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Ball 'No' Longer Undecided About Gay Marriage Bill

There are 19 comments on the The Daily East Chester story from Jun 24, 2011, titled Ball 'No' Longer Undecided About Gay Marriage Bill. In it, The Daily East Chester reports that:

State Senator Greg Ball announced Thursday night that he will not be supporting the same-sex marriage legislation even though he said he believes marriage equality will likely pass in New York State regardless.

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Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1 Jun 24, 2011
I guess there is just not enough discrimination written into the bill to satisfy his religious beliefs.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#2 Jun 24, 2011
I guess supporting families and the basic legal rights of law abiding taxpayers just isn't a concern.
mainelygay

Biddeford, ME

#3 Jun 24, 2011
What a loser! People's rights and equality hang in the balance and this guy does not care one way or the other it's only about how much media attention he can grab. He NEVER intended to vote anything other than - NO! He made sure (at everybody's expense) that he got lots of press pretending he hadn't made up his mind.

Perhaps the next vote can be whether he is equal to the task of representing others. I for one think he needs to get his butt voted out the next time around he doesn't deserve to represent anyone!

“Created Equal”

Since: Feb 08

USA

#4 Jun 24, 2011
In other words, Senator Ball, you can see where New Yorkers want to go, and in fact will go, and that's not the direction you want to go.

Well Senator Ball, I have a news flash for you. Politicians who stand on the wrong side of issues, who stand in the way of equal rights, who represent purely religious interests instead of representing the people of the state; those politicians politicians can go home and write books that nobody will read about how America is crumbling to pieces.

Everyone else is ready to move on, to do what is right, and to free themselves from the puritanical religious oppression which has been cause for so much evil in our nation's short and storied history. You want to pray, sing hymns, and put money in the collection plate... knock yourself out. But no church has the authority to relegate people to second-class citizenship.

Not in New York, not in America. And we're getting fed up with you and your GOP buddies in the Party of No. Frankly, who the hell do you think you are?

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#5 Jun 24, 2011
But he thinks it will pass anyway?? What does that mean? Pass today? Does he know something we don't about how some of his fellow crusaders from the Middle Ages will vote?
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#6 Jun 24, 2011
eJohn wrote:
But he thinks it will pass anyway?? What does that mean? Pass today? Does he know something we don't about how some of his fellow crusaders from the Middle Ages will vote?
From what I read today, there are no more than enough Republicanas supporting the bill for it to pass easily.

But many other bills, such as concerning rents, and property taxes, have not been agreed to and passed yet. And Skelos says that he will not allow the Marriage Equality bill to come up for a vote until all of the other bills are passed first.

Furthermore, Skelos is against the Marriage Equality bill, and as Senate Majority Leader, I believe he can stop any bill from coming to the floor for a vote, that he wants to.

So I am unfortunately pessimistic that the Marriage Equality bill will even be allwed to ve voted on.

:(

And Obamaniac® coming to a group of gay and lesbian people last nite and asking for millions of dollars, and FLAT OUT REFUSING to support Equal Marriage Rights for gay and lesbian Americans, is certianly a slap in the face. And shows you the chutzpah this community organizer has.

Throw Stumblebum Joe in there !

NEXT !

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#7 Jun 24, 2011
I guess Senator Ball TRULY HAS NO BALLS to do the right thing.....how utterly pathetic!!!

I agree with Scotty.......if he wants to give his money to the Church......knock himself out......but to stall this legislation because HE doesn't feel that the Church is being protected ENOUGH.........well, that's just UNACCEPTABLE and he should be targeted for removal in 2012!!!

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#8 Jun 24, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
<quoted text>
From what I read today, there are no more than enough Republicanas supporting the bill for it to pass easily.
But many other bills, such as concerning rents, and property taxes, have not been agreed to and passed yet. And Skelos says that he will not allow the Marriage Equality bill to come up for a vote until all of the other bills are passed first.
Furthermore, Skelos is against the Marriage Equality bill, and as Senate Majority Leader, I believe he can stop any bill from coming to the floor for a vote, that he wants to.
So I am unfortunately pessimistic that the Marriage Equality bill will even be allwed to ve voted on.
:(
Isn't Skelos a Republican? So, if this bill doesn't come to the floor for a vote.......wouldn't that mean it would be the REPUBLICANS fault for not passing?

I think The Governor WILL keep them in session UNTIL this bill gets passed!!!

JMPO though!!!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#9 Jun 24, 2011
At least we know Sen Ball needs to be targeted for replacement in 2012.

I imagine the Senate will be in session all weekend and into next week so they can continue to stall on a vote.

