Firefighter cleared of abuse charges

PORTSMOUTH, Va. Where does Willie Thomas Wilder Jr., 42, go to get his good name back? A jury cleared him of wrongdoing Tuesday. Full Story
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Slick

Chesapeake, VA

#1 Oct 1, 2008
He should get his job back, or he should be given back pay and the chance to retire with full benefits.
President IAFF 2498

AOL

#2 Oct 1, 2008
Welcome to Virginia (a Right to Work State)..what that means is the right to work with Limited or in some cases No Workers Rights. Employeers can "Fire Without Cause" a Law in Virginia..So this comes as no surprise that one of our Brothers, A Fire Fighter is treated no better than an animal. Thrown to the curb after 20 years of risking his life for the citizens of Virginia. The City played Judge and Jury...I hope the Brother has a good lawyer and if he is a union member he has the best with the IAFF. I hope the citizens hold the city elected officials responsable for any settlement the Fire Fighters has the RIGHT TO. We would never allow this kind of criminal act against a Union Fire Fighter here in York County and Williamsburg without a court battle.
Don Dinse, President
York County & Williamsburg Professional Fire Fighters IAFF Local 2498.
Tim

United States

#3 Oct 2, 2008
I'm in full agreement that Mr. Wilder should get his job back and be conpensated for his year of lost wages during his trail.
Connie

Norfolk, VA

#4 Oct 2, 2008
I am keeping my fingers crossed that Mr. Wilder is a union member!!!

Good luck and our prayers are with you Mr. Wilder!
Newell Whitehead - Chief

Portsmouth, VA

#5 Oct 2, 2008
You asked the question "Where does Willie Wilder go to get his good name back"?
I have a question for WAVY-TV.
Who did the most harm to Willie Wilder's good name? The Fire Department who terminated his employment or the news media who plastered his name and face all over the screen when he was first charged with the crime. Is it fair for the media to smear this persons good name based on allegations only? You folks in the media do that everyday. Once you have put his face and name all over the tv screen the public assumes he is guilty and his reputation is forever ruined. I have another question for you. How many guilty people are acquitted in a court of law and how many innocent people are found guilty?
WAVY-TV ruined Willie Wilder's good name the day he was arrested not the City of Portsmouth or the Fire Department.
It is a shame that the local media have become more interested in creating news than reporting news. Maybe WAVY-TV 10 should change it's name to The WAVY Enquirer. The double standard that Andy Fox speaks of is at WAVY-TV not at the Portsmouth Fire Department. You folks pick and choose who you want to do a hatchet job on. I as Fire Chief do not have that luxury. I have to base my decisions on facts and then I have to act on those facts. Of course I know that facts are not as important in a story as sensationalism. Shame on you WAVY-TV. Look in the mirror and ask yourself how you can sleep at night.
Afraid of the WAVY NAZIS

Hampton, VA

#6 Oct 2, 2008
I too would like to back up the Chief, I am a resident of Portsmouth and FRIEND OF someone WAVY has done a hatchet job on, the drunk Andy Fox is still reporting and I say we go to his house and knock on his door and ask his neighbors about him.
A Mother of A Victem

Portsmouth, VA

#7 Oct 2, 2008
I to think that this is an outrage. I have heard of so many people get off by a jury it really does not mean anything to me . I think that Willie Wilder should not get his job back and nothing of a reputation. To me he is nothing but a skum ,that got off and is snowballing all of the people behind him!
I would like you, to ask yourself just one simple question. Would you let Willie Wilder babysit you daughter ? the answer should be no because I feel he done this crime and there isnt any one who can change my mind no JURY especially. Who is a jury ? I dont know any of those people do you!!!!!!!! what gives them the right, but the law.The law also gives Willie wilder all the rights in the world! the Victem has none. We have a poor 7 year old chid that, I am sure has been through hell and who is to say it will never end with this outcome ! I belive that willie wilder got a thrill on getting off on this and it only makes him stronger for the next victem!!!!!!!!! I wish there were more than just that strong 7 year old that could stand up and tell how evil this willie wilder really is .
from a mother thats
been through
the same thing!
I feel for that poor family, and I hope that everybody feels good w/ what thay have done, let another one on the streets!
I hope if he does get his job back I dont have a fire @ my house because I dont want that Willie wilder to save me or my family I would rather die!!!!!!!!!!
A Mother of A Victem

