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Lansing-area girl found after Amber Alert

There are 51 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Oct 29, 2008, titled Lansing-area girl found after Amber Alert. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

An Amber Alert is canceled after a five-year-old little girl was found Wednesday morning.

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“michigan weather?!?”

Since: Apr 08

middleville mi

#1 Oct 29, 2008
good she is found safe
marie

Pinehill, NM

#2 Oct 29, 2008
i am glad she was found safe!

my first thought when i saw this on tv last night was, another MI father, fed up with the mother of his child not allowing him to see her, and FOC not doing anything about it... i dont know if this is the case or not, but it was my first thought.
Wondering

Boulder, CO

#3 Oct 29, 2008
why this became an Amber alert when they knew right where to locate the little girl.

Glad she was found unharmed....and maybe couseling is needed for this family before they have a messed up little girl!
bone

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Oct 29, 2008
COOL
ron mexico

Westphalia, MI

#5 Oct 29, 2008
Wondering wrote:
why this became an Amber alert when they knew right where to locate the little girl.
Glad she was found unharmed....and maybe couseling is needed for this family before they have a messed up little girl!
Because the article state the man who took her was considered extremely dangerous-would be my guess.
Wendy

Greenville, MI

#6 Oct 29, 2008
I have a problem with the courts saying a father doesn't have a right to take his daughter even though are "custody rights" in place. A friend of mines wife just packed up her kids and moved out while he was at work, his kids are his LIFE. If HE had taken his kids there would be a damn Amber Alert out, but it's totally ok for her to just pack them up and take off without him even knowing. I think the Friend of the Court really needs some re-organizing and people who work there that want to actually HELP fathers be able to spend time with their children also. I think parents should each have 50/50 custody IF possible (unless there is some sort of abuse going on to the child). My ex and I do week by week custody and it works great for the both of us, and we don't have to deal with the friend of the court telling us what to do with our children. He doesn't pay me child support (I have never wanted it) and we each pay for the things our children need at our homes and split their other needs down the middle. It's so much easier to get along than to fight and argue.
Wendy

Greenville, MI

#7 Oct 29, 2008
marie wrote:
i am glad she was found safe!
my first thought when i saw this on tv last night was, another MI father, fed up with the mother of his child not allowing him to see her, and FOC not doing anything about it... i dont know if this is the case or not, but it was my first thought.
Maybe Mothers should let the Fathers see THEIR children just as much as they do too. If I were a Father I too would be fed up! The father's helped make these children and have just as much right to spend time with them as the Mother's do, unless there is some sort of sexual or physical abuse going on! The FOC is a joke, they could give a crap less about the children involved in these cases, if they DID care they would make sure that children had BOTH of their parents in their lives and make sure they spent time with both of their parents equally. I understand the FOC will only take the Mother's rights from her if she is deemed an unfit Mother; however, the Father should have his rights yanked and only be able to see his children every other weekend because they divorce or split up either...People need to think about the CHILDREN, they need BOTH parents in their lives, not part-time parents every other weekend! Just my opinion.
Ryan

Falls Church, VA

#8 Oct 29, 2008
Wondering wrote:
why this became an Amber alert when they knew right where to locate the little girl.
Glad she was found unharmed....and maybe couseling is needed for this family before they have a messed up little girl!
Obviously, they didn't know where she was or they wouldn't of had the alert.

“batshit crazy”

Since: Sep 08

boca do inferno

#9 Oct 29, 2008
Wendy wrote:
My ex and I do week by week custody and it works great for the both of us, and we don't have to deal with the friend of the court telling us what to do with our children. He doesn't pay me child support (I have never wanted it) and we each pay for the things our children need at our homes and split their other needs down the middle. It's so much easier to get along than to fight and argue.
Yours truly sounds like an ideal situation both for you and for the children. Unfortunately, too many parents are too bitter, too angry, too selfish to be able to agree to terms like that. I wish more custody situations could be solved peacefully and cordially like yours.

