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#1 Dec 20, 2008
Does anybody from Posen even post anything on here? C'mon, Posen isn't that quiet of a town.

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#2 Feb 13, 2009
Well I just asked the same question in a Midlo topic, im not sure if anyone from Posen really posts. Just to state fact, despite popular belief and the superficial fact that we are not in the red financially just yet, Posen is just as bad off as Midlothian is and if the current administration under Schupek is reelected our books will be worse than Midlothians are now in 4 years easily. While this board supports Terry Stephens for change in Midlothian, I am promoting Juanita Goodwin and the Posen Together Party for change in Posen.
Hank

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#3 Feb 27, 2009
I don't think any change is needed in posen government. This the best party we have had in town for 20 years. the books are balanced, and no one is stealing money. More new business have opened in the last 5 years than durning any of the past 3 administrations.
Keep Don and his party in office for more progress
in the years to come.

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#4 Feb 27, 2009
Well...I guess we arent looking at the same government then. The books look good because of all the work that Kevin Whitney and George Klotz did from 1997-2003 before Kevin moved and Don took over. The balanced books that everyone at village hall talks about are very deceptive, as they reflect an across the board unwillingness to pay for anything or put any money towards capital improvements in the village. The village employees are severely underpaid, offices are understaffed, and the board is technologically inept. Did you know that there are no computers in the Trustees' offices and that the secretaries and the clerk still use typewriters daily, yet the village spends 30,000 a year on technology updates...where does that money go? We have no village website, and the lines of communication between the village and the residents have been completely closed. Only certain questions are allowed to be asked at the village meeting, most of those are not properly answered, and the village attorney does more talking than the actual board members. There is now the committee meeting and the village meeting on the same night within an hour of each other and 7:00pm village meetings regularly end at 7:20pm. How is information adequately given to residents when no time is allotted and they dont even publicly read new ordinances anymore. Also, as to the new businesses comment, all of these strip malls that were constructed are still over half empty, two businesses that did move in have already closed up, and most of the newer businesses in town...of which there are very few, were brought in by Whitney and Klotz, not this current administration. I also find it compelling that former Mayor Whitney has come back to visit town to support Juanita Goodwin and the challenging Posen Together Party, and that our former trustee in charge of finance George Klotz, who together with Whitney rescued our town from the throes of bankruptcy after Adamek has chosen to run for Trustee on the Posen Together Party ticket. The current administration outside of Juanita has no vision, is technologically and fiscally inept, is lauding accomplishments and work done by the Whitney administration as its own, and does not represent progress but stagnation and coming decline. We are not that far away from being as bad off as midlothian without new and sound financial management. The Posen Together Party is representing open, accessible government, resident involvement, and economic buildup, the current administration's Continued Progress Party is a sham that will ruin our town if given another four years to do so. Trust me, looking beyond the surface shows how truly inept the village board has become since 2005. Juanita Goodwin sees this and knows it needs to change, thats why she gave up her spot on their ticket to bring together a competent set of candidates committed to improving our town and who wont settle for the status quo.

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#5 Feb 27, 2009
Also, it was Whitney and Klotz who got us Walgreens, and who set up the first Dunkin Donuts deal, which was only finalized by Schupek. Without these two businesses our town would already be worse off than Midlo so we can thank Whitney and Klotz for the likely 4 million plus in yearly tax revenue we get from those for this current board to mismanage.
Push for Progress

Skokie, IL

#6 Mar 3, 2009
I guess Certified Audits by the Audit firm that Whitney and Klotz used that are still being used today are lying about the financial condition of the Village?? I pay my water bill monthly and from the window I see all the secretaries using computers, in fact there are computer cash registers at each window. As far as Village meetings...most other communities that I have checked all do thier meetings on the same day as well...this is not unheard of... just because Whitney didn't do it doesn't make it wrong!!! Trustees have a responsibility to know what is going on...that's their job!!! Seems like all the other Trustees know whats happening...could Goodwin be the "smartest" one in the bunch...I doubt it!!!

