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Susan

Douglasville, GA

#1 Jan 8, 2013
With the tragedy in Ct. in mind should we have school police officers in all our schools. How much would that cost?

Since: Mar 11

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#2 Jan 8, 2013
We already have police officers at our schools.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#3 Jan 8, 2013
Would make more sense than those proposed gun laws but I don't know how much it would cost.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#4 Jan 8, 2013
NYC718 wrote:
We already have police officers at our schools.
Are you talking about Douglasville, I don't think they do except maybe at the high schools. I am sure not the elementary schools.
I KNOW

Duluth, GA

#5 Jan 8, 2013
All schools in Douglas county have either a deputy or officer (armed) in ever school
frank

Carrollton, GA

#6 Jan 8, 2013
they need a drug sniffing dog.. more drugs in douglas county schools than you could haul off in a wheel barrow.

Since: Mar 11

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#7 Jan 8, 2013
Robert wrote:
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Are you talking about Douglasville, I don't think they do except maybe at the high schools. I am sure not the elementary schools.
Yes I'm talking about Douglasville. I know the High schools and middle schools do for sure. The elementary school I believe so. I think the elementary school as well. I think they have the Blast program or something like that.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#8 Jan 9, 2013
I KNOW wrote:
All schools in Douglas county have either a deputy or officer (armed) in ever school
I don't think so, they have them at the high school and middle school and the Blast Officers at the Elementary Schools but there are 19 elementary schools and i believe 6 blast officers.

I believe like many counties we don't have a presence at every elementary school only an officer on call or one who visits often. I think we need one at every elementary school now. We pay a lot of school taxes here and our children deserve that.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#9 Jan 9, 2013
If several teachers were armed police wouldn't be needed.
Face it, the truth is the most unsafe place to be walking around is a gun free zone where the insane and criminals know you can't defend yourself from them. They don't want to be shot anymore than you or I.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#10 Jan 9, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
If several teachers were armed police wouldn't be needed.
Face it, the truth is the most unsafe place to be walking around is a gun free zone where the insane and criminals know you can't defend yourself from them. They don't want to be shot anymore than you or I.
That is the truth, I would hate the feeling of being a teacher or administrator at one of these schools knowing that if I wanted to have protection available to protect myself and my children I would be the felon.

The law needs to change so that the few who might have both the desire and the qualification to be armed could be. If money is an issue I have seen jurisdictions use retired police officers to fill in places, ones who attend the same firearms training as active officers. You simply hire several part timers and then don't have to pay for extra benefits making it affordable for all schools.

I just think it is time that someone with a gun secure our schools, it is just common sense, you see it at some banks and various businesses schools need to be added to the list.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#11 Jan 9, 2013
Robert wrote:
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That is the truth, I would hate the feeling of being a teacher or administrator at one of these schools knowing that if I wanted to have protection available to protect myself and my children I would be the felon.
The law needs to change so that the few who might have both the desire and the qualification to be armed could be. If money is an issue I have seen jurisdictions use retired police officers to fill in places, ones who attend the same firearms training as active officers. You simply hire several part timers and then don't have to pay for extra benefits making it affordable for all schools.
I just think it is time that someone with a gun secure our schools, it is just common sense, you see it at some banks and various businesses schools need to be added to the list.


It has become obvious that the governments elite want to disarm its law abiding citizens.
The criminals will still have guns. The insane will find a way to kill us no matter what.
The government and police will still have guns.
The rich and elite, which includes our politicians will have guns.
Also the politicians and elite will have armed bodyguards and security which we will not have.
If Americas law abiding citizens are disarmed then how can we protect ourselves, family, property, or schools from harm from any of those listed above?
Lewholt

Atlanta, GA

#12 Jan 15, 2013
Susan wrote:
With the tragedy in Ct. in mind should we have school police officers in all our schools. How much would that cost?
I think I saw a number like 50 million or so.
Lewholt

Atlanta, GA

#13 Jan 15, 2013
You have to be aresponsible gun owner too. You don't let a mentally ill kid play violent video games all day and teach him how to shoot automatic weapons and then leave them unlocked. Course, his mother learned that lesson the hard way.

Since: Nov 08

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#14 Jan 15, 2013
Lewholt wrote:
You have to be aresponsible gun owner too. You don't let a mentally ill kid play violent video games all day and teach him how to shoot automatic weapons and then leave them unlocked. Course, his mother learned that lesson the hard way.
+1 Completely logical. Looks as if his mother could have figured THAT one out.
OH BOO HOO

Douglasville, GA

#15 Jan 16, 2013
Why don't we touch on the real reason for all these shootings. These kids are of a generation where they could not be disciplined in ways of spanking (Dr. Spock said it damages them put them in timeout, Oh his son killed himself!) They could not be told their team lost, they were given trophies and told they were great (when they sucked), Rules for playing games were changed, neither team won or lost, no score was kept, everyone gets a sticker and praise. This is not reality, not the real world out there. You do all these things then your child goes into a job or college and fails because he was never taught real life situations.They freak out, they arent mentally ill, thats just a cop out! There are families that have 10 kids by 10 different dads, they are being raised by grandparents or aunts. There is violence every where, video games, movies, the news is full of it, its in their back yard. When I was raised in the 60's and 70's you were spanked, you were told you weren't good enough to make the team, they picked allstars for a team and the best were selected, you had mom and dad at the dinner table to discuss what happened that day. Mom cooked a good balanced dinner and we all ate together, you married then had babies! Good lord GUNS are not the problem, the government telling us how we can discipline our kids and parents not being parents are the problem!!! This kind of stuff never happened 25-30 years ago and guess what families had guns! They were not locked up, they were not put away and no young adult took one and shot up a school! There was bullying, you met at the flag pole and settled it, then you were best friends the next day! If we had our standards and morales of 25 years ago there would be no problems. I wish someone in congress had the balls to address it this way!

