see results, I think we need change.
Change wasn't a stupid slogan. Change got him elected. The problem was he ran a hope and change campaign without a hope and change plan.

“Yet another average white man.”

Since: Jun 11

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#18 Mar 18, 2013
trystme wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm, no I'm 44 years old.
Morals and ethics never change? How about slavery, the Crusades, what about Jim Crow laws? What about the woman's place is in the home and should not work? No mixed race dating? The majority used to agree that those were morally and ethically correct.
Now it is LGBT rights, gay marriage, abortions, birth control, equal pay for equal work, immigration, stem cell research, premarital sex, shacking up rather than marrying. The times are a changing but the GOP is not.
I agree with the Republican party of much of its fical policy. I want to see a balanced budget. I don't think that we should be spending more than we make, I don't run my household that way. But, even more than that I do not want the government to tell my daughter, my students, or our future generations that they are somehow unequal, unworthy, and undeserving because they do not fit into some arcane sense of what is "right" and "wrong."

It's interesting that you bring up Jim Crow since it was brought about by democrats. Democrats also fought republicans for bringing up the Civil Right act including Strom Thurmond who literally read the phone book in an attempt to defeat it via filibuster. You lay a lot at the feet of the GOP and ignore the misdeeds of the other side when most of us know that both major parties are guilty of screwing things up throughout history. Also it was Truman, a democrat, who ordered the atomic bombing of Japan.

If you are going to take all of your information from one side, you aren't experiencing the truth. Want another? Statistics are commonly spouted that most pedophiles are "White men with wives and children". If you stop there, it looks like "white men with wives and children" are some kind of high risk group who should be nowhere near other people's kids.

Nobody wants to talk about the fact that MOST "white men with wives and children" are NOT pedophiles. See what I mean? If you only present one side, the subject can be seriously skewed.
Grobbbbbbbb

Since: May 12

Douglasville, GA

#19 Mar 18, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
You've mentioned before that you are a teacher. What age group do you or have you taught?
I teach high school. No, I do not tell them my political views.

Since: Jul 12

Lithia Springs, GA

#20 Mar 18, 2013
What is beginning to worry me is the constant drone of voices saying we must have all this change. This multitude of voices sound like a scripted chorus from the communist, socialist, Democratic party. They even talk that the Constitution must be changed as it is too old. Well the damn thing has worked just fine for 200 years until corrupt judges and politicians have abused it or paid no attention to it.
These same people scream of change but they are taking away our freedom, and economic security. They want to change our total ways of life in the name of saving the earth which is mostly false or unproven. They want to change almost everything we do and how we think. They want to change the way we eat and make men into women and change women into men.
This chorus of change always has some great thing that they are saving or some great thing it is going to do for the kids, or mankind. They always have all the reasons and clever answers for everything but they make no common sense.
I feel this to be a great plan to CHANGE America for good and I don't see this CHANGE as good. It is a new propaganda ploy being feed to America through the News Media and the Democratic Socialist Party.

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