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#7 Mar 3, 2009
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I have always beleived that and will continue to do so. However, I am in disagreement with you about several points. First of all, I was not saying that the current financial state of Posen as reported by the auditors is incorrect, as it likely is ON PAPER. The fact remains that the finances are mismanaged terribly and we have simply yet to see the on paper impact. Midlothian was much the same way four years ago when Murawski was elected they had yet to see the impact of bad financial management. There is a problem in Posen because I guarantee you George Klotz would not be running against the current administration on the PTP ticket if there wasnt and Kevin Whitney would not be personally apologizing voters for bringing Schupek, Grabowski, and all of them into office if they werent mismanaging this village today. As for the computers in the front office, yes there are computer cash registers but the majority of work by the secretaries is done by trusty typewriter and again, the lack of technology in the Village Hall is staggering, I pay my water bill every month same as you, and I know what I see or I wouldnt write about it. As for the same day meetings an hour between, this is so wrong its unbelievable. Just because it isnt technically illegal doesnt mean it isnt an effort by Schupek and the board to close off resident communication. Yes, Trustees do have a responsibility to know what is going on, but its hard with the same day meetings for them to adequately prepare to effectively communicate to the residents the goings on in the village. This is doubly hard because the so called open forum in village meetings is a sham where residents are either denied their question or do not receive a proper answer when allowed to ask. Their handling of FOIA requests is garbage and they generally show contempt for the residents who ask questions. As for the jab at Juanita, she does know whats going on a lot more than the other trustees and her asking all the questions at the meetings in front of the residents is the only way most of us get any information out of the rest of the board since they wont surrender it when we ask. Juanita is essentially doing all that she is permitted to get us our answers to our questions. She has been largely ostracized by the remainder of the "good ole boys" on the board which is why she is running for Mayor on the open and communicative government platform that this town so desperately needs. In that respect, she is the smartest person on that board because she recognizes that they are there to serve us the residents, not for the title. Whitney and Klotz also thought the way Juanita did which is why we are out of debt today, and is why Klotz is running again and Whitney is supporting the Posen Together Party. Nobody can question the fact that Whitney and Klotz saved our town, and the fact that Whitney is apologizing for bringing in every one of the current board members should speak volumes to you and everyone of how bad they are doing their jobs. Except Juanita who he praises as having the heart, committment, and ability needed to keep Posen afloat. Mark my words, if we get four more years of the current board...on top of subtracting Juanita, we will fall into an abyss worse than what threatens midlothian and with their lack of communication, nobody will know about it until it has already happened. Schupek's Continued Progress Party is continued progress towards oblivion.
Push for Progress

Skokie, IL

#8 Mar 4, 2009
Your right...everyone has an opinion and I respect yours... Maybe if Klotz and Whitney didn't resign thier positions several years ago they would still be there today and we wouldn't have anything to worry about in La La Land!!! But they did RESIGN right??? If they are back again are they gonna walk out when they can't get thier way again!!! THEY WALKED OUT ON EVERY VOTER THAT ELECTED THEM AND NOW THEY WANT BACK!!! Must ask yourself WHY??? And don't give me the crap about how concerned they are for the Village...If they were they would not have left and Whitney wouldn't have moved out of Posen in the middle of his term. As far as computers and typewriters...this is garbage and you know it... Checked for myself today...EACH secretary has a working computer at their desk... each with internet, each with computer programs that handle the day to day operations of the Village. You should stop and inquire more...I did and they were happy to oblige. As far as more technology and Web sites...yes it would be nice to have, but they do function well without it. Last I checked web sites, software, and technology were all available when Whitney and Klotz were there as well...Why didn't they do it if they were so wonderful!!!

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#9 Mar 4, 2009
Alright then I will concede on the secretaries having computers, I checked on that again myself too. Im actually quite happy because you are a lot more pleasant to discuss the town with than many of the others that I have had discussions with and make an effort to stay informed as well. It would be nice to meet more people with those characteristics. However, when Whitney and Klotz left office, they did so for familial reasons. The board position is not like a regular job and Whitney got offered a substantial raise in pay to relocate to Shorewood along with being able to afford a substantially better house and a better school district for his kids. It was a decision made for his family. As for George Klotz, he has said that he believed when he left that the Village was in good shape and in capable hands. Now both of them have professed and realized that an error in judgment was made on their parts as to who they left in charge. While I am speaking a lot about the future as things dont seem too ominous now, they will be in relatively short order. Whitney has come back to lend his support to the Posen Together Party, however he does not want back in as he still lives in Shorewood. Klotz simply recognizes the trouble on the horizon and is trying to get a chance to make up for his mistakes, at least thats how I see it. Overall, the PTP is much better equipped with a diverse background, good ideas, motivation, and ability to improve and guide the town going forward. The current administrations' Continued Progress Party is too content with the status quo and fails to realize how they are setting the village up for catastrophe and stagnation. We need actual progress and community togetherness, not business as usual from Schupek and the CPP. Im just tired of the way things are and I have no faith in the Schupek administration to carry us forward as a community. I have faith in the PTP.

