Is martial law the ultimate goal?

Is martial law the ultimate goal?

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Jones

Marion, OH

#1 Feb 1, 2013
With everything happening to this country of ours it is getting harder and harder to maintain a cool head and not jump to conclusions but if we sit back and view the last four years as well as what’s happening now an image is starting to appear of what might possibly be our future.

During President Obama’s first term he laid the ground work. President Obama issued over 144 executive orders, many dealing with martial law. As the Supreme Court already opinioned when looking at President Lincolns use of martial law,“Martial law … destroys every guarantee of the Constitution.”. This means when martial law is declared we as Americans have no rights at all.

During President Obama’s first term he wrote Executive Orders granting the government the power to take over all communications media, electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. He also wrote an Executive Order where the government can take over all modes of transportation and control of the highways and sea ports. That means Obama can confiscate your horse, your donkeys, your bicycle or even your riding lawn mower. All forms of transportation. Executive orders signed by Obama also include railroads, inland water ways, public storage facilities, airports and airplanes including commercial planes can all be taken over by the government.

Think that’s bad, well it gets worse, much worse.

Executive Orders have also been signed allowing the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. To take over all health education and welfare functions. To allow the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations, AND grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

If that doesn’t scare you then look at this. An Executive order has also been signed which allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Jones

Marion, OH

#2 Feb 1, 2013
Now why that last part that congress cannot review the action for six months? To understand why President Obama wanted that executive order lets look at what martial law is. Martial law is the suspension of civil authority and the imposition of military authority. When we say a region or country is “under martial law,” we mean to say that the military is in control of the area, that it acts as the police, as the courts, as the legislature. The president is the commander in chief of the military and as such in full control of the martial law. Seeing how the constitution is suspended during martial law and the President is in control the only ones able to stop martial law is the congress. In effect that Executive order that says Congress cannot review the action for six months in effect give the President full unchallenged control for six months.


A little tidbit to add to martial law here is that our constitution Article 1, Section 9 states,“The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.” The concept of the of Habeas Corpus is that a person may not be held by the government without a valid reason for being held. A writ means the government would have to provide a person to a court to show just reason for holding them. With the suspension of the writ the government can detain and hold a person indefinitely.

In a nut shell a President can declare martial law, would have six months of free reign to do as he pleases while rounding up any congressional opposition to his martial law and detaining them indefinitely and doing this totally legally.

In order for a president to declare martial law he must have a valid reason to do so. For that lets look at our present situation. Today we have a president whom has openly declared war on the second amendment to our constitution. This is causing a great deal of civil unrest in the nation. Being told that their actions are unconstitutional doesn’t slow the President down at all, in fact it emboldens him to push even harder. To top that off our President is also pushing us to the fiscal cliff of ruin. When asked about the out of control spending our President replies that we do not have a spending problem. Top that off with our government printing money as fast as possible as well as demanding unrestricted borrowing powers we can see we will be heading to a financial meltdown very soon. A financial meltdown coupled with civil unrest over constitutional violations would be the catalyst for open revolt and exactly what would be needed in order to openly declare martial law. Then we all are doomed.
Think

New York, NY

#3 Feb 1, 2013
How about some actual references that can be verified?

What are the numbers of these executive orders?

Otherwise, this is all just nonsense.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#4 Feb 1, 2013
Think wrote:
How about some actual references that can be verified?
What are the numbers of these executive orders?
Otherwise, this is all just nonsense.
They will be wacko', far, far right tin foil hat wearer sites. Look at the content of these sites that they get their "truth" from.
StandUP

Zanesville, OH

#5 Feb 1, 2013
Think wrote:
How about some actual references that can be verified?
What are the numbers of these executive orders?
Otherwise, this is all just nonsense.
i dunno.....have you tried google or whitehouse.gov ???

rofl
Iknow

Zanesville, OH

#6 Feb 1, 2013
Think wrote:
How about some actual references that can be verified?
What are the numbers of these executive orders?
Otherwise, this is all just nonsense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_S...

heres your list of executive orders you couldnt be bothered to look up O_o
StandUP

Zanesville, OH

#7 Feb 1, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>They will be wacko', far, far right tin foil hat wearer sites. Look at the content of these sites that they get their "truth" from.
do you like to post trollishness and get them judged badly? if that is goal...then your doing a great job!
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#8 Feb 2, 2013
StandUP wrote:
<quoted text>
do you like to post trollishness and get them judged badly? if that is goal...then your doing a great job!
Only by small brained people like yourself. Even people with half a brain know those sites are nothing but a bunch of crap. Paranoia's not good for your mental health.

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