“Livin and Lovin Life”

Since: Jul 08

Hudsonville

#10 Oct 29, 2008
Wendy wrote:
I have a problem with the courts saying a father doesn't have a right to take his daughter even though are "custody rights" in place. A friend of mines wife just packed up her kids and moved out while he was at work, his kids are his LIFE. If HE had taken his kids there would be a damn Amber Alert out, but it's totally ok for her to just pack them up and take off without him even knowing. I think the Friend of the Court really needs some re-organizing and people who work there that want to actually HELP fathers be able to spend time with their children also. I think parents should each have 50/50 custody IF possible (unless there is some sort of abuse going on to the child). My ex and I do week by week custody and it works great for the both of us, and we don't have to deal with the friend of the court telling us what to do with our children. He doesn't pay me child support (I have never wanted it) and we each pay for the things our children need at our homes and split their other needs down the middle. It's so much easier to get along than to fight and argue.
i agree with that... if only it could work that way! my husbands ex has an excuse every weekend we should have my step daughter. that makes it very rough. the only time we have actually had her according to the order, was when he got an extra check and gave her a money order toward extra winter things. then it went off with out any snags. he gets so frustrated, and we have sent in complant after complant. nothing has happened... i can understand where guys (and gals) could go crazy with this system!
Mitzi

Caledonia, MI

#11 Oct 29, 2008
I am concerned that people are starting to use the Amber Alert as a tool to play "gotcha". Enough times of calling wolf and it will become useless as a means of finding children at risk in a fast manner.
It will end up like the charges of child abuse and sexual harrasment that have been so missuesed that those that really need it will not get the help they need.

Marilyn
Candy

Aurora, CO

#12 Oct 29, 2008
It's the fathers who care that get a bad rap and can't see their children. We must remember that sometimes the mother has to hold all the burden of a break up of a bad dad, like dad owing thousands in child support, not even wanting to see the children, and the mother left to deal with all the up bringing and all the financial problems. I think FOC sometimes over charges dads and makes it so difficult for them. My kids father is one of them I just explained. They could never find him for 20 years, but could always find me to send a letter of how far behind he was. Hum, who did they really want to find?
Mike in BC

United States

#13 Oct 29, 2008
katieomarie wrote:
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i agree with that... if only it could work that way! my husbands ex has an excuse every weekend we should have my step daughter. that makes it very rough. the only time we have actually had her according to the order, was when he got an extra check and gave her a money order toward extra winter things. then it went off with out any snags. he gets so frustrated, and we have sent in complant after complant. nothing has happened... i can understand where guys (and gals) could go crazy with this system!
Then there is the other side, where the "fathers" want to be 'drop-in dads' and only see their kids when it's convenient- they don't want to be dependable, reliable, or responsible, then complain that they can't see their kids when they want. I am dealing with this for my step kid. Zero contact from dad for months, even years, then he wants to show up whenever he wants and expect the red carpet treatment.

Then, after a month or three of spotty contact at best, he falls off the face of the earth- leaving his mom and me to pick up the million little pieces of his son's shattered little heart. We are the ones who have to deal with the questions. We are the ones who have to try to figure out a way to explain to a 9 year old why his irresponsible, lazy, selfish, thoughtles sperm donor of a 'father' hasn't talked to him in months. We have to deal with a little boy's pain and heartache. We have to deal with the school when his grades drop and he acts out in class. We have to listen to him blame his mom because he doesn't understand.

Then, just when we get to a point of rebuilding his young life to a place he is doing good again, dear ol' daddy shows up and the whole chain reaction starts all over again.

That's why the FOC tells dads like him that they need to be proven reliable, dependable, and consistent before they will enforce a visitation order. That's why my wife told 'daddy' that she will not allow his son's little heart to be broken again.

Granted, some women are mean and vindictive, and I wish FOC would be less of a Friend of the Skirt and do what's right. But, a lot of what they deal with is drop-in dads. Those are the ones who give a bad name to the good ones.
Wendy

Greenville, MI

#14 Oct 29, 2008
katieomarie wrote:
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i agree with that... if only it could work that way! my husbands ex has an excuse every weekend we should have my step daughter. that makes it very rough. the only time we have actually had her according to the order, was when he got an extra check and gave her a money order toward extra winter things. then it went off with out any snags. he gets so frustrated, and we have sent in complant after complant. nothing has happened... i can understand where guys (and gals) could go crazy with this system!
If I were your husband I would just keep complaining and take her butt to court. Make sure you both keep records in a notebook and it will eventually prove that she is being spiteful towards your husband. I cannot stand mother's who use their children to get what they want, and that is what your husband's ex sounds like!
Wendy