On a divergent note, I would be eager to hear your opinions on the candidates and what they bring to the table, it would make for interesting conversation and maybe there are other Posenites on this site that will join in.
Common Sense

United States

#10 Mar 5, 2009
Schupek's party has experience and loyality. They have worked hard since Kevin left our town. Claims that the current administration have done nothing are wrong. No offense to Kevin I like him, but as far as I'm concerned, Kevin should stay in Shorewood and keep his endorsements with him. Hey, Kevin go to Midlothian and endorse someone for their village mayor.

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#11 Mar 5, 2009
The problem with Schupek's party is that they have no ability to move the village forward. The majority of what anybody on this party can tout as experience occurred due to work done under the Whitney administration. Schupek's party has done nothing of note since his reelection in 2005, and our current high credit rating and comparatively decent status have nothing to do with Schupek. This administration has been content to sit on their laurels since Whitney and Klotz dug us out from the Adamek disaster and rebuilt our finances. If Schupek has "experience and loyalty" and hasnt "done nothing" then why do we have all these empty strip malls, why have a good percentage of the businesses brought in under Schupek already closed down, some less than a week after opening, why do we have an understaffed and underfunded police, fire, and public works department, and why do we have more potholes in our roads and more watermain breaks than any surrounding town, and possibly the entire state of Indiana. Why dont we use our solid finances to actually improve our town like we did under Whitney and bring in a big business like Whitney and Klotz did with Walgreens. Schupek has done nothing of note over four years and it would be unfair to the town to give him another four years of a title.

By the way, your commentary is quite like that of Push for Progress, so I wonder if you are the same person under a roving IP address. Also, you sound a lot like our soon to be illustious ex-mayor Schupek himself. I can only wonder....a little worried perhaps???
Push for Progress

Skokie, IL

#12 Mar 5, 2009
However, when Whitney and Klotz left office, they did so for familial reasons. The board position is not like a regular job and Whitney got offered a substantial raise in pay to relocate to Shorewood along with being able to afford a substantially better house and a better school district for his kids. It was a decision made for his family

Let's be honest hear...Klotz left because things were'nt being done HIS way anymore...When Whitney left he went to work selling insurance which did not require him to move...I am sure there is not a residency requirement to sell insurance. He also tried to hide the fact he moved for several months and resigned only after a resident (who's backing your party) inquired where he was living at a Village meeting... after he blew up and went on a tirade at the meeting he left and resigned a few days later. Get the FACTS!!! Kevin Whitney is the main reason why I would not back this party...so good luck with that endorsement.
Push for Progress

Skokie, IL

#13 Mar 5, 2009
ChangeInPosen wrote:
The problem with Schupek's party is that they have no ability to move the village forward. The majority of what anybody on this party can tout as experience occurred due to work done under the Whitney administration. Schupek's party has done nothing of note since his reelection in 2005, and our current high credit rating and comparatively decent status have nothing to do with Schupek. This administration has been content to sit on their laurels since Whitney and Klotz dug us out from the Adamek disaster and rebuilt our finances. If Schupek has "experience and loyalty" and hasnt "done nothing" then why do we have all these empty strip malls, why have a good percentage of the businesses brought in under Schupek already closed down, some less than a week after opening, why do we have an understaffed and underfunded police, fire, and public works department, and why do we have more potholes in our roads and more watermain breaks than any surrounding town, and possibly the entire state of Indiana. Why dont we use our solid finances to actually improve our town like we did under Whitney and bring in a big business like Whitney and Klotz did with Walgreens. Schupek has done nothing of note over four years and it would be unfair to the town to give him another four years of a title.
By the way, your commentary is quite like that of Push for Progress, so I wonder if you are the same person under a roving IP address. Also, you sound a lot like our soon to be illustious ex-mayor Schupek himself. I can only wonder....a little worried perhaps???
Whitney and Klotz have been gone for over 6 years now, again I agree that they did alot to get Posen out of the hole when they took office, but they left over 6 years ago already.

