Brocton, Westfield merger group holds...

Brocton, Westfield merger group holds first meeting

There are 334 comments on the Observer story from Oct 18, 2012, titled Brocton, Westfield merger group holds first meeting. In it, Observer reports that:

The 24 members of the district advisory committee for the feasibility study for centralizing the Brocton and Westfield districts had their first meeting on Thursday in the large group instruction room at the Westfield Academy and Central School.

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bulldog

Dunkirk, NY

#1 Oct 19, 2012
if there is a merger close one of the schools down. it makes no sense to merge and keep both schools open.
Info hound

Mayville, NY

#2 Oct 19, 2012
Except, of course, for the fact that neither school is large enough to house all the students in one building.
Westfield

Dunkirk, NY

#3 Oct 19, 2012
Info hound wrote:
Except, of course, for the fact that neither school is large enough to house all the students in one building.
Back in the early 1970s the Westfield school housed around 125 students per class, this was without the addition they added in the 1990's. So "Info hound" there is plenty of room to house both Westfield (50 kids per class) and Brocton (45 per kids per class) now. Some info hound you are.
Friday

Dunkirk, NY

#4 Oct 20, 2012
Actually, Info hound is right. Many of the rooms have been transformed into special education classrooms (self-contained and resource rooms), computer labs, and related services rooms (speech, PT, OT). The space isn't there. I'm sure the merger study will identify this as a problem. It will come down to which community will be willing to send their high school to the other side? Brocton to Westfield, or Westfield to Brocton?
Jamison

Dunkirk, NY

#5 Oct 20, 2012
Two things will decide this merger vote: where the high school is located and reduced taxes. Nothing else will matter. The community, for years, has heard that "we must do it for the kids." Bupkis. As I have said in previous postings, the kids are well taken care of. This is a matter of taking care of the taxpayers.
Westfield

Dunkirk, NY

#6 Oct 21, 2012
Friday wrote:
Actually, Info hound is right. Many of the rooms have been transformed into special education classrooms (self-contained and resource rooms), computer labs, and related services rooms (speech, PT, OT). The space isn't there. I'm sure the merger study will identify this as a problem. It will come down to which community will be willing to send their high school to the other side? Brocton to Westfield, or Westfield to Brocton?
The rooms your talking about are maybe 5 or 6. Self-contained is the way-side building, its been there since forever. There are 2 computer labs and those could be moved anywhere including the library. PT and OT, well if you had check the OT room is a closet. There is plenty of room at Westfield for both schools. Get a grip. Keeping both schools open is not going to save anything, its just a way of moving stuff around making it look like your trying to fix something. One school or no merger. This is the same crap that was tried with the Westfield-Ripley merger. There is plenty of room at Westfield.
justsayin

United States

#7 Oct 21, 2012
I for one would not want my children in classes with 100 and some kids in it...seriously?!?!...I like the fact that the classes are small...I would think it would be easier to teach/learn in a smaller setting....
Friday

Dunkirk, NY

#8 Oct 21, 2012
If Westfield has so many extra classrooms, why couldn't Ripley have moved all of their classes to Westfield? It was because Ripley wouldn't have approved the merger if they lost their school in their community. The same problem is with Brocton. They just put $13 million into renovating their building. They expect that they will be the new high school. Unless both communities decided to build a new building, a new merger isn't going to happen.
Jamison

Dunkirk, NY

#9 Oct 21, 2012
The building will be the road block. Neither community will relinquish the high school to the other.
Agreed

Dunkirk, NY

#10 Oct 22, 2012
Good points here. If Westfield doesn't have the High School it won't be approved in Westfield. Brocton was dumb to put 13 million into their building. Brocton will be in the same boat Ripley is in before long. At least Westfield has a small business tax base plus nice properties and a nice community, hospital, etc.
oh yea
#11 Oct 22, 2012
westfield will have the high school. but not much more. thats a fact.
Only me

Dunkirk, NY

#12 Oct 23, 2012
Well if you want to compare towns around this area Westfield is in the top 2 along with Fredonia. I mean come on, Ripley, Brocton, Dunkirk, Forestville, Panama, Sherman, Clymer, Stockton etc. Westfield has the most going for it. The High School if not the whole school has to be located in Westfield. Brocton is a joke.
Well Well

United States

#13 Oct 23, 2012
Westfield is FAR FROM the top 2 numbnuts. Get real.
Only me

Dunkirk, NY

#14 Oct 24, 2012
Well what other communities would you want you and your kids to live in (in Chautauqua County)? Westfield is my far better then the districts I listed.
hahaha

United States

#15 Oct 24, 2012
Only me wrote:
Well what other communities would you want you and your kids to live in (in Chautauqua County)? Westfield is my far better then the districts I listed.
Actually Maple Grove, Chautaqua Lake, Southwestern, would ALL BE WAY AHEAD of Westfield.
Only me

Dunkirk, NY

#16 Oct 24, 2012
I said as a community. What does Maple Grove have, some bars in Bemus. And Chautauqua Lake, of course they have the jail. Westfield by far with its Hospital, nice Library, downtown area and lake is great. Have you ever seen the nice properties in Westfield? Very wealthy community.
Wolverine

Westfield, NY

#17 Oct 25, 2012
I am pro-merger and my hope was that arguments over things like building use could be avoided in the beginning of this process. Not that this isn’t an important issue, but what I think is more important is that folks understand the school merger process used in NYS. Very simply there is 1.) a feasibility study conducted / released; 2.) a straw vote to gauge public opinion; and then if the straw vote indicates a good chance of a merger vote being successful 3.) the actual vote (binding referendum) to merge.
When voting, you only vote on whether or not to merge. There are no other contingencies tied to the vote (i.e. close a building, keep both buildings open, put the HS in this building etc.). If the binding referendum is ultimately successful in merging the districts, a new BOE is elected. In the most recent Ripley-Westfield merger attempt, it never even reached the actual vote because the Straw Vote showed the Communities so divided that NYS Ed decided an actual vote was pointless.
What’s ironic, is that the very document required by NYS Ed in the beginning of the process (the feasibility study), is what divided the communities in the first place. That’s because it was totally biased towards keeping both the Ripley and Westfield buildings open. People believed in what was written even though it was purely recommendations.
Merging Brocton-Westfield has the potential to provide quality education for our kids and reduced (or at least stabilized) taxes. The key of course is approving a merger and selecting a new BOE who will manage Incentive Aid wisely and significantly reduce resources.
Wolf

Dunkirk, NY

#18 Oct 26, 2012
Westfield already provides quality education, the problem is it is expensive. If you think the merger is going to reduce taxes you better think again.
DUH

Horseheads, NY

#19 Oct 27, 2012
justsayin wrote:
I for one would not want my children in classes with 100 and some kids in it...seriously?!?!...I like the fact that the classes are small...I would think it would be easier to teach/learn in a smaller setting....
not 150 kids in classroom. 150 in graduating class.
Not Serious

Dunkirk, NY

#20 Oct 28, 2012
This merger stuff is nothing but cheap talk. Westfield will not vote for the merger. They voted down the Ripley-Westfield merger because there was no savings and this Brocton-Westfield merger will be the same. Its just rearranging the system keeping both schools open and having the same expenses. Its a joke and the taxpayers should be mad about the waste of time and money on it. Fact check: you need a serious plan with savings. Putting 16 million into the Brocton school at this point says it all. JOKE!

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