Greenville, MI

#15 Oct 29, 2008
Mike in BC wrote:
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Then there is the other side, where the "fathers" want to be 'drop-in dads' and only see their kids when it's convenient- they don't want to be dependable, reliable, or responsible, then complain that they can't see their kids when they want. I am dealing with this for my step kid. Zero contact from dad for months, even years, then he wants to show up whenever he wants and expect the red carpet treatment.
Then, after a month or three of spotty contact at best, he falls off the face of the earth- leaving his mom and me to pick up the million little pieces of his son's shattered little heart. We are the ones who have to deal with the questions. We are the ones who have to try to figure out a way to explain to a 9 year old why his irresponsible, lazy, selfish, thoughtles sperm donor of a 'father' hasn't talked to him in months. We have to deal with a little boy's pain and heartache. We have to deal with the school when his grades drop and he acts out in class. We have to listen to him blame his mom because he doesn't understand.
Then, just when we get to a point of rebuilding his young life to a place he is doing good again, dear ol' daddy shows up and the whole chain reaction starts all over again.
That's why the FOC tells dads like him that they need to be proven reliable, dependable, and consistent before they will enforce a visitation order. That's why my wife told 'daddy' that she will not allow his son's little heart to be broken again.
Granted, some women are mean and vindictive, and I wish FOC would be less of a Friend of the Skirt and do what's right. But, a lot of what they deal with is drop-in dads. Those are the ones who give a bad name to the good ones.
I think before the court gives custody to EITHER parent I think BOTH parents and child(ren) should have to go to family counseling and learn how to deal with these types of issues. I know many "drop in" dads, but I also know a lot more dads who REALLY want to spend time with their children and cannot because of their exes being vindictive and spiteful. It's not fair to a child to spend more time with a step parent than their real parent who actually WANTS to spend time with them!
Wendy

Greenville, MI

#16 Oct 29, 2008
mad kangaroo wrote:
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Yours truly sounds like an ideal situation both for you and for the children. Unfortunately, too many parents are too bitter, too angry, too selfish to be able to agree to terms like that. I wish more custody situations could be solved peacefully and cordially like yours.
I wish more custody situations could be solved peacefully also...I think both parents and the child or children involved should all have to attend family counseling TOGETHER and individually until they can learn to be at peace with their problems and they can ALL get along! Hell, I am friends with my exes wife, and my ex is friends with husband, we make it a point to put the kids FIRST...that is how it should ALWAYS be.

“batshit crazy”

Since: Sep 08

boca do inferno

#17 Oct 29, 2008
Wendy wrote:
<quoted text>I wish more custody situations could be solved peacefully also...I think both parents and the child or children involved should all have to attend family counseling TOGETHER and individually until they can learn to be at peace with their problems and they can ALL get along! Hell, I am friends with my exes wife, and my ex is friends with husband, we make it a point to put the kids FIRST...that is how it should ALWAYS be.
Congratulations! I truly commend you on your situation. It's hard enough on kids to have their parents divorce, adding to contentious relationship between mom and dad to their fragile lives is abusive in my opinion. 2 stars to you and your ex (and the new spouses!). I'm sure it hasn't always been a piece of cake, but it's worth it when you see the children being able to have stable and happy lives at both homes.
I Love my Son

United States

#18 Oct 29, 2008
Wendy, please be advised that not all parents (mothers or fathers) are repsonsible parents. My son has a no-show father. It is great that your ex hubby is a good father. A lot of kids are not so lucky. My son is 10 and has never had a relationship that lasts longer than a month. How many times do I let his dad back into his life just to leave him again? Not putting effort into a relationship with his son is my ex hubby's doing not mine. By the way last time my son heard from or saw my ex was February.
KidsFirst

Kalamazoo, MI

#19 Oct 29, 2008
Mental Health professionals will tell you that 50/50 custody is terrible for children. Can you imagine living in that unstable environment where you're constantly moving from one home to another, adjusting to two environments, two sets of rules and expectations, and shuffling your things back and forth constantly? Yes, 50/50 custody might work great for the parents, but shouldn't the child's needs come first?
radell

Brookfield, WI

#20 Oct 29, 2008
"People" don't use amber alerts. Law enforcement issues an amber alert when there is reason to believe the child has been taken by someone unauthorized and is in danger. That would only happen when a parent is involved if the parent had been found unfit. I realize that from time to time the system is wrong, but in this case the safety of the child is the only important thing. This was obviously not an ordinary case of he said/she said and "exes can't work together for the good of the children".

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