Portsmouth, VA

#8 Oct 2, 2008
President IAFF 2498 wrote:
Welcome to Virginia (a Right to Work State)..what that means is the right to work with Limited or in some cases No Workers Rights. Employeers can "Fire Without Cause" a Law in Virginia..So this comes as no surprise that one of our Brothers, A Fire Fighter is treated no better than an animal. Thrown to the curb after 20 years of risking his life for the citizens of Virginia. The City played Judge and Jury...I hope the Brother has a good lawyer and if he is a union member he has the best with the IAFF. I hope the citizens hold the city elected officials responsable for any settlement the Fire Fighters has the RIGHT TO. We would never allow this kind of criminal act against a Union Fire Fighter here in York County and Williamsburg without a court battle.
Don Dinse, President
York County & Williamsburg Professional Fire Fighters IAFF Local 2498.
I would like to ask you if you know mr. wilder personally? I think not do you sleep w/ him @ night? I guess you dont belive in chidern also !!!!!!!!!! But this firefighter is so great to you I laugh @ you because you are no better!
Portsmouth resident

Norfolk, VA

#9 Oct 2, 2008
President IAFF 2498 wrote:
Welcome to Virginia (a Right to Work State)..what that means is the right to work with Limited or in some cases No Workers Rights. Employeers can "Fire Without Cause" a Law in Virginia..So this comes as no surprise that one of our Brothers, A Fire Fighter is treated no better than an animal. Thrown to the curb after 20 years of risking his life for the citizens of Virginia. The City played Judge and Jury...I hope the Brother has a good lawyer and if he is a union member he has the best with the IAFF. I hope the citizens hold the city elected officials responsable for any settlement the Fire Fighters has the RIGHT TO. We would never allow this kind of criminal act against a Union Fire Fighter here in York County and Williamsburg without a court battle.
Don Dinse, President
York County & Williamsburg Professional Fire Fighters IAFF Local 2498.
You call him a brother, you probaly think it's ok to sexually abuse children. I hope to god you don't have any children!!!!
Portsmouth resident

Norfolk, VA

#10 Oct 2, 2008
I would like to hear what Andy Fox would have to say if he took the time to meet and hear from the victim and the victim's family. Then he could comment about getting his good name back!!!! What do you think Mr. Fox?
Try This

Newport News, VA

#11 Oct 2, 2008
Coalition for Justice for Civil Rights
Unfair

Newport News, VA

#12 Oct 2, 2008
Virginia needs to do away with their employment at will laws. This is merely to support the good ole' boy system and creates a state of injustice to abuse peoples rights. It is a breeding ground for evil people to cause trouble for coworkers and many times they are successful at ruining a good persons reputation and having a coworker fired based on malicious gossip. This remains on a persons record and then others use it for future unfairness. He/She has has problems before.... blah, blah, blah... I have been a victim of having my career and reputation destroyed by someone that wanted to get even with me for coming forward with information that she was mistreating children in a school setting. It has been over 10 years and this woman and her friends have spread vicious rumors that I mistreated students. Employers don't care that it is not true and have been able to verify that, they don't want someone around with that being said. I hope Mr. Wilder is about to make a new life for himself, but it won't be easy as once it's "out there" it's a nightmare. I hope they will continue to look for the guilty man so he doesn't get away with this and hurt more children.
President IAFF 2498 wrote:
Welcome to Virginia (a Right to Work State)..what that means is the right to work with Limited or in some cases No Workers Rights. Employeers can "Fire Without Cause" a Law in Virginia..So this comes as no surprise that one of our Brothers, A Fire Fighter is treated no better than an animal. Thrown to the curb after 20 years of risking his life for the citizens of Virginia. The City played Judge and Jury...I hope the Brother has a good lawyer and if he is a union member he has the best with the IAFF. I hope the citizens hold the city elected officials responsable for any settlement the Fire Fighters has the RIGHT TO. We would never allow this kind of criminal act against a Union Fire Fighter here in York County and Williamsburg without a court battle.
Don Dinse, President
York County & Williamsburg Professional Fire Fighters IAFF Local 2498.
A Mother of A Victem

Portsmouth, VA

#13 Oct 2, 2008
Unfair wrote:
Virginia needs to do away with their employment at will laws. This is merely to support the good ole' boy system and creates a state of injustice to abuse peoples rights. It is a breeding ground for evil people to cause trouble for coworkers and many times they are successful at ruining a good persons reputation and having a coworker fired based on malicious gossip. This remains on a persons record and then others use it for future unfairness. He/She has has problems before.... blah, blah, blah... I have been a victim of having my career and reputation destroyed by someone that wanted to get even with me for coming forward with information that she was mistreating children in a school setting. It has been over 10 years and this woman and her friends have spread vicious rumors that I mistreated students. Employers don't care that it is not true and have been able to verify that, they don't want someone around with that being said. I hope Mr. Wilder is about to make a new life for himself, but it won't be easy as once it's "out there" it's a nightmare. I hope they will continue to look for the guilty man so he doesn't get away with this and hurt more children.
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This man did it! There is no other. He is walking free, and when he gets caught with say maybe your child. I will feel for your child because it is people like you that think it is ok for willie wilder or other people like him to get by with it all because of what a jury says that dont mean shit!(not guilty) when a poor 7 year yes 7 yr old just stands up and says he did it mommy thats a crock of shit you all are, that say he is not guilty GOD knows he did it and he will pay dearly!!!!!!!!! I cant wait for the day!!!!!!!
A Mother of A Victem

