Va DMV bars immigrants' papers for driver licenses - wtvr

There are 12 comments on the WTVR story from Sep 7, 2010, titled Va DMV bars immigrants' papers for driver licenses - wtvr. In it, WTVR reports that:

Virginia's Department of Motor Vehicles is no longer accepting a federal document issued to immigrants as proof of residence for obtaining a driver's license.

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JamieS

Fisherville, KY

#1 Sep 7, 2010
This is just political BS. Because one immigrant driver (who should have had his license suspended for D&D in the first place) caused an accident, now ALL immigrants can only drive if they become Permanent Residents or US citizens?? I mean, come on! Why didn't this horrible accident cause the VA gov't to actually enforce stricter D&D laws, instead of just focusing on the fact that this guy was an immigrant? Does the VA gov't think that only immigrants drive drunk and kill people?!? Does the VA gov't not understand that people in the US on some visas can never gain PR status or become citizens? And these people are productive members of our society! I just don't have enough words to describe this stupid maneuver by the VA gov't.

Since: Feb 10

Richmond, VA

#2 Sep 7, 2010
"A federal document that immigrants use to prove they are legal U.S. residents is not longer good enough to get a Virginia driver's license."

"The governor acted after a 23-year-old Bolivian national with drunken driving convictions in 2007 and 2008 was involved in a crash that killed a nun and injured two others in her order in Prince William County. Police say Carlos Martinelly Montano was drunk at the time.

Montano had used the form to get a Virginia ID card even though he faced deportation proceedings, authorities say."

This is a step in the right direction in dealing with Illegal Aliens. Late, yes. But it is a start.
va_brit

Manassas, VA

#3 Sep 28, 2010
va_tazdad, if you understood what is involved in the immigration process to become a LEGAL alien in the US, you would know that this step by the governor is ridiculous, pointless, completely mis-informed and totally knee-jerk. It will do absolutely nothing to prevent a similar incident from happening again. The only thing it will do is make it more difficult, if not impossible in some cases, for legal aliens (ie those issued valid work visas by the federal government) to get a drivers licence so they can go about their business in a law abiding manner. This stupid action by the governor is only going to result in LEGAL aliens having to resort to taking chances by driving without a licence when the Commonwealth of VA will not issue them one due to the stupid directive.

It'll be interesting to see what problems I run into in a couple of years time when I have to renew my licence. Hopefully they will have realised how stupid this whole debacle is by then!

Since: Feb 10

Richmond, VA

#4 Sep 29, 2010
va_brit wrote:
va_tazdad, if you understood what is involved in the immigration process to become a LEGAL alien in the US, you would know that this step by the governor is ridiculous, pointless, completely mis-informed and totally knee-jerk. It will do absolutely nothing to prevent a similar incident from happening again. The only thing it will do is make it more difficult, if not impossible in some cases, for legal aliens (ie those issued valid work visas by the federal government) to get a drivers licence so they can go about their business in a law abiding manner. This stupid action by the governor is only going to result in LEGAL aliens having to resort to taking chances by driving without a licence when the Commonwealth of VA will not issue them one due to the stupid directive.
It'll be interesting to see what problems I run into in a couple of years time when I have to renew my licence. Hopefully they will have realised how stupid this whole debacle is by then!
Let the "legal" immigrants provide the same paperwork required of US citizens to receive a driver's license.

A piece of paper issued by the federal government saying they are allowed to work until their deportation trial for illegal entry does not quite seem to me to be the same as required of citizens and does not make them here legally.

Illegal aliens, the correct term, have no rights as they are criminals by virtue of entering the country illegally.
Elroy

Richmond, VA

#5 Sep 30, 2010
JamieS wrote:
This is just political BS. Because one immigrant driver (who should have had his license suspended for D&D in the first place) caused an accident, now ALL immigrants can only drive if they become Permanent Residents or US citizens?? I mean, come on! Why didn't this horrible accident cause the VA gov't to actually enforce stricter D&D laws, instead of just focusing on the fact that this guy was an immigrant? Does the VA gov't think that only immigrants drive drunk and kill people?!? Does the VA gov't not understand that people in the US on some visas can never gain PR status or become citizens? And these people are productive members of our society! I just don't have enough words to describe this stupid maneuver by the VA gov't.
go back home.preach that crap there.your a drain on America.
Non sense by VA Gov

Roanoke, VA

#6 Oct 8, 2010
As is evident from many posts here, most of the american citizens are illiterate. They don't understand the difference between a LEGAL immigrant and ILLEGAL immigrant. It is ridiculous such an ignorant governor is ruling the state of VA.