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#16 Jan 16, 2013
Lewholt wrote:
You have to be aresponsible gun owner too. You don't let a mentally ill kid play violent video games all day and teach him how to shoot automatic weapons and then leave them unlocked. Course, his mother learned that lesson the hard way.
His mother learned nothing as the kid killed her. It is illegal to own a automatic weapon without a special license from the Federal Government.
Most honest law abiding gun owners are responsible with their guns. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the whole barrel. Responsible gun owners are now classified as bad irresponsible people by those that have no actual knowledge of firearms and the facts that pertain to them. These people either have an agenda to disarm the people of this country or to be elitist that are the only ones to have guns or bodyguards that carry guns to protect them.
Guns are an inanimate object which do not think or do bad things. They can be used for the good of mankind or used against mankind.
Without them evil would surely control the world and we would be unsafe without them to protect us and our families.
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#17 Jan 16, 2013
The number one problem has to do with space and place. Too many born at the same, or almost the same time. baby boomers.

The stress was overlooked, ignored, you are in this on your own mentality. We are the first generation of the social decline.

Then came divorce. Then came the next generation, blended families, and urban sprawl, and we lost the connections that we used to depend upon, pre baby boomers. Our grand parents didn't have the issues we have today. They had neighbors. They had people living and helping each other. I see the change on the street I currently live on. The neighbors, the older ones, all take care of each other. Check on each other. The down side is everybody knows your business too, but there is a connection. That doesn't exist in so many neighborhoods today. The rules in families are different, we are split between homes, Dad's and Mom's, then came the next generation and the children decided, why bother? Let's just have the kids first, then if it works out, we shall marry. Our society is chaotic because our families declined into chaos. I am not speaking about a particular family, but more as a system of decline over 30 + years.
So the truth is that the baby boomer generation is the first generation of this mess, and social decline. It takes three generations to get to wipe out. We are in the third generation since the baby boomers. I am a baby boomer, so I know the time frame and what it was like when we were kids. It was different, but I don't think we are off the hook. I think we are the beginning of it.
OH BOO HOO

Douglasville, GA

#18 Jan 16, 2013
We don't know what his mom went through before she died. Maybe she had the guns locked up and he broke into them. He may have held a knife to her throat and threatened her until she opened the safe she may have had them in. She knew he had problems, we don't if she had them locked up or not! Don't judge the mom, we know nothing about her and what she may have lived through.
Bigdave1 wrote:
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His mother learned nothing as the kid killed her. It is illegal to own a automatic weapon without a special license from the Federal Government.
Most honest law abiding gun owners are responsible with their guns. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the whole barrel. Responsible gun owners are now classified as bad irresponsible people by those that have no actual knowledge of firearms and the facts that pertain to them. These people either have an agenda to disarm the people of this country or to be elitist that are the only ones to have guns or bodyguards that carry guns to protect them.
Guns are an inanimate object which do not think or do bad things. They can be used for the good of mankind or used against mankind.
Without them evil would surely control the world and we would be unsafe without them to protect us and our families.
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#19 Jan 16, 2013
Missing from this entire conversation are issues related to why these events suddenly happen.

First, most mentally ill folks do not take out guns and kill. When we begin tracking them, then we will deter people from seeking help.

Crazy people do not pick up guns and kill, and viewing the problem this way is shortsighted. Yes, it is crazy to do such an act, but the person may or may not have been crazy.

People who harm self and or others are desperate. They are feeling hopeless and helpless. They have access to the weapons when they are feeling these thoughts. These are changing feelings. It might move from a fleeting thought, to a more determined thought, to an act. There isn't a person among us, who hasn't had at least some fleeting thought. It may have passed, or not. It may be admitted or not, but to view this as a permanent type of thought, isn't accurate.

As long as we view these acts as occurring from "crazy folks", "evil", or "mentally ill", we can't begin to address the problem. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the acts weren't crazy, evil, or mentally ill, what I am saying is the fundamental problem is the simultaneous feelings of helplessness and hopelessness and access to weapons to carry out the act. It is an access problem. Access to resources and supports. Access to weapons. Open access to solutions, and we can better address.

I don't like guns, and they aren't going to "protect my private property, in my current situation", but to make the conversation about removing guns from those who do, because they seek treatment, as a permanent you can never own a gun, is not going to solve our problem, and I don't think bringing them into the schools will either. Both proposals are going to add another layer and make this problem worse.

Since: Nov 12

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#20 Jan 16, 2013
OH BOO HOO wrote:
This kind of stuff never happened 25-30 years ago and guess what families had guns!
Never? Or is it more truthful to say people have been going mental with guns ever since guns were able to be mass produced?

I'm pretty sure I could find examples of school shootings from every decade since the 60s

You pine for the so-called good old days but allow me to let you in on a little secret. There were no good old days.

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