Final: Keeping both Brocton CS and Westfield ACS OPEN

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Mad Westfield taxpayer

Dunkirk, NY

#1 Apr 24, 2013
What a joke. The BOES of both schoolS should be looking to save money and close one of the school.

This just coming in. Instead what did they do.

Both BOEs voted to keep the Middle school in Westfield open and the High School in Brocton open.

THE MERGER WILL NOT SAVE A DIME! VOTE NO!
Westfield Rez

Dunkirk, NY

#2 Apr 24, 2013
Dumb move!
Westfield Rez

Dunkirk, NY

#3 Apr 24, 2013
Messing with the study is just going to turn voters off.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#4 Apr 25, 2013
Keeping both schools open seems to be the logical step because it allows both schools to continue to function at their best. The Middle School will have the high school resources of Westfield available to them to have a better education and the Brocton school is in significantly better shape with state of the art classrooms to make the high school situation the best for Westfield students at this very moment in time. If for some reason we suddenly get companies that want to be here and the population goes on an upswing and the schools return to their former glory and can make it independently there is still the option to divide the district and resume schools in both towns that are independent as they are now. We might never get that but the option is there as long as we don't do something to "undo it" in the meantime.

From what I can see and what I hear the vote to merge will pass easily because we cannot keep stuffing our heads up our butts about what our kids need to have a successful future and the times are not what they once were in the days when we grew up. It is all about technology and getting college taken care of as much as possible in high school and without having as many college options in one place our kids are not getting these classes taken care of in a way that they can succeed in the same way as their peers.

It is so important to get them what they need for free so that they are not struggling to PAY for college classes they could have credit for in high school. The number of young people that have to go on welfare while attending college is a concern because the more classes they have to take the longer we pay for their welfare costs so consider that you are going to save in that sector the less time they are enrolled in college. The welfare costs of our area are staggering and there are wonderful smart and capable kids that will take advantage of the opportunity to get as much of their college credits taken care of in school and will enjoy the challenge of the classes and the sheer knowledge they will gain. It will help them to know very early on if a career path is suited to them before it is costing their parents and the taxpayers to do that experimentation in the college setting as they are finding out later than it needs to happen that their career plan sounded good but in the end turns out not to suit them or was not as it appeared as they considered their options.

If you give someone every option they will be able to move forward with speed and pursue their career goals and be productive rather than sit on welfare still figuring out what they want or need to do. I would rather pay for my children to get their best shot at college and be fully prepared to know what they are getting into than to have a student that is confused and a long term welfare recipient while they work through their confusion.

I know the merger will save money if not at the school tax level it will save at the welfare office. I care enough about all the children in both districts to want them to have something better in mind for themselves than years on welfare to become who they have the potential to be. Being a recent college graduate I am acutely aware of the number of students receiving welfare to sustain themselves through college. If they can only get a few college credit hours then they are having to make up that by taking welfare and paying tuition to get the rest. If they can get most of their freshman year done in high school as the merger will permit due to adding more college credit hours then it is a year less of welfare benefits to those who need them to survive while in college.

Some of you might be older and totally blind to what is happening with college students and how they survive while they attend college but I hope you look into the issue and see that you will gain in other ways by reduction of county welfare costs even if it is not reflected to your liking in your school tax bill.
Wolf

Dunkirk, NY

#5 Apr 25, 2013
Damitol you have written so many posts in favor of the merger you make me sick. Your postings are filled with false statement after false statement. People have addressed your false comments in numerous other postings. Let me tell you right now the merger will not pass in Westfield. I don't know who you talk to but no one I know is voting for it and I am sure I know alot more people then you.
Mee

Dunkirk, NY

#6 Apr 25, 2013
Is that comment by damitol a joke or what? Who are they talking too? Who can write so much and say so little?