What do you do if a citizen is involved in such an accident ? Will the governor declare that US birth certificate is not valid document for legal presence ?

The issue here is a drunk driver. Drunk driver can be anyone. It can be a citizen, legal resident, legal alien or even an illegal alien. Immigration status has nothing to do with felony.

Going by governor's logic there wouldn't be any citizens in american jails. Why ? As per his naive sense of governance only immigrant commit crime. Citizens cannot commit crime.

What a dumb action ?
Sorry to say I am shocked to see how illiterate some americans are.

Since: Feb 10

Midlothian, VA

#7 Oct 9, 2010
Non sense by VA Gov wrote:
As is evident from many posts here, most of the american citizens are illiterate. They don't understand the difference between a LEGAL immigrant and ILLEGAL immigrant. It is ridiculous such an ignorant governor is ruling the state of VA.
What do you do if a citizen is involved in such an accident ? Will the governor declare that US birth certificate is not valid document for legal presence ?
The issue here is a drunk driver. Drunk driver can be anyone. It can be a citizen, legal resident, legal alien or even an illegal alien. Immigration status has nothing to do with felony.
Going by governor's logic there wouldn't be any citizens in american jails. Why ? As per his naive sense of governance only immigrant commit crime. Citizens cannot commit crime.
What a dumb action ?
Sorry to say I am shocked to see how illiterate some americans are.
Your reading comprehension seems to be in question and your logic abilities are non-existent.

The point you missed is that he IS an Illegal Alien, he wouldn't have a drivers license if the federal government had done their job, and this action will prevent future Illegal Aliens from getting a state license.

McDonnell doesn't rule, he governs. Monarchs rule. McDonnell was elected, not crowned.

Big differences.
Big Bad Obama

Chino Hills, CA

#8 Sep 28, 2012
JamieS wrote:
This is just political BS. Because one immigrant driver (who should have had his license suspended for D&D in the first place) caused an accident, now ALL immigrants can only drive if they become Permanent Residents or US citizens?? I mean, come on! Why didn't this horrible accident cause the VA gov't to actually enforce stricter D&D laws, instead of just focusing on the fact that this guy was an immigrant? Does the VA gov't think that only immigrants drive drunk and kill people?!? Does the VA gov't not understand that people in the US on some visas can never gain PR status or become citizens? And these people are productive members of our society! I just don't have enough words to describe this stupid maneuver by the VA gov't.
And these people are unproductive welfare leaching members of our society that like to get drunk and kill people. Sit down social parasite !
abe

AOL

#9 Nov 14, 2012
Whatttttttt, would you pick cotton and berries and apples, they are hard working not speaking for anyone here, let them fix your roof and it will cost you less, ok they drink maybe that is their only social problem
common sense

Alpena, MI

#10 Nov 15, 2012
illogical to assume that if one does not have a DL then they wont drive, how naive. logically if one would drive drunk with a DL then why the hell wouldnt one without a DL do the same. immigration status says nothing to what a person would or wouldnt do.....unless of course you believe in fools logic.
NativeAmerican

Elizabeth, NJ

#11 Feb 14, 2013
Elroy wrote:
<quoted text>go back home.preach that crap there.your a drain on America.
You ignorant piece of crap talking about going home....AMERICA IS NOT EVEN YOUR HOME you're just a lucky bastard whose ancestor came here illegally and made their life here which is the same things that these immigrants are doing you ignorant bastard!
NativeAmerican

Arlington, VA

#12 Feb 14, 2013
Big Bad Obama wrote:
<quoted text>
And these people are unproductive welfare leaching members of our society that like to get drunk and kill people. Sit down social parasite !
Oh so you think these people are the only ones leaching on welfare...you swear there aren't some Americans doing it also be smart buddy know your things please don't be another ignorant racist American thank you

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