Yes I do know both of them very well! I'm pretty sure you don't know them or you would know how good they are. If people want facts they need to meet him and his wife. Then and only then people will have the facts. They are both willing to meet with anyone.
Careful..there are always Wolves in sheep's clothing...How well do you know "them"? Are you talking the past couple of years or more...Do you know their morals, their beliefs, what they stand for and what they will fall for... I do. Do you know truly know, or are you still looking at the sheep..they are not so innocent and very deceiving...trust me, they both play the part well. Stay guarded and Never trust anyone..(straight from the wolf himself!)