You have also talked about the "empty" strip malls that have been developed over the last 3 years... I went and checked this out myself and perhaps you need lessons in counting. 4 strip malls have been developed. 148th and Kedzie there are 2 strip malls. The north strip has 4 store fronts- all occupied, the south strip is more then 50% occupied. 147th and Sacramento 6 storefronts-4 occupied, 147th and California 4 storefronts- 2 are occupied, 1 is being moved into today, 1- unoocupied, 148th and Western, 4 storefronts are all occupied. In these economic times thats an outstanding accomplishment!!! The Marathon Gas station at 147th and Whipple was a large development in the last 3 years along with Dunkin Donuts...the lines there in the morning are unreal..THATS ALL TAX DOLLARS COMING IN BUDDY!!! Whitney had one big development...Walgreens, but many towns around us have learned you can't put all your eggs in one basket. Multiple smallers developments provide more financial stability and sales tax income to the Village just as Walgreens does. Sure would be nice to get another large developer to take the rest of 148th and Western. Unfortunately, Whitney and Klotz sold all that property for $150k and the person they sold it to...a former State Senator that Whitney tried to schmooze screwed the Village and now wants over $2 million for the property...What a deal!!! Last...I speak for myself, I only sign on under this name If you can't take criticism then your not debateing your opinions...I work for a living and only check this once a day so my response to longer for you to see...but the person signed under "common sense" is someone else for you to debate. Get FACTS though before you come back

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#14 Mar 5, 2009
Okay, lot to respond to. First of all, the businesses. Strip malls, 148th and Kedzie has Sharks, Steak and Bake(constantly shutting down and reopening, like third new owner), Curves(are they even still open), and the new 89 cent store, which im happy to see after it was empty for 2 years. Still 2 empty stores. 147th and Sacramento, Illinois Vehicle(did they even open?), Isabella/supermarket(one business altogether in two stores) and thats it. The clothing and video stores closed down right after opening and the store on the end is still empty. 147th and California you have El Pollo and the Healthy People(pretty sure its closed down too, possibly never opened), just curious, what else is moving in that you saw? On Western we have T Mobile, new Subway( I will give Schupek props for this one), and a second Dunkin Donuts,WOW!!!, because for the second time a codeal with Baskin Robbins fell through. So all in all I count eight either empty storefronts or businesses with less than a three month lifespan. Also, the Dunkin Donuts, although constructed and opened while Schupek was in office, was acquisitioned during Whitney's administration. Also, the Marathon is not new tax money, it simply changed owners and name(Clark to Marathon), and was remodeled to include the shop and car wash, same tax money as before, leaving total added tax money by Schupek at a relatively small amount.

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#15 Mar 5, 2009
Okay, now on to the other piece here. First of all, I will double check once again, but the land sold to O'Malley was I am positive not sold by Whitney and this problem predates him to either Adamek or Dohl, but I cant remember which one. Also, there was litigation on this that Posen had a probable outcome of victory to get the land back since O'Malley did not abide by terms set forth by the county when this property became available for village dispersal, yet Schupek came in to office and stopped the lawsuit, and thus our chances of regaining the property, citing a bogus and vague reason, eminent domain I believe, that was invalid. Also, Whitney moved to the center of his client base, and because he got a hell of a deal on a house, and made no effort to hide his having moved. He was already in process of transitioning and resignation when the question was broached at the meeting and several people knew already. This alleged tirade was at a subsequent malicious intent allegation, and his resignation a few days later would have occurred regardless of whether the question had been brought up or not. As for Klotz, he did not leave due to not getting his own way, rather he felt there were people capable of guiding the village and he wanted to spend more time with his family. Also, and this was in the papers, Klotz was first in line to be, and was offerred the mayoral position but turned it down for the above stated reasons, so he could have been in charge but had misplaced faith in Schupek.

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#16 Mar 5, 2009
On another note, I appreciate being able to debate fellow Posenites, and apologize for thinking you to be writing under two names. I am a fan of criticism actually, and I do and will back up my opinions and statements with facts. Also, PTP is not my party, rather the party I support as I am an independent voter and candidate in my own right. I am writing on this blog and supporting PTP because I recognize that Schupek and his party mates have been inadequate leadership over the past 4-6 years and do not represent the "Continued Progress" that they claim to, rather just four more years of sitting on their laurels while the Southland deteriorates and continuing to close off government to its residents. PTP advocates open government and citizen involvement and will never refuse a question at a meeting or let the village attorney speak for them like Schupek does...if you've been to a meeting lately you've seen it too. I will be at the next meeting and plan on challenging the board with actual questions and refusing to sit quietly unless they are answered as is my right as a citizen. Also, I will not tolerate an answer from the village attorney as it is a village board member's job as a public servant to answer the questions from the public, something that Schupek and the CPP completely disregard.
Common Sense