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#7 Apr 26, 2013
Sorry....you all better get out more and I laugh at this point regarding your protests. It seems that you are not part of the clear thinkers pool.
Taxpayer

Dunkirk, NY

#9 Apr 26, 2013
damitol wrote:
Sorry....you all better get out more and I laugh at this point regarding your protests. It seems that you are not part of the clear thinkers pool.
And you are? Just what are your life experiences? Do you own property? Do you pay taxes? Do you employ anyone? Do you own a business? Do you know what its like to pay tens of thousands in business taxes? You better hope there is always someone else there to sign a check for you!
Taxpayer

Dunkirk, NY

#10 Apr 26, 2013
"clear thinkers pool" right! That folks is what the taxpayer gets when they pay for an education for someone who could care less how the taxpayer pays for that education. Hard work and MONEY. Education is not free, yet some folks take it for granted. Face it the taxpayer spends to much for K-12 and trying to fool folks into thinking a merger is going to cut taxes is just that; a fools game.
wow

Westfield, NY

#11 Apr 26, 2013
Heard Brocton said they wanted to "give" Westfield the middle school in order to "sell" the vote.
well

Fredonia, NY

#12 Apr 26, 2013
Disband Brocton and divide the district up between Westfield and Fredonia! Makes the most sense, then the kids get to go to the closer School!
abc

United States

#13 Apr 26, 2013
close them both and send them to CLCS. Ripley has the right plan for now until a central school system is in place they are trying to do the right thing for there students. Westfield has to get over themselves and quit thinking they are better than everyone else and do what is best for the kids education. it may not save a lot of money but it will save some and educate the children better.
you all think that there is no benefit to merge but it is there . I hear the comments that CLCS is money strapped after there merge a few years ago but like all of the schools in our area they have lost enrollment. we need to make a central school district. and CLCS is the best location best facilities and best choice to succeed. I give credit to Ripley for forward thinking and trying something for the town and students.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#14 Apr 29, 2013
Taxpayer wrote:
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And you are? Just what are your life experiences? Do you own property? Do you pay taxes? Do you employ anyone? Do you own a business? Do you know what its like to pay tens of thousands in business taxes? You better hope there is always someone else there to sign a check for you!
Yes, I own my home as I have stated before. I do own a small business and I work outside of the home. I pay my bills and do no collect public assistance. Everything I see tells me my business will succeed and improve for having a school that meets the needs of today's students as what we have now is just a bandaid to keep us afloat and the department of education not crawling down our necks indicating we are deficient. It won't stay that way without a merger. If I am the only one that cares that my children will leave school and enter college with a good well rounded education that will permit them to compete with others in college then so be it.
wth

Westfield, NY

#15 Apr 30, 2013
Brocton's building is NOT in "better shape". It is NOT more functional. This is a sell job.
leo

Orchard Park, NY

#17 Apr 30, 2013
Just wondering why people use other peoples names to post things...just sayin
Taxpayer

Dunkirk, NY

#19 May 1, 2013
damitol wrote:
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Yes, I own my home as I have stated before. I do own a small business and I work outside of the home. I pay my bills and do no collect public assistance. Everything I see tells me my business will succeed and improve for having a school that meets the needs of today's students as what we have now is just a bandaid to keep us afloat and the department of education not crawling down our necks indicating we are deficient. It won't stay that way without a merger. If I am the only one that cares that my children will leave school and enter college with a good well rounded education that will permit them to compete with others in college then so be it.
What kind of small business do you own? How much in business taxes do you pay each year? How many employees do you have?

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#21 May 1, 2013
Taxpayer wrote:
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What kind of small business do you own? How much in business taxes do you pay each year? How many employees do you have?
I prefer to keep details about all of what I do private because all you are doing is fishing for information for whatever reason. I don't need to know what you do outside of the internet and what I have given thus far is more personal information than I intended.

I am so sad that your tone and rage is what it is but we have to move on to the time we live in now and the past is long gone. It is time to catch up to the future because believe it or not our area is way behind the curve in what our kids need to really succeed.
wow

Westfield, NY

#22 May 3, 2013
Can you say busing nightmare??? Has the added cost to bus all of these kids now been taken into consideration ???
Doug Walters

United States

#23 May 3, 2013
Vote YES!!!!!!

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