“Created Equal”

Since: Feb 08

USA

#10 Jun 24, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
<quoted text>
From what I read today, there are no more than enough Republicanas supporting the bill for it to pass easily.
But many other bills, such as concerning rents, and property taxes, have not been agreed to and passed yet. And Skelos says that he will not allow the Marriage Equality bill to come up for a vote until all of the other bills are passed first.
Furthermore, Skelos is against the Marriage Equality bill, and as Senate Majority Leader, I believe he can stop any bill from coming to the floor for a vote, that he wants to.
So I am unfortunately pessimistic that the Marriage Equality bill will even be allwed to ve voted on.
:(
And Obamaniac® coming to a group of gay and lesbian people last nite and asking for millions of dollars, and FLAT OUT REFUSING to support Equal Marriage Rights for gay and lesbian Americans, is certianly a slap in the face. And shows you the chutzpah this community organizer has.
Throw Stumblebum Joe in there !
NEXT !
Yes, Skelos is a Republican, and he opposes the bill. But! He needs the cooperation of the governor and the democrats to move his own agenda, and that's part of the wheeling and dealing of politics.

He has pledged that he will call the vote on this bill, likely in exchange for something he needs from Democrats, but who knows what and when.

After the tax cap and the rent control bills are passed, this bill will get to the floor. But those bills were reported to be done deals on Wednesday, so I'm wondering what was being debated all day yesterday.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#11 Jun 24, 2011
As I understand the score, there's only one undeclared senator on this issue. And if he votes for equality, it's a tie. Evidently, there would be some legal awkwardness and lots of political controversy for the lieutenant governor to step in and break that tie. It's a shame that the best hope we now have is such a tainted process.

My observation is that anyone who's undecided at this point knows what the right and moral action is, but he just can't bring himself to buck the party. I'd say he's holding out to try to avoid making his decision public.

With only one senator left to influence, the Republicans are undboubtedly making mince meat of his grasp on ethics.

As for Senator Ball, I think he's playing from the same Republican rule book that has so successfully impeded President Obama's agenda: Pretend to negotiate until you get every last concession you can possibly get, then walk away from the table. When negotations open again, they start with all the concessions that have already been made and move your way from there. If you're really successful, you can move so far from the equality-proponents goal that they will no longer be able to hold their noses and vote for the end result.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#12 Jun 24, 2011
Even though the news organizations are once again reporting that a decision on a marriage vote will come today, the Senate still isn't in session. Probably not a good sign.
Frank Stanton

Omaha, NE

#13 Jun 24, 2011
i knew this would fail. the united states of ameriKKKa hates gay people. get used to it!:)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#14 Jun 24, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
i knew this would fail. the united states of ameriKKKa hates gay people. get used to it!:)
It hasn't failed yet.

Lastest reports from the GOP are that they don't want this to drag into the weekend, so a decision is likely today on whether or not to have a vote.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#15 Jun 24, 2011
nhjeff wrote:
As I understand the score, there's only one undeclared senator on this issue. And if he votes for equality, it's a tie. Evidently, there would be some legal awkwardness and lots of political controversy for the lieutenant governor to step in and break that tie. It's a shame that the best hope we now have is such a tainted process......
Have you seen something that says there is only on undecided vote? Last I read, there were two or three undecided, but several more who wouldn't say one way or the other, suggesting that they might be a yes vote yet.

I'm getting really frustrated trying to stay on top of the current news about this as so many Internet new sites keep regurgitating stories that are a week or more old and dating them as if they happened today. REALLY annoying.....
Frank Stanton

Omaha, NE

#16 Jun 24, 2011
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you seen something that says there is only on undecided vote? Last I read, there were two or three undecided, but several more who wouldn't say one way or the other, suggesting that they might be a yes vote yet.
I'm getting really frustrated trying to stay on top of the current news about this as so many Internet new sites keep regurgitating stories that are a week or more old and dating them as if they happened today. REALLY annoying.....
the united states of ameriKKKa is annoying, isn't it.
EWWW

United States

#18 Jun 29, 2011
Comments about America being annoying?! Really? Americans today are the furthest thing from the 1960's KKK? America is the melting pot! Very accepting to most everything! But gay marriage is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! I'm not religious at all, but its going against natures way! My husband seems to feel like its a birth defect. I on the other hand, thinks its a fad. Its not real. Its too disgusting to be real. To put it bluntly, if I wanna play with a pair of "knockers" and a "box" I'll play with my own. I've been called closed minded for NEVER touching another woman! Wtf! I found boys/man attractive since I was a little girl! Yes, marriage is about loving and wanting to spend your life with that person, but to also raise a family. The dream of grandchildren one day. What's going to be the legacy now? "Hi, I'm a wife in a relationship and my wife, paid for sperm...or I'm a in a husband/husband relationship and we adopted so we teach our kids its ok to be gay?!" ::rolls eyes::
EWWW

United States

#19 Jun 29, 2011
If your willing to accept such twisted sh*t then I guess its ok for perverts who like kiddy porn, or take the next step and go the distance? Incest? Rape? Murder? Ugh. Raunchy freaks!
jim frank

United States

#20 Jun 29, 2011
Our four fathers never would given any weight to such a topic as homosexuality. It has no justification. If it was so acceptable it would have already been made so.

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