United States

#17 Mar 6, 2009
ChangeInPosen wrote:
The problem with Schupek's party is that they have no ability to move the village forward. The majority of what anybody on this party can tout as experience occurred due to work done under the Whitney administration. Schupek's party has done nothing of note since his reelection in 2005, and our current high credit rating and comparatively decent status have nothing to do with Schupek. This administration has been content to sit on their laurels since Whitney and Klotz dug us out from the Adamek disaster and rebuilt our finances. If Schupek has "experience and loyalty" and hasnt "done nothing" then why do we have all these empty strip malls, why have a good percentage of the businesses brought in under Schupek already closed down, some less than a week after opening, why do we have an understaffed and underfunded police, fire, and public works department, and why do we have more potholes in our roads and more watermain breaks than any surrounding town, and possibly the entire state of Indiana. Why dont we use our solid finances to actually improve our town like we did under Whitney and bring in a big business like Whitney and Klotz did with Walgreens. Schupek has done nothing of note over four years and it would be unfair to the town to give him another four years of a title.
By the way, your commentary is quite like that of Push for Progress, so I wonder if you are the same person under a roving IP address. Also, you sound a lot like our soon to be illustious ex-mayor Schupek himself. I can only wonder....a little worried perhaps???
I wonder if you might be getting a little worried...a little paranoid??? I am not the present mayor or "soon to be re-elected mayor". I post under only one screen name. Maybe all those election signs are misleading. Remember the last election...lots of signs from another person running for mayor..what was his name...David?? Not everyone shares your OPINIONS. You insult the new business in our town by not recognizing them...Sharks, the 2nd Dunkin Donuts, Mobile one, new Subway, El Pollo, Isabelas, etc. These new businesses were a direct result of the present Mayor and trustees. Why don't you get over the Whitney thing...he is gone..lots of work has been done in the last 6 years.

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#18 Mar 6, 2009
If you took the time to read my latest posts, I listed the names of all the new businesses in the strip malls, so so much for me insulting without recognizing them because I do. I am happy for them to be here, all im saying is that we have too many empty spaces to keep building all these new malls without filling the ones we have first. It brings a negative image to the town to have so many brand new storefronts sitting empty. Also, as in my previous post when I apologized to Push for Progress, I apologize for making assumptions about your identity and that you two were the same person, as clearly with this last post I can tell you two are not the same person. Also, as for getting over Whitney, I am aware that he is gone from office now, but I will also continue to be aware of and what in this town is his doing and what is Schupek's doing. I do recognize that yes businesses have opened in town under Schupek, I wont deny that, but I will also point out the bad under Schupek and there is quite a bit of it, starting with the way his board treats and regards the residents of this town as insignificant. The last mayoral election it was Daniel Flores who ran as a write in candidate and there were maybe eight signs total out for him, I know because I go around town and look at signs every election. He got like 20 write in votes. Essentially Schupek's party was unopposed last election because he had only been in office like sixteen months and there were still many good feelings towards them in the town due to the fact that the previous six years they had been on the board under Whitney which dug us out of debt. There are many PTP signs around Posen, PTP is and will be going door to door and sending out mailings, had a very large crowd at their fundraiser, and has a very large support base in the community. No not everyone shares my OPINIONS, but not everyone shares your OPINIONS either, and based on what ive seen around town from a wide range of voter bases, the Hispanic, Asian, African American, young White, and most of the young voters are leaning heavily towards PTP. The only group leaning toward Schupek is the older White residents, and even they are more split now than usual. Also, why hasnt Schupek posted signs, other than the one by village hall, why were a third of the guests at his fundraiser from out of Posen (I know this for a fact because I attended that fundraiser), and why were there hardly any Mexican, young, or African American voters there? They are the majority of the voter base in this town...makes sense for Schupek to at least try to get them. So no Im not paranoid at all, im simply stating opinion and analysis made from "COMMON SENSE" observations and truths from this community. I have facts and many similar viewpoints from other residents to back me up. But still, I again apologize for the assumption of identity, but please read all of my posts as I did name all of these businesses and as a resident I am glad to have them, but at the end of the day the present administration has done not nearly enough to warrant reelection, and that may be my OPINION, but the sentiments around town and at the village meetings show mine to be in the majority of the voting residents Mr or Mrs/Ms Common Sense.
Whats the Real truth

Blue Island, IL

#19 Mar 6, 2009
Is every one blind!!!! Everyone has opinions, true enough, but Mayor Schupek, and his party have done remarkable work in this town. He has business booming in town, more then I ever thought would happen here. What town is'nt short staff with police. He has lived and loved this town as much as any one, who has lived here as long as he has, He has given Posen a heart again. I would like to ask Juanita Goodman, one question, HEY JUANITA FALL OFF ANY BAR STOOLS LATELY!!!!! yea Posen is a small town, I would like to know who on that "together Party" what qualification does any one have to run a town???? Well we at least know the bars will be booming with Juanita as Mayor.
Who Cares

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#20 Mar 6, 2009
Make damn sure they have their green cards first!

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