Portsmouth, VA

#14 Oct 2, 2008
Connie wrote:
I am keeping my fingers crossed that Mr. Wilder is a union member!!!
Good luck and our prayers are with you Mr. Wilder!
oh yea he his a union member that dont desrve nothing in my book !!!!!!!!! he is a real slick guy!
A Mother of A Victem

Portsmouth, VA

#15 Oct 2, 2008
Tim wrote:
I'm in full agreement that Mr. Wilder should get his job back and be conpensated for his year of lost wages during his trail.
I pray for the poor family that has to tell there poor daughter that he is free and everything you were told is a bunch of bull crap! No justice what so ever!
Mom of Five

Suffolk, VA

#16 Oct 2, 2008
A Mother of A Victem wrote:
<quoted text>I pray for the poor family that has to tell there poor daughter that he is free and everything you were told is a bunch of bull crap! No justice what so ever!
Just because someone is accused of a crime does not mean they committed that crime. Anyone can go down to the city, file a warrent and have a person arrested. It is possible that something happened to that little girl in the past and maybe she is reliving it- maybe the family should investigate that a little further. Mr Wilder has 2 daughters who testified on his behalf. Why, after 42yrs, would he decide to molest a child. Im sure his daughters were questioned by the police and social services. There are many people sitting in jail, accused falsely of things like this EVEN when the child recants.
Tammy

Virginia Beach, VA

#17 Oct 2, 2008
You all make me sick!! His name, his reputation, his job!- What about the seven year old little girl - who I am certain has lived the worst last year of her life. Do you know her? Do you know what she has been through while all of this is going on?? No you don't and if you did - you would know this sick, disgusting, sorry excuse of a human being, was lucky enough to have this particular jury! All I can say - he knew what he was doing when he went for a jury trial versus a trial by judge!! Common Sense would put him away forever! VICTIMS RIGHTS - BS!!!!!
A Mother of A Victem

Portsmouth, VA

#18 Oct 2, 2008
Mom of Five wrote:
<quoted text>Just because someone is accused of a crime does not mean they committed that crime. Anyone can go down to the city, file a warrent and have a person arrested. It is possible that something happened to that little girl in the past and maybe she is reliving it- maybe the family should investigate that a little further. Mr Wilder has 2 daughters who testified on his behalf. Why, after 42yrs, would he decide to molest a child. Im sure his daughters were questioned by the police and social services. There are many people sitting in jail, accused falsely of things like this EVEN when the child recants.
I have two children of my own and I know that his poor daughters had to go through this and I feel for them, but it happens everyday and he is a man that is slick, I guess because he did it, and got caught and the child didnt wake up one day and say I pick him. You say you have kids well then I feel for them! I guess if a 42 year old man molested your child you would say he has never been in trouble so he didnt do it ! what a bunch of crock there are men everyday that get caught when thay are older thay were just slick until then!! That child is a young child and willie wilder from what I heard was a great feiend and she wanted to hurt the one that was close to her I guess you are all in some demented state!!!!!!!
A Mother of A Victem

Portsmouth, VA

#19 Oct 2, 2008
Tammy wrote:
You all make me sick!! His name, his reputation, his job!- What about the seven year old little girl - who I am certain has lived the worst last year of her life. Do you know her? Do you know what she has been through while all of this is going on?? No you don't and if you did - you would know this sick, disgusting, sorry excuse of a human being, was lucky enough to have this particular jury! All I can say - he knew what he was doing when he went for a jury trial versus a trial by judge!! Common Sense would put him away forever! VICTIMS RIGHTS - BS!!!!!
Thank you! finally some one with sence!!!!
Mom of Five

Suffolk, VA

#20 Oct 2, 2008
A Mother of A Victem wrote:
<quoted text>I have two children of my own and I know that his poor daughters had to go through this and I feel for them, but it happens everyday and he is a man that is slick, I guess because he did it, and got caught and the child didnt wake up one day and say I pick him. You say you have kids well then I feel for them! I guess if a 42 year old man molested your child you would say he has never been in trouble so he didnt do it ! what a bunch of crock there are men everyday that get caught when thay are older thay were just slick until then!! That child is a young child and willie wilder from what I heard was a great feiend and she wanted to hurt the one that was close to her I guess you are all in some demented state!!!!!!!
So you are saying a child can be violently molested and not even wake up? Maybe the child was dreaming about something that happened to her in the past, someone the mom doesnt suspect.

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